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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:James and Meg were voted out Thursday night.

Steve won HOH after Thursday's show aired.

He put up Austin and Liz.

Uh, thanks ... ?? This was on last night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:James and Meg were voted out Thursday night.

Steve won HOH after Thursday's show aired.

He put up Austin and Liz.

Uh, thanks ... ?? This was on last night.

Right, I watched it late. No one had commented about Sunday's episode so I updated the thread.

[Anonymous]

Do you think john will take Vanessa or steve to the final 2? Do you think Vanessa could still play both sides? she is pretty smart to figure out to put Austin up and not Julia. Figuring out that Julia can't win anything, but if the twins were up, Austin would fight like hell to win and get Liz off. Sorry everyone, but I'm liking Vanessa more and more. I think she needs to win this thing.

[Anonymous]

John will lose to Vanessa if he takes her to final two. He has a better chance of winning against Steve.

As much as I dislike her at times, Vanessa is a good game player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think john will take Vanessa or steve to the final 2? Do you think Vanessa could still play both sides? she is pretty smart to figure out to put Austin up and not Julia. Figuring out that Julia can't win anything, but if the twins were up, Austin would fight like hell to win and get Liz off. Sorry everyone, but I'm liking Vanessa more and more. I think she needs to win this thing.

I think it's in Vanessa's best interest to get Liz out. Austin is dumb enough to believe that Vanessa didn't screw him over. I think he would still fight for her, if Liz was out.

On the other hand, John always hated Vanessa and I doubt he would take her to final 2, though they do seem to be complete allies now.

I also think Steve is more loyal to John than Vanessa, but it could go either way, really...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:John will lose to Vanessa if he takes her to final two. He has a better chance of winning against Steve.

As much as I dislike her at times, Vanessa is a good game player.

It pains me to say, especially cause she's already wealthy.

But the person who DESERVES to win this year, hands down, is Vanessa. Her strategy has been absolutely masterful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think john will take Vanessa or steve to the final 2? Do you think Vanessa could still play both sides? she is pretty smart to figure out to put Austin up and not Julia. Figuring out that Julia can't win anything, but if the twins were up, Austin would fight like hell to win and get Liz off. Sorry everyone, but I'm liking Vanessa more and more. I think she needs to win this thing.

I think it's in Vanessa's best interest to get Liz out. Austin is dumb enough to believe that Vanessa didn't screw him over. I think he would still fight for her, if Liz was out.

On the other hand, John always hated Vanessa and I doubt he would take her to final 2, though they do seem to be complete allies now.

I also think Steve is more loyal to John than Vanessa, but it could go either way, really...

Not so sure about that. they thought they convinced Austin to throw the comp and even though he said he would, he was smart enough to figure out that with so few folks in the house, there's bound to be some back stabbing. the twins are the dumb ones. To be so utterly shocked that Steve would still be on their team when he's the bottom of the hierarchy in that alliance is pretty dumb. They should have figured that the other three would form their own group.

[Anonymous]

The twins are everything I hate. *whine* why would he put us upppppp? We never didn anything to him (except put him on the block). Whiiiiiiiiine whiiiiiiiiine. All we ever did was be nice to him and act like he wasn't a socially awkward weirdo." Whine whine whine. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:John will lose to Vanessa if he takes her to final two. He has a better chance of winning against Steve.

As much as I dislike her at times, Vanessa is a good game player.

It pains me to say, especially cause she's already wealthy.

But the person who DESERVES to win this year, hands down, is Vanessa. Her strategy has been absolutely masterful.

i tried explaining this (pains me also) to my sis and BIL. like when it comes down to it usually the jurors have been fair. even to people they've despised. cannot stand her but she's playing the best game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:John will lose to Vanessa if he takes her to final two. He has a better chance of winning against Steve.

As much as I dislike her at times, Vanessa is a good game player.

It pains me to say, especially cause she's already wealthy.

But the person who DESERVES to win this year, hands down, is Vanessa. Her strategy has been absolutely masterful.

i tried explaining this (pains me also) to my sis and BIL. like when it comes down to it usually the jurors have been fair. even to people they've despised. cannot stand her but she's playing the best game.

I also agree with this and it happens regularly on BB and Survivor. No one likes the ultimate winner, but they begrudgingly respect their game. If Vanessa makes it to the end she can and should win. Neither twin will win because they had an unfair advantage (and why no one has tried to split them up before is beyond me - they have a double vote!) Johnny has a shot if he can make it far enough and takes Steve and not Vanessa.

[Anonymous]

Austin won the veto, the twins are on the block tonight, who goes home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Austin won the veto, the twins are on the block tonight, who goes home?

They should obviously send Liz home be she is better and comps and Austin is more loyal to her.

[Anonymous]

Who else thinks Liz went crawling back into bed with Austin to try and convince him to use the veto on her?

[Anonymous]

Vanessa obviously should win the game if it were based on strategy.

I am not sure I understand this whole plan about putting Austin and Liz on the block rather than Julia. They said it was because Julia had less of a chance to win a comp. Okay fine, and if Austin or Liz won Steve would replace either with Liz.

I don't get the math. Why would it be better if Liz or Austin won the veto than the one NOT on the block? If Julia HAD won the veto (and taken Liz off the block) wouldn't Steve have just replaced her with Julia? Wouldn't it always result in two of those three being on the block after the veto?

Or is it that the HoH is not allowed to replace the person with the one who won the veto? (ie, if Julia had won Steve would have had to replace Liz with Vanessa or Johnny Mac)...If that's true, then I don't get the argument that Johnny Mac gave once at the veto meeting that he didn't want to use the veto because he wasn't sure he wouldn't go up instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vanessa obviously should win the game if it were based on strategy.

I am not sure I understand this whole plan about putting Austin and Liz on the block rather than Julia. They said it was because Julia had less of a chance to win a comp. Okay fine, and if Austin or Liz won Steve would replace either with Liz.

I don't get the math. Why would it be better if Liz or Austin won the veto than the one NOT on the block? If Julia HAD won the veto (and taken Liz off the block) wouldn't Steve have just replaced her with Julia? Wouldn't it always result in two of those three being on the block after the veto?

Or is it that the HoH is not allowed to replace the person with the one who won the veto? (ie, if Julia had won Steve would have had to replace Liz with Vanessa or Johnny Mac)...If that's true, then I don't get the argument that Johnny Mac gave once at the veto meeting that he didn't want to use the veto because he wasn't sure he wouldn't go up instead.

The person that won the veto can't be put up. So Liz and austin (or at least Liz) wanted Julia to win it so she couldn't be put up.