Larger women in ads for Target and Athleta

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What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I am not "body positive" in that I think people should strive to be a healthy weight. But for a variety of reasons, people sometimes aren't able to do that. Maybe they are depressed, or anxious, or just had a baby. So it's good for ads to show all body types so that people can look at the fit of an item on a body similar to theirs.

I guarantee you that AT LEAST 99% of us who are overweight are striving to be a healthy weight. Even those who are "body positive." But I admire women who don't despise themselves despite their inability to maintain a healthy weight.

I admire the people who are striving to be a healthy weight. Especially when it’s difficult because of their circumstances. I also think people should love and respect their bodies. Where the body positivity movement goes wrong, however, is to say there is something wrong with the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy.” I did not make this phrase up. Multiple body positivity bloggers write about it and make it their mission to convince people that it’s ok not to want to lose weight or eat healthy foods or exercise. One blogger is very obese and acts in porn movies as a statement that fat is acceptable and sexy. I don’t think that’s body positive to act in porn or to feed yourself junk food.

So don't do it. Problem solved.

Meanwhile the woman you despise is probably happier, with a better sex life. But you do you, she can do what she likes.

DP. Yes, 'fat is healthy' and 'women in porn have better sex lives' definitely are great messages, especially for teenage girls.

Is there something about far shaming that makes you argue points no one else made, or can you just not read very well?

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Honestly I think she is just stupid. It's too bad but not something she can really fix.

Who is stupid? The DP, or one of the PP’s (which one?) or the obese porn actress body positivity blogger?

The one who identified as DP and went on about teenage girls. The PP is right that the DP can't read. I think she's just stupid.

I’m not DP, but she is referring to the PP who talked about a body positivity blogger who talked about it’s ok to be a “bad fatty” (her words) and that it’s ok to eat whatever you want, ok to stay fat, ok not to exercise, ok to act in porn to prove that fat is sexy. I don’t think those actions are from a mentally and physically healthy person who feels positivity towards her own body.

I know exactly what she was referring too, and I think she is stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Are we supposed to laud those on My 600lb Life? They’re making obviously horrible decisions and also have mental problems that lead them to those situations. Bit I’m not going to so inclusive as to say they should have spandex tough Rs and sports bras. They just don’t need it when they’re working on walking to the bathroom unassisted.

At what point is the slippery slope to that, flattened?

I spend my weekends right now planning my garden and you spend yours constructing straw man arguments.

Come July I’ll have flowers to show for it and you’ll still just have “fat shaming” as your hobby.

Not a straw man. What is the limit of the “body positive” perspective? High BMI is definitely bad. Why is normalizing that a public health benefit?

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JFC, the obese woman on the cover of the Athleta catalog doing yoga is not having trouble walking fo ther bathroom-- nor does she weigh anything close to 600 pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is trying the same thing, but I don't see sales going up really.

I don’t have a lot of skinny friends and we all have been living in leggings since March 2020. The hardest size to find in stock are the XLs.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.

https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/taught-to-be-good-fatty/

This is just one body positivity blogger but every single one has an article on the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy”.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.

https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/taught-to-be-good-fatty/

This is just one body positivity blogger but every single one has an article on the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy”.

Wow, that website is shocking. And, of course, asking for $$ on homepage. These bloggers seriously taking advantage of a vulnerable audience.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.

https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/taught-to-be-good-fatty/

This is just one body positivity blogger but every single one has an article on the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy”.

Wow, that website is shocking. And, of course, asking for $$ on homepage. These bloggers seriously taking advantage of a vulnerable audience.

But you didn’t bother to read the article.

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I do not like it I realize that’s “wrong” but I react poorly to it. It’s ok to have goals and looking good in clothes is important to me whether that’s shallow or not. Overweight people do not look good in clothes.

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I’m all for the transgender or downs modems etc but not overweight. That’s a choice not how you were made. Being overweight is unhealthy and it is a choice and should not be glorified in any way.

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Models*

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Anonymous wrote:I love that people think hiding away fat bodies will solve America’s health concerns.

So, you think "celebrating" fat bodies will solve America's health concerns? Ok.....

Np- how is showing how clothing will fit a larger bodies “celebrating” them?

As a 5’11” woman who wears their tall sizes, I love to opportunity to see how different sizes fit different bodies - especially when they stare the height of the model and size they are wearing. It helps to be an informed shopper.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that people think hiding away fat bodies will solve America’s health concerns.

So, you think "celebrating" fat bodies will solve America's health concerns? Ok.....

Np- how is showing how clothing will fit a larger bodies “celebrating” them?

As a 5’11” woman who wears their tall sizes, I love to opportunity to see how different sizes fit different bodies - especially when they stare the height of the model and size they are wearing. It helps to be an informed shopper.

I do think they need several models. As a small, short female- looking at a model who is 5'11 and wearing a size 16 does nothing for me. I can't even guestimate how it would fit me. The cut would have to be completely different to fit a petite person.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the distinction between “good fatty”
And “bad fatty”? I have never heard of these terms.

https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/04/taught-to-be-good-fatty/

This is just one body positivity blogger but every single one has an article on the “good fatty, bad fatty dichotomy”.

Wow, that website is shocking. And, of course, asking for $$ on homepage. These bloggers seriously taking advantage of a vulnerable audience.

But you didn’t bother to read the article.

what is your take from the article? I read it. Seems like she is misappropriating the experience of POC, LGBTQ+, and other oppressed groups. She acknowledges that for a lot of fat people, it comes down to lifestyle choice (eating fried chicken, not exercising, playing video games, etc). Yet she feels these people should go on ahead and society and healthcare providers should accept it. Certainly a lot of obese cannot control it, but the ones who can shouldn’t claim status as a discriminated people. She’s gross really. Thinks she’s being provocative, but no, she has no class.

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I do think they need several models. As a small, short female- looking at a model who is 5'11 and wearing a size 16 does nothing for me. I can't even guestimate how it would fit me. The cut would have to be completely different to fit a petite person.

I agree. The models are either fit or very large, nothing in between.

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I do think they need several models. As a small, short female- looking at a model who is 5'11 and wearing a size 16 does nothing for me. I can't even guestimate how it would fit me. The cut would have to be completely different to fit a petite person.

I agree. The models are either fit or very large, nothing in between.

Agree, I wish these companies would also use models in the 5’4” range.