Private School Soccer Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Prediction - SSSAS beats STA this week, signaling a rise of its soccer program to match its lacrosse program.

Inapt analogy because the best HS lacrosse players do play for their school teams -- HS soccer has the best players scooped off by the Academy system. And IAC lacrosse is a top league nationally -- not so for IAC soccer teams, which would be beaten by California middle school teams. And, at least from this thread, unless you can beat the Landon team, closest thing around to the U.S. Men's National Team, you're nothing in the IAC. They only lost because they were so very tired from beating a TOP Jersey side the day before, after all! So, it's all about Landon. Right?

Having watched many a HS soccer game, the academy payers that end up coming back and playing for HS, have a much better experience than club. When the whole school is there watching your team take on a rival,that is camaraderie that you can't buy. It's too bad that club soccer took that away from so many.

My son is playing for his HS soccer team for the first time as a senior. Academy "paid off" I guess, in that he's been recruited. But part of me feels guilty that I've deprived my son of the soccer team experience in high school. He is having so much fun playing this fall, and I totally echo the comment about "camaraderie that money can't buy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prediction - SSSAS beats STA this week, signaling a rise of its soccer program to match its lacrosse program.

Inapt analogy because the best HS lacrosse players do play for their school teams -- HS soccer has the best players scooped off by the Academy system. And IAC lacrosse is a top league nationally -- not so for IAC soccer teams, which would be beaten by California middle school teams. And, at least from this thread, unless you can beat the Landon team, closest thing around to the U.S. Men's National Team, you're nothing in the IAC. They only lost because they were so very tired from beating a TOP Jersey side the day before, after all! So, it's all about Landon. Right?

Having watched many a HS soccer game, the academy payers that end up coming back and playing for HS, have a much better experience than club. When the whole school is there watching your team take on a rival,that is camaraderie that you can't buy. It's too bad that club soccer took that away from so many.

My son is playing for his HS soccer team for the first time as a senior. Academy "paid off" I guess, in that he's been recruited. But part of me feels guilty that I've deprived my son of the soccer team experience in high school. He is having so much fun playing this fall, and I totally echo the comment about "camaraderie that money can't buy."

I don't think you should feel guilty. It was your son's decision, right?

We've seen a lot of DA kids leave DA junior or senior year to play HS and for a less intense soccer club team. Most of them weren't getting much playing time in DA, which is really frustrating when you are an excellent player who is putting in a ton of time. The way I see it is they have the best of both worlds. The skills and mindset they got from DA will pretty much guarantee that they are stars for their HS team and will be able to do well on their college teams, plus they get the fun of HS soccer for a year or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prediction - SSSAS beats STA this week, signaling a rise of its soccer program to match its lacrosse program.

Inapt analogy because the best HS lacrosse players do play for their school teams -- HS soccer has the best players scooped off by the Academy system. And IAC lacrosse is a top league nationally -- not so for IAC soccer teams, which would be beaten by California middle school teams. And, at least from this thread, unless you can beat the Landon team, closest thing around to the U.S. Men's National Team, you're nothing in the IAC. They only lost because they were so very tired from beating a TOP Jersey side the day before, after all! So, it's all about Landon. Right?

Having watched many a HS soccer game, the academy payers that end up coming back and playing for HS, have a much better experience than club. When the whole school is there watching your team take on a rival,that is camaraderie that you can't buy. It's too bad that club soccer took that away from so many.

Having watched a lot of club and HS soccer with 3 boys, HS soccer is just awful. Technical talent is limited to the good club players, but speed and size are evenly distributed among the good and poor players, so the good players end up being hacked up constantly. It's all long ball, because the players have no hope of possessing the ball more than a few passes. The coaching is poor, the reffing is poor, the fouling is nonstop - it is in general a very bad experience. Would I still want my kids to play HS knowing all that? Yes for all the other reasons metioned, but I would be much more tempered in my expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prediction - SSSAS beats STA this week, signaling a rise of its soccer program to match its lacrosse program.

Inapt analogy because the best HS lacrosse players do play for their school teams -- HS soccer has the best players scooped off by the Academy system. And IAC lacrosse is a top league nationally -- not so for IAC soccer teams, which would be beaten by California middle school teams. And, at least from this thread, unless you can beat the Landon team, closest thing around to the U.S. Men's National Team, you're nothing in the IAC. They only lost because they were so very tired from beating a TOP Jersey side the day before, after all! So, it's all about Landon. Right?

Having watched many a HS soccer game, the academy payers that end up coming back and playing for HS, have a much better experience than club. When the whole school is there watching your team take on a rival,that is camaraderie that you can't buy. It's too bad that club soccer took that away from so many.

Having watched a lot of club and HS soccer with 3 boys, HS soccer is just awful. Technical talent is limited to the good club players, but speed and size are evenly distributed among the good and poor players, so the good players end up being hacked up constantly. It's all long ball, because the players have no hope of possessing the ball more than a few passes. The coaching is poor, the reffing is poor, the fouling is nonstop - it is in general a very bad experience. Would I still want my kids to play HS knowing all that? Yes for all the other reasons metioned, but I would be much more tempered in my expectations.

PP is spot on. I find it very painful to watch my DD's HS team play (and I worry about all the fouling that is not called).

After seeing a couple of her HS games I long to watch her high level club team play. Like night and day.

[Anonymous]

What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

[Anonymous]

Why doesn't St. Albans play against WIS anymore? Wasn't that a great rivalry for a few years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Meh. College recruitment lists for the crew, lacrosse and field hockey players are much more impressive from a USNWR perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Meh. College recruitment lists for the crew, lacrosse and field hockey players are much more impressive from a USNWR perspective.

True, but a lot of kids playing those sports are trying for Ivies or NESCACs. Most of the kids who stay in DA want strong soccer programs and scholarships, which you can only get at a handful of the top 20 USNWR schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Meh. College recruitment lists for the crew, lacrosse and field hockey players are much more impressive from a USNWR perspective.

True, but a lot of kids playing those sports are trying for Ivies or NESCACs. Most of the kids who stay in DA want strong soccer programs and scholarships, which you can only get at a handful of the top 20 USNWR schools.

Congratulations to all of these recruited athletes. Getting recruited in ANY sport is no easy feat (pun sort of intended).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prediction - SSSAS beats STA this week, signaling a rise of its soccer program to match its lacrosse program.

Inapt analogy because the best HS lacrosse players do play for their school teams -- HS soccer has the best players scooped off by the Academy system. And IAC lacrosse is a top league nationally -- not so for IAC soccer teams, which would be beaten by California middle school teams. And, at least from this thread, unless you can beat the Landon team, closest thing around to the U.S. Men's National Team, you're nothing in the IAC. They only lost because they were so very tired from beating a TOP Jersey side the day before, after all! So, it's all about Landon. Right?

Having watched many a HS soccer game, the academy payers that end up coming back and playing for HS, have a much better experience than club. When the whole school is there watching your team take on a rival,that is camaraderie that you can't buy. It's too bad that club soccer took that away from so many.

Having watched a lot of club and HS soccer with 3 boys, HS soccer is just awful. Technical talent is limited to the good club players, but speed and size are evenly distributed among the good and poor players, so the good players end up being hacked up constantly. It's all long ball, because the players have no hope of possessing the ball more than a few passes. The coaching is poor, the reffing is poor, the fouling is nonstop - it is in general a very bad experience. Would I still want my kids to play HS knowing all that? Yes for all the other reasons metioned, but I would be much more tempered in my expectations.

PP is spot on. I find it very painful to watch my DD's HS team play (and I worry about all the fouling that is not called).

After seeing a couple of her HS games I long to watch her high level club team play. Like night and day.

Several players on my DD's team play on top club teams, but you wouldn't know it watching them play. It's highlighted to me the importance of a good coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't St. Albans play against WIS anymore? Wasn't that a great rivalry for a few years?

Agreed, a spirited rivalry between 2 always excellent teams. Classic case of helicopter parents who were frightened by a horde of preppy males chanting loudly (for sure), sometimes cleverly, sometimes not, and one of these chants perceived to be politically incorrect, which was (and still is), debatable.

Rather than using the incident as a teaching moment highlighting things like understanding different perspectives, a decision was made to avoid the problem and essentially cut off diplomatic relations.

Pity. Was a lot of fun for the teams and the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't St. Albans play against WIS anymore? Wasn't that a great rivalry for a few years?

Agreed, a spirited rivalry between 2 always excellent teams. Classic case of helicopter parents who were frightened by a horde of preppy males chanting loudly (for sure), sometimes cleverly, sometimes not, and one of these chants perceived to be politically incorrect, which was (and still is), debatable.

Rather than using the incident as a teaching moment highlighting things like understanding different perspectives, a decision was made to avoid the problem and essentially cut off diplomatic relations.

Pity. Was a lot of fun for the teams and the kids.

I was at Georgetown a couple of years ago to watch the girls DCSAA finals and stayed to watch the boys game. I had to move my seat because of crazy WIS parents losing it (loudly and continuously). It was a small subset and some other WIS parents looked embarrassed but it made enough of an impression that I remember it. (I also remember a WIS player getting a red card for literally jumping into the opposing student section to taunt them after WIS scored.). So maybe the two schools thought the temperature was too high. Not the worst decision when the emphasis is meant to be on the soccer, not a clash of fan bases.

[Anonymous]

Big game for the Little Hoyas today against perennials St Albans. Winner should battle Landon for the IAC banner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Big game for the Little Hoyas today against perennials St Albans. Winner should battle Landon for the IAC banner.

How many committed players are on Prep, Landon and Sta teams?