Who said there isn't a North-South divide?

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Anonymous wrote:You people are so boring and predictable. You talk a good game about diversity when you think it’s a stepping stone to increasing your own real estate values, typically at someone else’s expense, and that’s about it.

I learned how to play that game from you. Don’t hate the player.

LOL. That’s been the north Arlington game plan for years. We LOVE diversity and affordable housing so long as it’s in south Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:PP's above nailed it all right. It is a whole different world in S.A schools.

I challenge any N.A. parent who disagrees to come to a S.A. school and check out the activities and PTA expenses. We are at a title I S.A. school. We have a little money to spend, but not much. And, we spend money on things like coat drives and basics for some of the families. Rather than after school enrichment, kids are taking extra SOL preps. Those who don't need it don't get access to enrichment those days because the school won't do anything unless ALL kids can do it.

Our classrooms are filled with old furniture. Our yard is weeds. All of our equipment in the class is old. We don't do plays or independent projects. Things are really basic here.

What would you like to see happen? Bus some of the poor kids from your neighborhood to schools in the north? Force some of the kids in the north to come south? Move option programs around? Share PTA money? Give an opportunity to transfer your kids to Jamestown?

Serious question.

Moving option schools around is the most realistic option, and the best, IMHO. It's non-coercive. The idea is to create integrated, desirable schools as an alternative to the segregated schools ... besides the value of the particular instructional model (immersion, montessori, expeditionary learning, etc.) it would give NA kids exposure to the increasingly diverse future they will have to navigate as adults; and it would give SA student a view of what high performing schools and peers are actually like, not to mention the immense resource that is a critical mass of engaged parents. The key is to make it more attractive than a neighborhood school for a range of families.

I think APS wanted to do that, to the extent that was politically possible. Unfortunately, it seems like NA parents put the kibosh on that, at least for the time being. For whatever self-interested reason, moving around option schools was squashed a month ago. SA doesn't have that kind of mojo so it's no point denying it was a north Arlington thing. Will be interesting to see if it reemerges in a year or two or if it's just dead.

First, N.A. families did not "put the kibosh" on the location review, that was suspended because the staff didn't have the bandwidth to move that process through properly while also dealing with all of the revisions of the CIP. Odds are they're going to at least try to reopen it before Reed opens, they've made that very clear.

Second, moving around option schools is only helpful to a very limited portion of the population, and helps them at the expense of those left behind. We've seen that in spades in S.A. already, where UMC families disproportionately opt out of their neighborhood schools for option programs and neighborhood transfers, leaving their neighborhood schools with even higher FARMS and ESOL percentages. Even with moving the schools around and taking other steps to make them more accessible, there is every reason to believe this trend will continue, even if to a lesser degree.

Why didn't staff have the bandwidth? Because north Arlington parents were dumping binders of their own analysis on the admin, telling them they were wrong about moving this school or that one? Of course they put the kibosh on it.

Were you asleep through the entire CIP process? The staff was working crazy hours just to meet those deadlines, there literally were no hours left to do the location review. Sure, the community (not just N.A., some S.A. people were well in the mix too) didn’t help by pressing them to do a more thorough analysis, but they still could have done it if the CIP hadn’t blown up the way it did, courtesy of 22204.

22204 here. You’re welcome. And get used to it.

You're targeting your bile at the wrong person, I'm not in a neighborhood that was hurt by that decision. Other less affluent communities were, though, so it's not a good look to be crowing about it.

Oh, please. No “less affluent” neighborhood has been hurt.

The neighborhoods around Carlin Springs, Barcroft and Randolph didn't get a plan that might have broken up their concentrations of poverty and given them more choice options, and overcrowding relief is being delayed for ASFS, McKinley, Glebe and Long Branch. The winners there were the Nottingham/Tuckahoe/Discovery/Jamestown contingent (which are some of the lowest FARMs rates in the county) and, coincidentally, your 22204 neighborhood that's going to get its rezoning and overcrowding relief on schedule. Let me tell you how shocked I am that you're totally okay with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Solution: More apartments in North Arlington. More single family housing in South Arlington.

Cool, go find me a site in the Discovery zone where you could put an apartment building.

Restrictive zoning is a primary way to hoard opportunity. Just rezone.

Rezone what? Where is there a sufficiently large vacant parcel(s) in the Discovery zone that would be an attractive site to a developer for an apartment building?

Take a look at the various development in South Arlington - you don't need a "sufficiently large vacant parcel" to build large housing projects.

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Anonymous wrote:Which schools have $200k PTA budgets?

Nottingham. At least I know it has in the past. Jamestown?
The less willing a PTA is to share their budget, the more likely that budget approaches $200K

Overall the north elementaries are actually a lot more open about their finances to the public than the south elementaries, but sometimes you have to dig through meeting minutes to find it. From what I can see of actuals (as opposed to budgets), Jamestown's revenues for 2016-17 looks to have been about $140k. Nottingham's for the same year were about $130k.

That's probably because they make enough money to be required by law to file a nonprofit tax form. If you can't find the schools form, it's probably because they didn't have revenue to meet the reporting threshold.

Again, wtf are you talking about? Most, if not all, of both the north and south PTAs are subject to the same audit and reporting requirements, both to the state and national organizations and to the feds. None of them are required to post their financials to the publicly-accessible portions of their websites, but most of the North schools do anyway (either the docs themselves or the meeting minutes discussing the numbers) while most of the South schools do not.

That's not because they're hiding the information. They just aren't as experienced and polished as the more engaged PTAs of the north.

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Anonymous wrote:PP's above nailed it all right. It is a whole different world in S.A schools.

I challenge any N.A. parent who disagrees to come to a S.A. school and check out the activities and PTA expenses. We are at a title I S.A. school. We have a little money to spend, but not much. And, we spend money on things like coat drives and basics for some of the families. Rather than after school enrichment, kids are taking extra SOL preps. Those who don't need it don't get access to enrichment those days because the school won't do anything unless ALL kids can do it.

Our classrooms are filled with old furniture. Our yard is weeds. All of our equipment in the class is old. We don't do plays or independent projects. Things are really basic here.

What would you like to see happen? Bus some of the poor kids from your neighborhood to schools in the north? Force some of the kids in the north to come south? Move option programs around? Share PTA money? Give an opportunity to transfer your kids to Jamestown?

Serious question.

Moving option schools around is the most realistic option, and the best, IMHO. It's non-coercive. The idea is to create integrated, desirable schools as an alternative to the segregated schools ... besides the value of the particular instructional model (immersion, montessori, expeditionary learning, etc.) it would give NA kids exposure to the increasingly diverse future they will have to navigate as adults; and it would give SA student a view of what high performing schools and peers are actually like, not to mention the immense resource that is a critical mass of engaged parents. The key is to make it more attractive than a neighborhood school for a range of families.

I think APS wanted to do that, to the extent that was politically possible. Unfortunately, it seems like NA parents put the kibosh on that, at least for the time being. For whatever self-interested reason, moving around option schools was squashed a month ago. SA doesn't have that kind of mojo so it's no point denying it was a north Arlington thing. Will be interesting to see if it reemerges in a year or two or if it's just dead.

First, N.A. families did not "put the kibosh" on the location review, that was suspended because the staff didn't have the bandwidth to move that process through properly while also dealing with all of the revisions of the CIP. Odds are they're going to at least try to reopen it before Reed opens, they've made that very clear.

Second, moving around option schools is only helpful to a very limited portion of the population, and helps them at the expense of those left behind. We've seen that in spades in S.A. already, where UMC families disproportionately opt out of their neighborhood schools for option programs and neighborhood transfers, leaving their neighborhood schools with even higher FARMS and ESOL percentages. Even with moving the schools around and taking other steps to make them more accessible, there is every reason to believe this trend will continue, even if to a lesser degree.

Why didn't staff have the bandwidth? Because north Arlington parents were dumping binders of their own analysis on the admin, telling them they were wrong about moving this school or that one? Of course they put the kibosh on it.

Were you asleep through the entire CIP process? The staff was working crazy hours just to meet those deadlines, there literally were no hours left to do the location review. Sure, the community (not just N.A., some S.A. people were well in the mix too) didn’t help by pressing them to do a more thorough analysis, but they still could have done it if the CIP hadn’t blown up the way it did, courtesy of 22204.

Excuse me? "Courtesy of 22204"???? 22204 is the reason APS needs a fourth high school? Or are you blaming 22204 because that's where APS is looking to build more seats and people in 22204 expect those seats to offer the things seats elsewhere in the county offer?

It isn't 22204's fault CIP funding is limited and the County and School Boards have failed to properly plan and be more frugal with their funds for the past several decades. If you want 22204 to contribute more to County funds, then start advocating for no more affordable housing projects in 22204 and FOR thousands of CAFs in the north.

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Anonymous wrote:Which schools have $200k PTA budgets?

Nottingham. At least I know it has in the past. Jamestown?
The less willing a PTA is to share their budget, the more likely that budget approaches $200K

Overall the north elementaries are actually a lot more open about their finances to the public than the south elementaries, but sometimes you have to dig through meeting minutes to find it. From what I can see of actuals (as opposed to budgets), Jamestown's revenues for 2016-17 looks to have been about $140k. Nottingham's for the same year were about $130k.

That's probably because they make enough money to be required by law to file a nonprofit tax form. If you can't find the schools form, it's probably because they didn't have revenue to meet the reporting threshold.

Again, wtf are you talking about? Most, if not all, of both the north and south PTAs are subject to the same audit and reporting requirements, both to the state and national organizations and to the feds. None of them are required to post their financials to the publicly-accessible portions of their websites, but most of the North schools do anyway (either the docs themselves or the meeting minutes discussing the numbers) while most of the South schools do not.

That's not because they're hiding the information. They just aren't as experienced and polished as the more engaged PTAs of the north.

I didn't say the south PTAs were trying to hide anything, I was refuting the assertion that north PTAs are hiding their financial information because their budgets are so big. That claim is simply untrue because almost all of them make their numbers publicly available even though they're not required to.

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Anonymous wrote:PP's above nailed it all right. It is a whole different world in S.A schools.

I challenge any N.A. parent who disagrees to come to a S.A. school and check out the activities and PTA expenses. We are at a title I S.A. school. We have a little money to spend, but not much. And, we spend money on things like coat drives and basics for some of the families. Rather than after school enrichment, kids are taking extra SOL preps. Those who don't need it don't get access to enrichment those days because the school won't do anything unless ALL kids can do it.

Our classrooms are filled with old furniture. Our yard is weeds. All of our equipment in the class is old. We don't do plays or independent projects. Things are really basic here.

What would you like to see happen? Bus some of the poor kids from your neighborhood to schools in the north? Force some of the kids in the north to come south? Move option programs around? Share PTA money? Give an opportunity to transfer your kids to Jamestown?

Serious question.

Moving option schools around is the most realistic option, and the best, IMHO. It's non-coercive. The idea is to create integrated, desirable schools as an alternative to the segregated schools ... besides the value of the particular instructional model (immersion, montessori, expeditionary learning, etc.) it would give NA kids exposure to the increasingly diverse future they will have to navigate as adults; and it would give SA student a view of what high performing schools and peers are actually like, not to mention the immense resource that is a critical mass of engaged parents. The key is to make it more attractive than a neighborhood school for a range of families.

I think APS wanted to do that, to the extent that was politically possible. Unfortunately, it seems like NA parents put the kibosh on that, at least for the time being. For whatever self-interested reason, moving around option schools was squashed a month ago. SA doesn't have that kind of mojo so it's no point denying it was a north Arlington thing. Will be interesting to see if it reemerges in a year or two or if it's just dead.

First, N.A. families did not "put the kibosh" on the location review, that was suspended because the staff didn't have the bandwidth to move that process through properly while also dealing with all of the revisions of the CIP. Odds are they're going to at least try to reopen it before Reed opens, they've made that very clear.

Second, moving around option schools is only helpful to a very limited portion of the population, and helps them at the expense of those left behind. We've seen that in spades in S.A. already, where UMC families disproportionately opt out of their neighborhood schools for option programs and neighborhood transfers, leaving their neighborhood schools with even higher FARMS and ESOL percentages. Even with moving the schools around and taking other steps to make them more accessible, there is every reason to believe this trend will continue, even if to a lesser degree.

Why didn't staff have the bandwidth? Because north Arlington parents were dumping binders of their own analysis on the admin, telling them they were wrong about moving this school or that one? Of course they put the kibosh on it.

Were you asleep through the entire CIP process? The staff was working crazy hours just to meet those deadlines, there literally were no hours left to do the location review. Sure, the community (not just N.A., some S.A. people were well in the mix too) didn’t help by pressing them to do a more thorough analysis, but they still could have done it if the CIP hadn’t blown up the way it did, courtesy of 22204.

Excuse me? "Courtesy of 22204"???? 22204 is the reason APS needs a fourth high school? Or are you blaming 22204 because that's where APS is looking to build more seats and people in 22204 expect those seats to offer the things seats elsewhere in the county offer?

It isn't 22204's fault CIP funding is limited and the County and School Boards have failed to properly plan and be more frugal with their funds for the past several decades. If you want 22204 to contribute more to County funds, then start advocating for no more affordable housing projects in 22204 and FOR thousands of CAFs in the north.

Take a pill and stop making things up that weren't said. The more you try to spin such ridiculous accusations, the harder you make it to take anything you say seriously, even when you are being rational.

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me sad to see so much hatred spewed at my NA school. Our PTA does raise a good amount each year and we also have tried to establish partnerships to help others and build community.

The Partner School concept can really work. Some highlights of what we have done:
- Establishing meaningful teaming at each grade level with our partner school.
- Principal-to-Principal coordination.
- Teachers plan joint projects and activities.
- We alternate doing activities between each school (so bus kids both north and south)
- Our school pays for things like visiting authors, etc. All kids/teachers benefit.
- At each activity, we pair up “buddies” (one kid from each school). My kids enjoy meeting new people and talk about how they saw their buddy from the other school and what they did.
- At the holidays, our Partner school set up a Sign-Up-Genius for individual children in need (anonymous - eg Girl, age 9). The social worker at our Partner school asked each family in need what their kids could use. Some families needed winter coats, tennis shoes, a new backpack, etc. We sent out the Sign-Up Genius to our families for people to sign up for a shopping list for an individual child. We filled it in less than 24 hours. Kids in need got new items and what they actually need (instead of hand-me-down, cast-offs that might not be quite right.)
- This Spring, we used a similar Sign-Up-Genius concept for people to sign up to pay the fees for Summer School or Enrichment through APS. Also great success.
- This partnership continues to expand. I like it because it is creating more meaningful bonds than only sending money or planning a fair event (as mentioned by a PP) that might require a lot of parent involvement. This involvement is really at the student and teacher level.

We were also really excited for the Glebe Odyssey of the Mibd team who went to the International competition and our PTA supported them, too.

I see people say horrible things about my school all the time and lots of assumptions about what our families are like - lots of very negative stereotypes. Just sharing a few ways our school has tried to partner and share with our community - despite what others may think.

This is fantastic and I wish more people across the system even knew that two schools are doing this. Sister schools in the past have been limited and short-lived because they were more of a charity case than true relationship, interaction, sharing, and community-building. Perhaps you could have someone from each of your two schools visit other schools' PTA meetings to tell them about your partnership - or ask CCPTA if they will host you to do the same in front of reps from several schools at once. I know the new CCPTA president is very supportive of ways to increase SED and ways to bring schools with different demographics together.

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Anonymous wrote:PP's above nailed it all right. It is a whole different world in S.A schools.

I challenge any N.A. parent who disagrees to come to a S.A. school and check out the activities and PTA expenses. We are at a title I S.A. school. We have a little money to spend, but not much. And, we spend money on things like coat drives and basics for some of the families. Rather than after school enrichment, kids are taking extra SOL preps. Those who don't need it don't get access to enrichment those days because the school won't do anything unless ALL kids can do it.

Our classrooms are filled with old furniture. Our yard is weeds. All of our equipment in the class is old. We don't do plays or independent projects. Things are really basic here.

What would you like to see happen? Bus some of the poor kids from your neighborhood to schools in the north? Force some of the kids in the north to come south? Move option programs around? Share PTA money? Give an opportunity to transfer your kids to Jamestown?

Serious question.

Moving option schools around is the most realistic option, and the best, IMHO. It's non-coercive. The idea is to create integrated, desirable schools as an alternative to the segregated schools ... besides the value of the particular instructional model (immersion, montessori, expeditionary learning, etc.) it would give NA kids exposure to the increasingly diverse future they will have to navigate as adults; and it would give SA student a view of what high performing schools and peers are actually like, not to mention the immense resource that is a critical mass of engaged parents. The key is to make it more attractive than a neighborhood school for a range of families.

I think APS wanted to do that, to the extent that was politically possible. Unfortunately, it seems like NA parents put the kibosh on that, at least for the time being. For whatever self-interested reason, moving around option schools was squashed a month ago. SA doesn't have that kind of mojo so it's no point denying it was a north Arlington thing. Will be interesting to see if it reemerges in a year or two or if it's just dead.

First, N.A. families did not "put the kibosh" on the location review, that was suspended because the staff didn't have the bandwidth to move that process through properly while also dealing with all of the revisions of the CIP. Odds are they're going to at least try to reopen it before Reed opens, they've made that very clear.

Second, moving around option schools is only helpful to a very limited portion of the population, and helps them at the expense of those left behind. We've seen that in spades in S.A. already, where UMC families disproportionately opt out of their neighborhood schools for option programs and neighborhood transfers, leaving their neighborhood schools with even higher FARMS and ESOL percentages. Even with moving the schools around and taking other steps to make them more accessible, there is every reason to believe this trend will continue, even if to a lesser degree.

Why didn't staff have the bandwidth? Because north Arlington parents were dumping binders of their own analysis on the admin, telling them they were wrong about moving this school or that one? Of course they put the kibosh on it.

Were you asleep through the entire CIP process? The staff was working crazy hours just to meet those deadlines, there literally were no hours left to do the location review. Sure, the community (not just N.A., some S.A. people were well in the mix too) didn’t help by pressing them to do a more thorough analysis, but they still could have done it if the CIP hadn’t blown up the way it did, courtesy of 22204.

22204 here. You’re welcome. And get used to it.

You're targeting your bile at the wrong person, I'm not in a neighborhood that was hurt by that decision. Other less affluent communities were, though, so it's not a good look to be crowing about it.

Oh, please. No “less affluent” neighborhood has been hurt.

The neighborhoods around Carlin Springs, Barcroft and Randolph didn't get a plan that might have broken up their concentrations of poverty and given them more choice options, and overcrowding relief is being delayed for ASFS, McKinley, Glebe and Long Branch. The winners there were the Nottingham/Tuckahoe/Discovery/Jamestown contingent (which are some of the lowest FARMs rates in the county) and, coincidentally, your 22204 neighborhood that's going to get its rezoning and overcrowding relief on schedule. Let me tell you how shocked I am that you're totally okay with that.

Please, again. According to you those “poor” neighborhoods don’t want change anyway. You can’t have it both ways. And by the way, Henry is the most overcrowded elementary school. You are ridiculous if you think I’m not going to speak up when APS plans to build a crap high school for those kids.

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I just read this thread, and it’s SHOCKING the amount of classism is coming from North Arlington. I attend henry, and preferred the diversity. When you attend a school with people just like you, you loose out on learning. With diversity (economic and racial) you learn more in all subjects. Concentrating people, by economics or class, leads to a ghetto- making problems bigger that they would be otherwise. Worst case for me is sending my kids to a school with a bunch of white entitled kids

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First of all, you all act as if people in affordable housing don’t have cars. That is false. They have jus as many cars as the rest of us. I live in the mist of affordable housing down here on the pike and there are so many cars that the parking lots are totally inadequate and cars spill into the Sfh streets so that people who live there have zero street parking. Blocks and blocks of cars from CAFs. I know people who live in cafs and marks, they have lots of cars, ever drive down George mason south of 50?

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Anonymous wrote:PP's above nailed it all right. It is a whole different world in S.A schools.

I challenge any N.A. parent who disagrees to come to a S.A. school and check out the activities and PTA expenses. We are at a title I S.A. school. We have a little money to spend, but not much. And, we spend money on things like coat drives and basics for some of the families. Rather than after school enrichment, kids are taking extra SOL preps. Those who don't need it don't get access to enrichment those days because the school won't do anything unless ALL kids can do it.

Our classrooms are filled with old furniture. Our yard is weeds. All of our equipment in the class is old. We don't do plays or independent projects. Things are really basic here.

What would you like to see happen? Bus some of the poor kids from your neighborhood to schools in the north? Force some of the kids in the north to come south? Move option programs around? Share PTA money? Give an opportunity to transfer your kids to Jamestown?

Serious question.

Moving option schools around is the most realistic option, and the best, IMHO. It's non-coercive. The idea is to create integrated, desirable schools as an alternative to the segregated schools ... besides the value of the particular instructional model (immersion, montessori, expeditionary learning, etc.) it would give NA kids exposure to the increasingly diverse future they will have to navigate as adults; and it would give SA student a view of what high performing schools and peers are actually like, not to mention the immense resource that is a critical mass of engaged parents. The key is to make it more attractive than a neighborhood school for a range of families.

I think APS wanted to do that, to the extent that was politically possible. Unfortunately, it seems like NA parents put the kibosh on that, at least for the time being. For whatever self-interested reason, moving around option schools was squashed a month ago. SA doesn't have that kind of mojo so it's no point denying it was a north Arlington thing. Will be interesting to see if it reemerges in a year or two or if it's just dead.

First, N.A. families did not "put the kibosh" on the location review, that was suspended because the staff didn't have the bandwidth to move that process through properly while also dealing with all of the revisions of the CIP. Odds are they're going to at least try to reopen it before Reed opens, they've made that very clear.

Second, moving around option schools is only helpful to a very limited portion of the population, and helps them at the expense of those left behind. We've seen that in spades in S.A. already, where UMC families disproportionately opt out of their neighborhood schools for option programs and neighborhood transfers, leaving their neighborhood schools with even higher FARMS and ESOL percentages. Even with moving the schools around and taking other steps to make them more accessible, there is every reason to believe this trend will continue, even if to a lesser degree.

Why didn't staff have the bandwidth? Because north Arlington parents were dumping binders of their own analysis on the admin, telling them they were wrong about moving this school or that one? Of course they put the kibosh on it.

Were you asleep through the entire CIP process? The staff was working crazy hours just to meet those deadlines, there literally were no hours left to do the location review. Sure, the community (not just N.A., some S.A. people were well in the mix too) didn’t help by pressing them to do a more thorough analysis, but they still could have done it if the CIP hadn’t blown up the way it did, courtesy of 22204.

22204 here. You’re welcome. And get used to it.

You're targeting your bile at the wrong person, I'm not in a neighborhood that was hurt by that decision. Other less affluent communities were, though, so it's not a good look to be crowing about it.

Oh, please. No “less affluent” neighborhood has been hurt.

The neighborhoods around Carlin Springs, Barcroft and Randolph didn't get a plan that might have broken up their concentrations of poverty and given them more choice options, and overcrowding relief is being delayed for ASFS, McKinley, Glebe and Long Branch. The winners there were the Nottingham/Tuckahoe/Discovery/Jamestown contingent (which are some of the lowest FARMs rates in the county) and, coincidentally, your 22204 neighborhood that's going to get its rezoning and overcrowding relief on schedule. Let me tell you how shocked I am that you're totally okay with that.

Please, again. According to you those “poor” neighborhoods don’t want change anyway. You can’t have it both ways. And by the way, Henry is the most overcrowded elementary school. You are ridiculous if you think I’m not going to speak up when APS plans to build a crap high school for those kids.

DP. First, you are talking to multiple people here so you can’t assume everything is coming from one person just so you can attack them. Second, Henry is getting relief when Fleet opens. Those other schools have to wait two years after that to get relief, whereas under the original plan of doing all of the boundaries at once, the staff intended to move planning units as early as feasible for those schools to give them relief sooner. Now they’re planning to move as few of the planning units as possible to give them more flexibility for the following round. You are not the biggest victim here.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, you all act as if people in affordable housing don’t have cars. That is false. They have jus as many cars as the rest of us. I live in the mist of affordable housing down here on the pike and there are so many cars that the parking lots are totally inadequate and cars spill into the Sfh streets so that people who live there have zero street parking. Blocks and blocks of cars from CAFs. I know people who live in cafs and marks, they have lots of cars, ever drive down George mason south of 50?

The highest concentrations of poverty along the Pike are west of there. You know, by the schools whose FARMS rates are more than twice Henry’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Solution: More apartments in North Arlington. More single family housing in South Arlington.

Cool, go find me a site in the Discovery zone where you could put an apartment building.

Restrictive zoning is a primary way to hoard opportunity. Just rezone.

Rezone what? Where is there a sufficiently large vacant parcel(s) in the Discovery zone that would be an attractive site to a developer for an apartment building?

Take a look at the various development in South Arlington - you don't need a "sufficiently large vacant parcel" to build large housing projects.

So find a site, no one is stopping you from identifying one.

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Anonymous wrote:First of all, you all act as if people in affordable housing don’t have cars. That is false. They have jus as many cars as the rest of us. I live in the mist of affordable housing down here on the pike and there are so many cars that the parking lots are totally inadequate and cars spill into the Sfh streets so that people who live there have zero street parking. Blocks and blocks of cars from CAFs. I know people who live in cafs and marks, they have lots of cars, ever drive down George mason south of 50?

The highest concentrations of poverty along the Pike are west of there. You know, by the schools whose FARMS rates are more than twice Henry’s.

And they have lots of cars here on the west end, too.