Why are the young people non-religious

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


I am looking forward to people of your ilk dying off and being replaced with rational and decent human beings.

Side thought: I guess it must be god's will that people be atheistic, since faith is declining?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:IME - and I say this as an apparently quixotic young person (30) of faith - my peers as children either (a) experienced religion as an oppressive institution that did nothing for their spiritual growth or (b) did not have exposure to religion, and therefore generally do not have a sense of longing for that.

Despite growing up in an atheistic, non-religious household, I always felt called to religion and matters of the spirit. In middle school, I devoured religious (Jewish, Hindu, Christian) texts. I dabbled in Wicca. I joined a UU church at fourteen. I became "born again" at sixteen.

My journey continues, and I accept that I'll never fit into anyone else's religious ideal. I'm a social liberal with an abiding faith in God and love for Jesus. I'm a bisexual reformed slut who now prays with my children and husband at night. I'm a Christian and a yogi. And I'm okay with that.


Most social liberals wouldn't refer to any woman as a "slut," including themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IME - and I say this as an apparently quixotic young person (30) of faith - my peers as children either (a) experienced religion as an oppressive institution that did nothing for their spiritual growth or (b) did not have exposure to religion, and therefore generally do not have a sense of longing for that.

Despite growing up in an atheistic, non-religious household, I always felt called to religion and matters of the spirit. In middle school, I devoured religious (Jewish, Hindu, Christian) texts. I dabbled in Wicca. I joined a UU church at fourteen. I became "born again" at sixteen.

My journey continues, and I accept that I'll never fit into anyone else's religious ideal. I'm a social liberal with an abiding faith in God and love for Jesus. I'm a bisexual reformed slut who now prays with my children and husband at night. I'm a Christian and a yogi. And I'm okay with that.


Most social liberals wouldn't refer to any woman as a "slut," including themselves.


Thanks for the insight. I guess this is just another item reflecting my unpredictability.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Faith does not rationalize slaughtering children. faith realizes there are some things we are not meant to understand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Anything goes- kill them all and believe that it's God's will because someone said so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Anything goes- kill them all and believe that it's God's will because someone said so.


Worse than that, religion removes reason even when there is one. Greed for power and money might have been the cause for the slaughter of people, but religion then says you don't have to understand but just to accept that this was God's will.

This is nonsense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Anything goes- kill them all and believe that it's God's will because someone said so.


Worse than that, religion removes reason even when there is one. Greed for power and money might have been the cause for the slaughter of people, but religion then says you don't have to understand but just to accept that this was God's will.

This is nonsense.


some people find it very compforting to turn over what they con't understand to God
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Anything goes- kill them all and believe that it's God's will because someone said so.


Worse than that, religion removes reason even when there is one. Greed for power and money might have been the cause for the slaughter of people, but religion then says you don't have to understand but just to accept that this was God's will.

This is nonsense.


some people find it very compforting to turn over what they con't understand to God



What's not to understand? Killing people, absent self-defense, is wrong. Not that difficult to grasp. What you're describing as "comfort" is really just choosing not to think about it and avoiding the cognitive dissonance it brings. Sam Harris had a good point and I'm paraphrasing here but the true horror of religion is that it convinces otherwise sane people by the billions to believe what only a lunatic could believe on their own.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are the young people today non-religious? Will this change as they get older and mature?


What turned me away from Christianity was learning it's bloody history in high school. Too much horror done in the name of that and other major religions. No thanks.


God uses humans to do his will. Sometimes blood and horror are needed.


So the church sanctioned killing of millions of innocent people, including children, over the years is God's will?

What kind of psychopaths can rationalize the slaughter of children?


It's not psychopathology -- it's faith.


Anything goes- kill them all and believe that it's God's will because someone said so.


Worse than that, religion removes reason even when there is one. Greed for power and money might have been the cause for the slaughter of people, but religion then says you don't have to understand but just to accept that this was God's will.

This is nonsense.


some people find it very compforting to turn over what they con't understand to God



What's not to understand? Killing people, absent self-defense, is wrong. Not that difficult to grasp. What you're describing as "comfort" is really just choosing not to think about it and avoiding the cognitive dissonance it brings. Sam Harris had a good point and I'm paraphrasing here but the true horror of religion is that it convinces otherwise sane people by the billions to believe what only a lunatic could believe on their own.


Yes, and people do it all the time, not just in matters of religion. Thinking about unpleasant issues can be hard.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you are trying to justify behavior that you know deep down is sinful.
And yeah many of the specific rules in the old testament were fulfilled by the coming of Christ and is why we aren't Jewish
but the bible is the infallible word of God once you start picking and choosing what is relevant and what isn't you are going down a dangerously slippery slope





Once Jesus came along, it gave us permission to disregard things in the old testament that we didn't like and to interpret anything else we didn't like however we liked.


That's a wrong and unfair interpretation of Jesus' own attitude towards the Old Testament, and I suspect you know it.


What did Jesus say about the Old Testament?



Famously, he boils down all the rules in the Gospel of Matthew:
Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

There were also multiple incidents where Jesus ignored Old Testament dietary rules (he said, basically, that it's not what goes into your mouth but what comes out of it) and ritual purification rules (Jesus consorted with people considered "unclean").

In sum, Jesus was quite clear about what was important vs. not important in the Old Testament. It's not a case of "pick and choose" at all.


Wrong. Jesus obeyed the Kosher laws.

https://aleteia.org/2021/07/09/did-jesus-keep-kosher/
Anonymous
I’m not sure why young people aren’t going to church or have favorable views of organized religion.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/05/europe/france-catholic-church-abuse-report-intl/index.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:IME - and I say this as an apparently quixotic young person (30) of faith - my peers as children either (a) experienced religion as an oppressive institution that did nothing for their spiritual growth or (b) did not have exposure to religion, and therefore generally do not have a sense of longing for that.

Despite growing up in an atheistic, non-religious household, I always felt called to religion and matters of the spirit. In middle school, I devoured religious (Jewish, Hindu, Christian) texts. I dabbled in Wicca. I joined a UU church at fourteen. I became "born again" at sixteen.

My journey continues, and I accept that I'll never fit into anyone else's religious ideal. I'm a social liberal with an abiding faith in God and love for Jesus. I'm a bisexual reformed slut who now prays with my children and husband at night. I'm a Christian and a yogi. And I'm okay with that.


Most social liberals wouldn't refer to any woman as a "slut," including themselves.


Thanks for the insight. I guess this is just another item reflecting my unpredictability.


Look at me! I’m so unique!
Anonymous
Because one of the many joys of atheism is not having to reconcile Leviticus 18:22 with our support of LGTBQ.
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