Gifted programs, lack of, in DC

[Anonymous]

I think "gifted" must be a terribly damaging term to label a child based on recent research about what creates kids who will take on challenges and stick with hard problems rather than give up?

I would love it if DC had differentiation for kids who are willing to pay attention and work hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And Moco and Fairfax have 3-4% population qualify yet Janney has 75% that would qualify? My ass! Especially if these are the same kids where only 15% show advanced on PARCC. I'm sorry your "gifted" child that have parents that are college educated, valedictorian, Ivy leaguers should be able to score a 5 on PARCC. Miss me with that 75% gifted bullshit at Janney.

Actually, according to the FFX's AAP program, they have 10 to 15% identified as gifted. MoCo's HGC program has only identified top 2-3%. I suspect the cutoff is very different between those two programs. Wasn't VA's National Merit cut off score slightly lower than MD's last year, too?

So it's a natural jump to assume Janney is 75%? That is literally the funniest thing I've seen on DCUM this year. For a bunch of "smarties" that barely pass PARCC yet alone get "advanced", you guys sound real ignorant.

[Anonymous]

DCPS is gonna be hostile to a program in which the vast majority of participants are white students, while AAs get stuck with the basic stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS is gonna be hostile to a program in which the vast majority of participants are white students, while AAs get stuck with the basic stuff.

Yada, Yada, Yada. Your talking point has been sliced, diced, fried and died. Have you bothered to read the thread? You have said nothing that has not already been said a million different ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS is gonna be hostile to a program in which the vast majority of participants are white students, while AAs get stuck with the basic stuff.

It may be majority white but if it were a true G&T program it would be only 50 kids in each grade if that. Not enough to make it worth anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS is gonna be hostile to a program in which the vast majority of participants are white students, while AAs get stuck with the basic stuff.

Yada, Yada, Yada. Your talking point has been sliced, diced, fried and died. Have you bothered to read the thread? You have said nothing that has not already been said a million different ways.

And? The point remains true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And Moco and Fairfax have 3-4% population qualify yet Janney has 75% that would qualify? My ass! Especially if these are the same kids where only 15% show advanced on PARCC. I'm sorry your "gifted" child that have parents that are college educated, valedictorian, Ivy leaguers should be able to score a 5 on PARCC. Miss me with that 75% gifted bullshit at Janney.

Actually, according to the FFX's AAP program, they have 10 to 15% identified as gifted. MoCo's HGC program has only identified top 2-3%. I suspect the cutoff is very different between those two programs. Wasn't VA's National Merit cut off score slightly lower than MD's last year, too?

So it's a natural jump to assume Janney is 75%? That is literally the funniest thing I've seen on DCUM this year. For a bunch of "smarties" that barely pass PARCC yet alone get "advanced", you guys sound real ignorant.

Uh..no... I was kind of agreeing with you. Neither MCPS nor FCPS's gifted population is anywhere near 75%, I highly doubt Janney or NWDC is even 50%. Reading comprehension fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS is gonna be hostile to a program in which the vast majority of participants are white students, while AAs get stuck with the basic stuff.

Yada, Yada, Yada. Your talking point has been sliced, diced, fried and died. Have you bothered to read the thread? You have said nothing that has not already been said a million different ways.

And? The point remains true.

So you keep saying. Next!

[Anonymous]

Every time I see this post in recent topics I am annoyed by the title. Why didn't OP write "Lack of gifted programs in DC"??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every time I see this post in recent topics I am annoyed by the title. Why didn't OP write "Lack of gifted programs in DC"??

Gifted program, OP didn't have, in her school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And Moco and Fairfax have 3-4% population qualify yet Janney has 75% that would qualify? My ass! Especially if these are the same kids where only 15% show advanced on PARCC. I'm sorry your "gifted" child that have parents that are college educated, valedictorian, Ivy leaguers should be able to score a 5 on PARCC. Miss me with that 75% gifted bullshit at Janney.

Actually, according to the FFX's AAP program, they have 10 to 15% identified as gifted. MoCo's HGC program has only identified top 2-3%. I suspect the cutoff is very different between those two programs. Wasn't VA's National Merit cut off score slightly lower than MD's last year, too?

So it's a natural jump to assume Janney is 75%? That is literally the funniest thing I've seen on DCUM this year. For a bunch of "smarties" that barely pass PARCC yet alone get "advanced", you guys sound real ignorant.

Uh..no... I was kind of agreeing with you. Neither MCPS nor FCPS's gifted population is anywhere near 75%, I highly doubt Janney or NWDC is even 50%. Reading comprehension fail.

I know my first sentence was a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I see this post in recent topics I am annoyed by the title. Why didn't OP write "Lack of gifted programs in DC"??

Gifted program, OP didn't have, in her school

Give OP a break, she comes from Yoda land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I see this post in recent topics I am annoyed by the title. Why didn't OP write "Lack of gifted programs in DC"??

Gifted program, OP didn't have, in her school

Give OP a break, she comes from Yoda land.

Or, she was trying a haiku?

Gifted programs yes
or gifted programs lack
such life in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time I see this post in recent topics I am annoyed by the title. Why didn't OP write "Lack of gifted programs in DC"??

Gifted program, OP didn't have, in her school

Give OP a break, she comes from Yoda land.

Or, she was trying a haiku?

Gifted programs yes
or gifted programs lack
such life in DC

hahaha. Thank you! I will no longer be annoyed by this thread when I see it pop up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think "gifted" must be a terribly damaging term to label a child based on recent research about what creates kids who will take on challenges and stick with hard problems rather than give up?

I would love it if DC had differentiation for kids who are willing to pay attention and work hard.

In fact it does. That is the whole point of in-class differentiation. (And the SEM enrichment model as well). Every child is given the opportunity to work to their "reach" level. For example, a science project will be rather open ended. There are the basics each project must include, but a child can choose their own topic, they find their own resources (with guidance if needed), they choose the difficulty of the final project to show mastery, etc. One kid may choose bear hibernation and use DK books, while another chooses the electroconductivity of bacteria and reads primary research papers (this is not far off from a real ES example). Or an essay is assigned to compare two texts -- the teacher guides the student to choose the texts based on reading level, and while one child may write a three paragraph essay, another may write 10 pages, and yet another may create a video presentation or movie. The teacher takes each child where they are and pushes them to the next level. Mixed with that are also uniform assignments that every child does, but again, each child is guided to work on their areas of difficulty and to push their limits in the areas they find easy.

No labels needed. At our ES and MS, I see this working very well, and the model is far superior to what we had in GaTE when we were growing up.