So what's the RIGHT answer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know the right answer after you die. Be patient.

This is only true if some form of afterlife exists. If death is just a biological thing, you will never know.

It says so right in the Bible.

Hate to break it to you. But just because the Bible says so doesn't make it factual. Everyone picks and chooses what they believe is factual in the Bible. Very few people believe everything said in the Bible is fact. In fact, almost no one does.

[Anonymous]

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

Believers don't have to choose. They can have both: facts at work and at school, and faith at church and at home. Facts and logic will take you far in this world, but it takes faith to get into heaven.

Just because Jesus is not the only or the first dying and rising god doesn't mean he isn't the real thing. Just because you didn't learn about the other ones in Sunday school, doesn't mean the teachers were trying to hide something or trick you. Probably they didn't know themselves, or they thought little kids wouldn't be ready for that kind of information. It takes maturity and adult faith to process some information that doesn't add up logically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

The common usage these days is BCE (before the common era) and CE (the common era)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

The common usage these days is BCE (before the common era) and CE (the common era)

BCE can also mean Before the CHRISTIAN Era . . .

On this rabid thread of believers, why not throw in a Christ or two?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

Believers don't have to choose. They can have both: facts at work and at school, and faith at church and at home. Facts and logic will take you far in this world, but it takes faith to get into heaven.

Just because Jesus is not the only or the first dying and rising god doesn't mean he isn't the real thing. Just because you didn't learn about the other ones in Sunday school, doesn't mean the teachers were trying to hide something or trick you. Probably they didn't know themselves, or they thought little kids wouldn't be ready for that kind of information. It takes maturity and adult faith to process some information that doesn't add up logically.

no

You still don't get it.

Myths are myths are myths are myths . . . and so on.

Your halo's too tight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

Believers don't have to choose. They can have both: facts at work and at school, and faith at church and at home. Facts and logic will take you far in this world, but it takes faith to get into heaven.

Just because Jesus is not the only or the first dying and rising god doesn't mean he isn't the real thing. Just because you didn't learn about the other ones in Sunday school, doesn't mean the teachers were trying to hide something or trick you. Probably they didn't know themselves, or they thought little kids wouldn't be ready for that kind of information. It takes maturity and adult faith to process some information that doesn't add up logically.

no

You still don't get it.

Myths are myths are myths are myths . . . and so on.

Your halo's too tight.

Mithras is a myth. Christ is real, for faithful Christians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

The common usage these days is BCE (before the common era) and CE (the common era)

BCE can also mean Before the CHRISTIAN Era . . .

On this rabid thread of believers, why not throw in a Christ or two?

It could also mean the Catfish era or the Criminy era, but it doesn't. It means the common era

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What the Atheist poster doesn't get, is that nothing will shake the faith of a true believer.

Now it's true that some atheists were once believers themselves, but they were obviously not as firm in their beliefs as pp or they'd still be believers. Facts, logic, evidence may be useful in other aspects of believers' lives, but not when it comes to religious faith. True believers don't even check information to see if it's believable, because their faith has insulated them upfront from any anything antithetical to their beliefs having any lasting effect. They may doubt for a while -- a little doubt is natural -- but it doesn't last for the person with true faith.

There are a few atheists on this thread, Godly one.

Again, if you look at myths from BC(before CHRIST - ha!), you'll see the same themes again and again. virgin births, death and resurrection, speaking in tongues, etc.

Look up Mithraic Mysteries.

faith vs facts
I choose the latter.

Believers don't have to choose. They can have both: facts at work and at school, and faith at church and at home. Facts and logic will take you far in this world, but it takes faith to get into heaven.

Just because Jesus is not the only or the first dying and rising god doesn't mean he isn't the real thing. Just because you didn't learn about the other ones in Sunday school, doesn't mean the teachers were trying to hide something or trick you. Probably they didn't know themselves, or they thought little kids wouldn't be ready for that kind of information. It takes maturity and adult faith to process some information that doesn't add up logically.

no

You still don't get it.

Myths are myths are myths are myths . . . and so on.

Your halo's too tight.

Mithras is a myth. Christ is real, for faithful Christians

The Romans were around before Christ became this popular figure.

You're in denial if you think Christ isn't an extension of that pagan belief system. You are, in fact, a Mithraist.

Read up on the myths, my friend. Your Christian religion is nothing more than pagan beliefs! lol

[Anonymous]

This is why I choose Jesus



http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTFNfeDnE

[Anonymous]

Mithraism took hold in the Roman Empire, largely among the military, in the first century AD until about the fourth century AD. From the rvidence it is perfectly plausible that Mithraism borrowed from Christianity, rather than the reverse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The Romans were around before Christ became this popular figure.

You're in denial if you think Christ isn't an extension of that pagan belief system. You are, in fact, a Mithraist.

Read up on the myths, my friend. Your Christian religion is nothing more than pagan beliefs! lol

Gosh, it must be so frustrating to be you. To be so positive you're right, and that correlation = causation. And it must make you so upset that people don't buy your argument, that correlation = causation.

Even worse, when someone like 15:24 comes along and points out that the link could easily have gone the other way.

So frustrating for you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The Romans were around before Christ became this popular figure.

You're in denial if you think Christ isn't an extension of that pagan belief system. You are, in fact, a Mithraist.

Read up on the myths, my friend. Your Christian religion is nothing more than pagan beliefs! lol

Gosh, it must be so frustrating to be you. To be so positive you're right, and that correlation = causation. And it must make you so upset that people don't buy your argument, that correlation = causation.

Even worse, when someone like 15:24 comes along and points out that the link could easily have gone the other way.

So frustrating for you!

I am not frustrated at all.

But perhaps 15:24 can find a source other than the Catholic Encyclopedia to support his/her answer.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10402a.htm




http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism

something simple for you:

In an ironic twist, the Cybele cult flourished on today's Vatican Hill. Cybele's lover Attis, was born of a virgin, died and was reborn annually. This spring festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday, rising to a crescendo after three days, in rejoicing over the resurrection. There was violent conflict on Vatican Hill in the early days of Christianity between the Jesus worshippers and pagans who quarrelled over whose God was the true, and whose the imitation. What is interesting to note here is that in the ancient world, wherever you had popular resurrected god myths, Christianity found lots of converts. So, eventually Christianity came to an accommodation with the pagan Spring festival. Although we see no celebration of Easter in the New Testament, early church fathers celebrated it, and today many churches are offering "sunrise services" at Easter – an obvious pagan solar celebration. The date of Easter is not fixed, but instead is governed by the phases of the moon – how pagan is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mithraism took hold in the Roman Empire, largely among the military, in the first century AD until about the fourth century AD. From the rvidence it is perfectly plausible that Mithraism borrowed from Christianity, rather than the reverse.

Mithraism originated in ancient Persia, long before Rome. What you suggest is not plausible. Plus, there are other dying and rising gods besides Mithras which also preceded Christianity. But none of this matters to the person of faith. They don't need to prove their religion is accurate based on historical information. They know it is right in their heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mithraism took hold in the Roman Empire, largely among the military, in the first century AD until about the fourth century AD. From the rvidence it is perfectly plausible that Mithraism borrowed from Christianity, rather than the reverse.

Mithraism originated in ancient Persia, long before Rome. What you suggest is not plausible. Plus, there are other dying and rising gods besides Mithras which also preceded Christianity. But none of this matters to the person of faith. They don't need to prove their religion is accurate based on historical information. They know it is right in their heart.

Intelligent people of faith will accept logic as long as it supports their faith or doesn't interfere with it. But if facts start to threaten faith, then the person of faith turns away and protects their faith -- a gift from God that promises eternal life.