Private School Soccer Thread

[Anonymous]

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Having watched a lot of club and HS soccer with 3 boys, HS soccer is just awful. Technical talent is limited to the good club players, but speed and size are evenly distributed among the good and poor players, so the good players end up being hacked up constantly. It's all long ball, because the players have no hope of possessing the ball more than a few passes. The coaching is poor, the reffing is poor, the fouling is nonstop - it is in general a very bad experience. Would I still want my kids to play HS knowing all that? Yes for all the other reasons metioned, but I would be much more tempered in my expectations.

Nail. Head. You hit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Landon must be pretty damn good this year.

STA historically is a very good soccer program if not one of the best in DC.

Sounds like the game was not even close with Landon leading 3-0 at halftime.

Landon is great this year. For STA, I think we are seeing the beginning of a downward trend in the program. The current seniors are the last group who came in under the old AD, who happens to have been the head soccer coach. The current AD is a Yalie laxer. Perhaps not coincidentally, last year's lacrosse team had its best record in years. No dog in this fight, but it does seem unfair that one person can design admissions in this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Wow - for the most part (with a handful of exceptions) those are pretty undesirable colleges. Why committ all that time effort and money to a sport that can't even help you get into a top college?

You must have very high standards if Haverford, Swarthmore, Wisconsin, Princeton, Georgetown, Cornell, Hamilton, Oberlin, William and Mary, and Penn are all "pretty undesirable." Those are from the Bethesda list. You also must be pretty green if you think that all academy-level athletes have the academic record for Princeton or Swarthmore; for those of us who are better acquainted with the idea that students display a wide range of academic abilities/achievement, it's not at all surprising that many athletes go to U MD, Gettysburg, or Penn State (examples from the Bethesda list), at which students can still get an excellent education.

Not to mention that you are not going to be getting any athletic money from an Ivy league school or any DIII school. Also, this is probably a foreign world to a lot of the posters on this thread, but many of these kids actually hope to go pro when they are done with college. To have any hope, you need to go to a school with a strong soccer program. Maryland has an excellent record of preparing players to go pro. If you go to Harvard, you are giving up that dream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Wow - for the most part (with a handful of exceptions) those are pretty undesirable colleges. Why committ all that time effort and money to a sport that can't even help you get into a top college?

You must have very high standards if Haverford, Swarthmore, Wisconsin, Princeton, Georgetown, Cornell, Hamilton, Oberlin, William and Mary, and Penn are all "pretty undesirable." Those are from the Bethesda list. You also must be pretty green if you think that all academy-level athletes have the academic record for Princeton or Swarthmore; for those of us who are better acquainted with the idea that students display a wide range of academic abilities/achievement, it's not at all surprising that many athletes go to U MD, Gettysburg, or Penn State (examples from the Bethesda list), at which students can still get an excellent education.

The Bethesda list was the best, by far. Take a look at the other lists. As for the schools you name above, my student athlete would not find any but Princeton, G'town, Cornell and W&M acceptable.

It seems weird that W&M would be acceptable as a college, but Swarthmore or Penn would not. Swarthmore and Penn are both clearly better academically.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Wow - for the most part (with a handful of exceptions) those are pretty undesirable colleges. Why committ all that time effort and money to a sport that can't even help you get into a top college?

You must have very high standards if Haverford, Swarthmore, Wisconsin, Princeton, Georgetown, Cornell, Hamilton, Oberlin, William and Mary, and Penn are all "pretty undesirable." Those are from the Bethesda list. You also must be pretty green if you think that all academy-level athletes have the academic record for Princeton or Swarthmore; for those of us who are better acquainted with the idea that students display a wide range of academic abilities/achievement, it's not at all surprising that many athletes go to U MD, Gettysburg, or Penn State (examples from the Bethesda list), at which students can still get an excellent education.

The Bethesda list was the best, by far. Take a look at the other lists. As for the schools you name above, my student athlete would not find any but Princeton, G'town, Cornell and W&M acceptable.

You sound like quite the snob.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Wow - for the most part (with a handful of exceptions) those are pretty undesirable colleges. Why committ all that time effort and money to a sport that can't even help you get into a top college?

You must have very high standards if Haverford, Swarthmore, Wisconsin, Princeton, Georgetown, Cornell, Hamilton, Oberlin, William and Mary, and Penn are all "pretty undesirable." Those are from the Bethesda list. You also must be pretty green if you think that all academy-level athletes have the academic record for Princeton or Swarthmore; for those of us who are better acquainted with the idea that students display a wide range of academic abilities/achievement, it's not at all surprising that many athletes go to U MD, Gettysburg, or Penn State (examples from the Bethesda list), at which students can still get an excellent education.

The Bethesda list was the best, by far. Take a look at the other lists. As for the schools you name above, my student athlete would not find any but Princeton, G'town, Cornell and W&M acceptable.

Well, guess that speaks for itself, but I'm certain it says more about you than it does about your kid. Good luck to your "student athlete" on meeting his/her mom's acceptability standards over the next few decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Academy players typically get recruited to play at the college level?

Almost all of them, from what I've noticed over the last few years. Most who are on the oldest team will go D1, but a few to DIII. Many of the kids who drop out of/get cut from the DA after their sophomore or junior year end up recruited to DIII schools as well.

Here's DC United's list from last year: https://www.dcunited.com/post/2017/01/31/12-united-academy-players-sign-nli-national-signing-day

Here's Bethesda's, which includes commitments from some of their non-DA teams as well: http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=200237&mid=228230&newskeyid=HN1&newsid=47769&ctl=newsdetail

Here's Baltimore's: http://www.sackick.com/home/baltimore-armour-college-signings/

Typically the rosters for the oldest teams will include a lot of juniors as well, but the clubs don't usually announce their commitments until they are seniors. Some of the players skip college to try to go pro (esp. from DC United).

Wow - for the most part (with a handful of exceptions) those are pretty undesirable colleges. Why committ all that time effort and money to a sport that can't even help you get into a top college?

You must have very high standards if Haverford, Swarthmore, Wisconsin, Princeton, Georgetown, Cornell, Hamilton, Oberlin, William and Mary, and Penn are all "pretty undesirable." Those are from the Bethesda list. You also must be pretty green if you think that all academy-level athletes have the academic record for Princeton or Swarthmore; for those of us who are better acquainted with the idea that students display a wide range of academic abilities/achievement, it's not at all surprising that many athletes go to U MD, Gettysburg, or Penn State (examples from the Bethesda list), at which students can still get an excellent education.

The Bethesda list was the best, by far. Take a look at the other lists. As for the schools you name above, my student athlete would not find any but Princeton, G'town, Cornell and W&M acceptable.

You sound like quite the snob.

or ignorant, the PP probably has no clue what Oberlin is.

[Anonymous]

Oh yikes, didn't see Penn on that list.

and I debated Swathmore because I included W&M so okay, theose two go together. As for Oberlin, you have to be kidding. No fing way.

[Anonymous]

WIS boys lost to GDS in DCSAA tournament. Maybe they were looking past GDS hoping for a grudge match with Saint Albans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WIS boys lost to GDS in DCSAA tournament. Maybe they were looking past GDS hoping for a grudge match with Saint Albans.

Way to go, Grasshoppers! Who else will be playing in the semi-finals?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Having watched a lot of club and HS soccer with 3 boys, HS soccer is just awful. Technical talent is limited to the good club players, but speed and size are evenly distributed among the good and poor players, so the good players end up being hacked up constantly. It's all long ball, because the players have no hope of possessing the ball more than a few passes. The coaching is poor, the reffing is poor, the fouling is nonstop - it is in general a very bad experience. Would I still want my kids to play HS knowing all that? Yes for all the other reasons metioned, but I would be much more tempered in my expectations.

Nail. Head. You hit it.

A comment on the coaching. I think it takes a special kind of talent to coach HS soccer. It's not club - you cannot just keep averaging up your team every year through tryouts (or try to anyway) as you can with club soccer. You have to be able to get the most possible out of mixed pool of talent. Even with recruiting, at best you will have 6 or 8 truly gifted players, and the rest will be kids that won't play soccer after HS. How do you train and have a game plan with that mix of talent? How do you take a kid in 9th grade that maybe has promise but no real training, and get him or her playing like the club players you have that have been focusing on soccer since U5? That is the real trick to success at the HS level.

[Anonymous]

STA plays GDS. Zaga plays Wilson. Finals on Saturday.

[Anonymous]

Zaga v St Albans for the DC championship!

[Anonymous]

How did St. Albans v Wis turn out this year?