New Name for JEB Stuart HS - 9/16 Community Vote

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave the name and use the funds to deport out the 88% illegal population

Get rid of the bigots too while we are at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oy vey! I don't know what is with these people. Seriously.... Stuart is not an option, really. And there is no way Marshall can happen. BJHS (Johns HS) is a disaster as well.

The school board has never shown much good judgment to date... so I don't have a lot of faith in how this will be resolved.

I'm really surprised Seven Corners or Skyline didn't get more votes. It looks like the direct school community didn't care about changing the name. Seems those most motivated to show up today were those opposed to the change altogether.

Let's see how they spin this data into a decent name.

I thought PMS (Poe Middle School) was bad enough.

FCPS would be the laughingstock of the nation to name a school BJHS.

"Several schools bear Barbara Jordan's name, including an elementary school in Odessa, Texas, and Austin, Texas, Barbara Jordan Early College Prep School,an elementary school in Richmond, Texas, Barbara Jordan Elementary School, a middle school in Cibolo, Texas, and Barbara Jordan High School in Houston."

Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Well, we'll see how the board interprets the votes. Given the number of votes for Marshall and Johns combined, I think it'd be disingenuous to say most of the voters wanted Stuart. The board decided not to have a run-off vote with the top two choices so there could be a clear majority. This mess is on them.

Evans and Hynes started this mess and probably have done more damage to the community than necessary. They started with a predetermined outcome, and tried to manipulate the system to achieve that outcome.

Had they just said from the beginning that they were going to change the name, they would have ticked people off but it would have been over. Instead, they tried to make it look like the community desired the change. The majority did not desire the change. Now, they have given Braband a mess to clean up.

Dollars to doughnuts, they change the rules again and have a run off because the results were not what they desired. And, to those saying it should be Johns or Marshall (two poor choices for reasons other than the people those names represent), the majority also did not support those names.

They don't need to do a run off or to change the rules. The rules clearly say the voting is to provide potential names to the board and is not binding. The board has the final say. They can therefore consider the type of names that garnered the most votes and pick a name based on that.

[Anonymous]

They don't need to do a run off or to change the rules. The rules clearly say the voting is to provide potential names to the board and is not binding. The board has the final say. They can therefore consider the type of names that garnered the most votes and pick a name based on that.

Didn't the Board suggest generic "Stuart". And,now you want them to negate that vote?

[Anonymous]

Motion from the July 17, 2017 meeting:

I move that the name of J.E.B Stuart High School be changed no later than the start of the 2019 School Year.
I further move that the Board direct staff to start the renaming process this fall and that as part of that process--in the spirit of compromise and in recognition of the need to minimize costs as well as the desire for continuity by alumni--staff request that the Stuart community consider “Stuart High School” as the new name.
The Board further directs staff to create a mechanism for private funding, with the expectation that private funding will pay for a substantial portion of the costs.

Motion by Sandra S Evans, second by Patricia Hynes.
Final Resolution: Motion Carries
Yes: Sandra S Evans, Dalia Palchik, Ryan McElveen, Karen Corbett Sanders - Vice Chair, Jane K Strauss - Chair, Ilryong Moon, Patricia Hynes
No: Tom Wilson, Elizabeth Schultz
Abstain: Megan McLaughlin, Tamara D Kaufax

And, now you expect them to change their minds once again? This motion passed. Stuart received the most votes. Why would they choose something else now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Motion from the July 17, 2017 meeting:

I move that the name of J.E.B Stuart High School be changed no later than the start of the 2019 School Year.
I further move that the Board direct staff to start the renaming process this fall and that as part of that process--in the spirit of compromise and in recognition of the need to minimize costs as well as the desire for continuity by alumni--staff request that the Stuart community consider “Stuart High School” as the new name.
The Board further directs staff to create a mechanism for private funding, with the expectation that private funding will pay for a substantial portion of the costs.

Motion by Sandra S Evans, second by Patricia Hynes.
Final Resolution: Motion Carries
Yes: Sandra S Evans, Dalia Palchik, Ryan McElveen, Karen Corbett Sanders - Vice Chair, Jane K Strauss - Chair, Ilryong Moon, Patricia Hynes
No: Tom Wilson, Elizabeth Schultz
Abstain: Megan McLaughlin, Tamara D Kaufax

And, now you expect them to change their minds once again? This motion passed. Stuart received the most votes. Why would they choose something else now?

So the Board says they have voted to change the name, then disingenuously suggest Stuart is a name change, then they set up a voting process where they set forth 72 names and no run-off mechanism, and then they says the winner is Stuart with a third of the votes, a majority of the community has spoken. Sounds about right. I really don't care whether they change the name, but this who process shows the incompetence of our school board.

[Anonymous]

So the Board says they have voted to change the name, then disingenuously suggest Stuart is a name change, then they set up a voting process where they set forth 72 names and no run-off mechanism, and then they says the winner is Stuart with a third of the votes, a majority of the community has spoken. Sounds about right. I really don't care whether they change the name, but this who process shows the incompetence of our school board.

You left out the part where the community initially voted to keep the name, but the Board kept changing the rules. The lack of vision for "unintended consequences" with this Board is incredible.

My dad always said that most teachers lacked common sense. (And, yet, he encouraged me to become one!) Our School Board lacks common sense in spades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.

Couldn't you say that about any of the choices?

Fact: Stuart got the most votes.
Fact: It is likely that many of the community in favor of keeping Jeb Stuart did not show up to vote. They had voted (and won) at the beginning of the process and been demonized.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.

Couldn't you say that about any of the choices?

Fact: Stuart got the most votes.
Fact: It is likely that many of the community in favor of keeping Jeb Stuart did not show up to vote. They had voted (and won) at the beginning of the process and been demonized.

I agree.

Then it's decided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they pick Stuart they will be picking a name the a majority of those who voted didn't want. The voters were all community members. If they end up choosing Stuart instead of JEB Stuart despite those results, it will be clear they really were just pretending to being open to changing the name, but really weren't.

Couldn't you say that about any of the choices?

Fact: Stuart got the most votes.
Fact: It is likely that many of the community in favor of keeping Jeb Stuart did not show up to vote. They had voted (and won) at the beginning of the process and been demonized.

I agree.

Then it's decided.

Glad you agree!

[Anonymous]

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/falls-church/debate-over-jeb-stuart-high-name-change-continues/476748538

Sounds like Ryan forgot that he voted in support of "Stuart"........

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/falls-church/debate-over-jeb-stuart-high-name-change-continues/476748538

Sounds like Ryan forgot that he voted in support of "Stuart"........

No. He voted in favor of getting rid of "J.E.B. Stuart" and allowing the community to decide whether "Stuart High School" without the initials was an acceptable "compromise" name.

It clearly isn't. Over 80% of the votes were against "Stuart High School." It would be ridiculous to make that the new name, and Ryan has correctly pointed that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/falls-church/debate-over-jeb-stuart-high-name-change-continues/476748538

Sounds like Ryan forgot that he voted in support of "Stuart"........

No. He voted in favor of getting rid of "J.E.B. Stuart" and allowing the community to decide whether "Stuart High School" without the initials was an acceptable "compromise" name.

It clearly isn't. Over 80% of the votes were against "Stuart High School." It would be ridiculous to make that the new name, and Ryan has correctly pointed that out.

You don't believe in rules do you? Do you always want to change them every time you don't get the result you desire?

First, we were told we would go by a community vote. The community voted by about 2/3 to keep Jeb Stuart.
Then, we were told we would form a committee. Half of the Ad Hoc committee--the half from outside the community voted to change. The other half--made up of community members--voted to keep Jeb Stuart.

Meanwhile, the slots to speak at SB meetings were manipulated in the early meetings to favor those who wanted change.

FOIA'd emails indicated that Evans had desired this change for sometime and worked with "changers"--many from outside the community. FOIA also indicates that the "massive resistance" reason for the Jeb Stuart name was bogus. Evans or Hynes made clear that the "massive resistance" reason was important to getting change. And, even though it is indicated in the FOIA through minutes from old SB meetings that this was not the case, they kept citing that.

Again, the community voted early on that they wished to keep the name Jeb Stuart.
Evans and Hynes did not like that result, so they changed the rules. Over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/falls-church/debate-over-jeb-stuart-high-name-change-continues/476748538

Sounds like Ryan forgot that he voted in support of "Stuart"........

No. He voted in favor of getting rid of "J.E.B. Stuart" and allowing the community to decide whether "Stuart High School" without the initials was an acceptable "compromise" name.

It clearly isn't. Over 80% of the votes were against "Stuart High School." It would be ridiculous to make that the new name, and Ryan has correctly pointed that out.

With a ridiculous number of names to choose from, Stuart won the most points. Change proponents are now arguing that a vote for Peace Valley (or Triggered Snowflake, or Braden Aust) is a vote for Barbara Rose Johns, but that is not necessarily the case.

[Anonymous]

With a ridiculous number of names to choose from, Stuart won the most points. Change proponents are now arguing that a vote for Peace Valley (or Triggered Snowflake, or Braden Aust) is a vote for Barbara Rose Johns, but that is not necessarily the case.

I think a vote for Triggered Snowflake is a vote for JEB Stuart.

Are some of those names the names of high school students? Never heard of them.