Arlington DA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree, think what you want, doesn't change that one poster thinks Arlington plays possession soccer.

I love the people on DCUM who think they know things they don’t the most of all. You are the winner of this thread. Glad all your garbage posts were deleted by the admin.

You are mixing posters. My children play soccer in Arlington and it has never been about possession, but I hope that changes. I have seen DA, and it is not much different. Other posters from page 1 have talked about the boys changing that though. Jury still out, but you are probably the guy that thinks some switch was flipped and naming coaches. The only posts I saw deleted were by the CLASSY GUY from Arlington who said the F-word to some poster (you?), another guy complaining about some guy (you?) who was monitoring the board against any criticism, and some other nonsense probably from you when you said you don't even have children that play there. I should report your post, but I won't. It can stand for itself.

+100. Thank you for every word you said. All of it.

[Anonymous]

At least for U9-U10:

Arlington's strategy at the younger ages seems to be to collect the top 97-99th percentile of athletically developed kids who have decent skills and put them on the red team together.

The players who are skilled but not in the top size percentile get put on White

The undersized, but skilled players are put on Blue

The oversized but unskilled players are put on Black

The less skilled, less athletic group of players who are still part of the program are on Silver

Gold is a developmental group and they are interchangeable with some kids in ADP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree, think what you want, doesn't change that one poster thinks Arlington plays possession soccer.

I love the people on DCUM who think they know things they don’t the most of all. You are the winner of this thread. Glad all your garbage posts were deleted by the admin.

You are mixing posters. My children play soccer in Arlington and it has never been about possession, but I hope that changes. I have seen DA, and it is not much different. Other posters from page 1 have talked about the boys changing that though. Jury still out, but you are probably the guy that thinks some switch was flipped and naming coaches. The only posts I saw deleted were by the CLASSY GUY from Arlington who said the F-word to some poster (you?), another guy complaining about some guy (you?) who was monitoring the board against any criticism, and some other nonsense probably from you when you said you don't even have children that play there. I should report your post, but I won't. It can stand for itself.

NP - I think the problem is that we are all talking OVER each other. No one said that a switch was flipped (except for some very SARCASTIC poster). What was said was that the DA coaches are moving toward a possession style. That is the goal. Is it happening with the girls? Somewhat, depending on the competition. (And there was a very thoughtfully written post about this).
No one has said that Arlington DA has perfected the art of possession. These girls' teams have been practicing together for 2 1/2 months. They are learning but not always applying. Can we give it time and see what happens?

On another note, the girls play FCV this weekend. Since they are a good team, Arlington will most likely play a sloppy game. It won't be a fun to watch.

This is the best post in the thread to date. The post mentioning extreme is siding with the extreme view that all of the current DA teams are simply “kick and run” which anyone who has watched the games knows is false. People here are funny and not just in this thread. They write things with no basis in fact just to AstroTurf a viewpoint and expect people to agree, even those who have seen otherwise with their own eyes. It gets old, very fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree, think what you want, doesn't change that one poster thinks Arlington plays possession soccer.

I love the people on DCUM who think they know things they don’t the most of all. You are the winner of this thread. Glad all your garbage posts were deleted by the admin.

You are mixing posters. My children play soccer in Arlington and it has never been about possession, but I hope that changes. I have seen DA, and it is not much different. Other posters from page 1 have talked about the boys changing that though. Jury still out, but you are probably the guy that thinks some switch was flipped and naming coaches. The only posts I saw deleted were by the CLASSY GUY from Arlington who said the F-word to some poster (you?), another guy complaining about some guy (you?) who was monitoring the board against any criticism, and some other nonsense probably from you when you said you don't even have children that play there. I should report your post, but I won't. It can stand for itself.

NP - I think the problem is that we are all talking OVER each other. No one said that a switch was flipped (except for some very SARCASTIC poster). What was said was that the DA coaches are moving toward a possession style. That is the goal. Is it happening with the girls? Somewhat, depending on the competition. (And there was a very thoughtfully written post about this).
No one has said that Arlington DA has perfected the art of possession. These girls' teams have been practicing together for 2 1/2 months. They are learning but not always applying. Can we give it time and see what happens?

On another note, the girls play FCV this weekend. Since they are a good team, Arlington will most likely play a sloppy game. It won't be a fun to watch.

This is the best post in the thread to date. The post mentioning extreme is siding with the extreme view that all of the current DA teams are simply “kick and run” which anyone who has watched the games knows is false. People here are funny and not just in this thread. They write things with no basis in fact just to AstroTurf a viewpoint and expect people to agree, even those who have seen otherwise with their own eyes. It gets old, very fast.

I believe you are the extreme poster blaming Krieger and listing every non-American coach (they seem American to me) with some light switch analogy. Most posters are somewhat in the middle. The club has been around a lot longer before you showed up. Time will tell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least for U9-U10:

Arlington's strategy at the younger ages seems to be to collect the top 97-99th percentile of athletically developed kids who have decent skills and put them on the red team together.

The players who are skilled but not in the top size percentile get put on White

The undersized, but skilled players are put on Blue

The oversized but unskilled players are put on Black

The less skilled, less athletic group of players who are still part of the program are on Silver

Gold is a developmental group and they are interchangeable with some kids in ADP.

The problem is the cattle call tryout process where difficult to pick out individual skill. Occasionally you have a skilled small player that can stand out and make Red, but I wouldn't disagree with your post. The most athletic boys dominating physically and shooting rockets from midfield seem to get the attention even if no touch on the ball yet. At U9, the thought is it can be taught to them, and smaller players get overlooked even if they are trying to do something smarter with the ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least for U9-U10:

Arlington's strategy at the younger ages seems to be to collect the top 97-99th percentile of athletically developed kids who have decent skills and put them on the red team together.

The players who are skilled but not in the top size percentile get put on White

The undersized, but skilled players are put on Blue

The oversized but unskilled players are put on Black

The less skilled, less athletic group of players who are still part of the program are on Silver

Gold is a developmental group and they are interchangeable with some kids in ADP.

To be fair, this is true in the majority of Clubs in the area (and around round the country) that have the benefit of a large player pool.

They do it to get wins. In theory, they all say when the kids grow they will be able to move up. In reality, with so many teams--even with vast improvement and later growth these players never materialize on the top team in the same Club. They have to leave entirely to get noticed.

This is because they will look at new players each following year vs digging deep into their player pool. Also, if they reach down and pull a kid up, they get massive complaints from other parents on why 'Timmy' got moved up and not 'Jimmy'. IT is just much easier to take a brand new kid of equal talent.

If you do have a talented, smart smaller U9-U12 player, you really have to protect their development. They will often get less chances, less competitive players in practice and games and the last pick for coaches. They are not getting the same product as the kids on the first team for the same $.

Then, anytime a kid is going to try to move somewhere the first thing they have to provide is former team/coach---many clubs won't bother looking at a Club's 3rd-5th team players or just place them on a similar team in their Club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least for U9-U10:

Arlington's strategy at the younger ages seems to be to collect the top 97-99th percentile of athletically developed kids who have decent skills and put them on the red team together.

The players who are skilled but not in the top size percentile get put on White

The undersized, but skilled players are put on Blue

The oversized but unskilled players are put on Black

The less skilled, less athletic group of players who are still part of the program are on Silver

Gold is a developmental group and they are interchangeable with some kids in ADP.

To be fair, this is true in the majority of Clubs in the area (and around round the country) that have the benefit of a large player pool.

They do it to get wins. In theory, they all say when the kids grow they will be able to move up. In reality, with so many teams--even with vast improvement and later growth these players never materialize on the top team in the same Club. They have to leave entirely to get noticed.

This is because they will look at new players each following year vs digging deep into their player pool. Also, if they reach down and pull a kid up, they get massive complaints from other parents on why 'Timmy' got moved up and not 'Jimmy'. IT is just much easier to take a brand new kid of equal talent.

If you do have a talented, smart smaller U9-U12 player, you really have to protect their development. They will often get less chances, less competitive players in practice and games and the last pick for coaches. They are not getting the same product as the kids on the first team for the same $.

Then, anytime a kid is going to try to move somewhere the first thing they have to provide is former team/coach---many clubs won't bother looking at a Club's 3rd-5th team players or just place them on a similar team in their Club.

+100. Protect your kid's development at these early ages. Funny...DS fits in this category and was an undersized, skillful player at U9 and made the Blue team. We did not accept and he played on a top team at a smaller club. He then got dropped after his U9 season, for more aggressive, physical players. Played at a smaller club the following year where he was the top player, but really looking for something where he falls in the middle of the pack. The challenge has been to get him on a team where he can train/play with kids of similar technical abilities. DS has now been getting outside small group training to keep him challenged until we can find the right environment for him at a club.

[Anonymous]

I don't have kids at Arlington, so can't speak to how they choose their teams. I agree with most of the comments and all the advice in the last few posts, but I do want to note that a lot of clubs, even big clubs, do not care about how big a player is. They all are going to favor the coordinated player over the uncoordinated one and most look for speed in my experience. But many of them are very taken with small players, especially if they are quick and skillful.

[Anonymous]

At Arlington I have not seen bigger players selected for top teams, just faster or more skillful. There are other clubs that definitely have a size advantage.

I have seen smaller players drop from higher teams due to inability to be effective in game situations even though they were generally good with the ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At Arlington I have not seen bigger players selected for top teams, just faster or more skillful. There are other clubs that definitely have a size advantage.

I have seen smaller players drop from higher teams due to inability to be effective in game situations even though they were generally good with the ball.

I have seen larger less skillful players selected over faster smaller players for top team at Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At Arlington I have not seen bigger players selected for top teams, just faster or more skillful. There are other clubs that definitely have a size advantage.

I have seen smaller players drop from higher teams due to inability to be effective in game situations even though they were generally good with the ball.

I have seen larger less skillful players selected over faster smaller players for top team at Arlington.

I will take your word for it, maybe it’s certain age groups/years.

[Anonymous]

Arlington U10 boys Red and White have lots of undersized kids who are very athletic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington U10 boys Red and White have lots of undersized kids who are very athletic.

As a BSC parent that has played against both, I can attest to that.
Small, fast, and skilled. Red is very good, and White is probably the best "B" team in the region.
Disappointing they won't be at the Bethesda Tournament this year, but with the field situation I totally understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington U10 boys Red and White have lots of undersized kids who are very athletic.

As a BSC parent that has played against both, I can attest to that.
Small, fast, and skilled. Red is very good, and White is probably the best "B" team in the region.
Disappointing they won't be at the Bethesda Tournament this year, but with the field situation I totally understand.

9-year olds, correct ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arlington U10 boys Red and White have lots of undersized kids who are very athletic.

As a BSC parent that has played against both, I can attest to that.
Small, fast, and skilled. Red is very good, and White is probably the best "B" team in the region.
Disappointing they won't be at the Bethesda Tournament this year, but with the field situation I totally understand.

Hmmmm....what [i]parent[b] has played against both a U10 A and B team? "The best B team" in the region? That is too strange as to not feel like it's coming from a parent on that "B" team. Weird.