What are CS majors going to do...

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

Cough...MAGA

Yep. Likely graduated from a podunk college..Liberty or something. Jealous much?

Why isn't this poster banned yet? Maybe give them time out.

Ban them because they’re not a liberal?

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

At UMD, all Computer Science majors must complete 12 credit hours of 300-400 level courses in one discipline outside of Computer Science. My kid is obtaining minors in philosophy and math.

these are pretty basic requirements. 12 hours? minors dont mean much

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

At UMD, all Computer Science majors must complete 12 credit hours of 300-400 level courses in one discipline outside of Computer Science. My kid is obtaining minors in philosophy and math.

these are pretty basic requirements. 12 hours? minors dont mean much

Great!

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

Exactly. Mine was a history and stat major. Got an entry offer at Goldman Sachs.

Tons of CS majors work for Goldman or McKinsey or hedge funds. Like 50% of CS and engineering majors at top schools go these routes.

It’s odd that people claim the sky is falling if all CS majors don’t work directly in CS…yet less than 5% of English or History majors ever work as Historians or English professors or Book editors or anything directly in their field of study.

lol well stated.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t recently graduated CS majors have one of the highest unemployment rates?

yes, over subscribed, and people went into it who aren't really good at it, and probably don't like it that much. Lots of boys, especially went into it because they didn't know what else to do.

Those who like CS and have known this is what they wanted to do since they were younger and are good at it are doing ok.

But, it's true that just knowing how to code is not going to get you much these days. You need to bring something else to do the table, like, do you know how to weave AI well into programming?

Also, CS is not just coding.

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Anonymous wrote:What are any major going to do...

I guess some posters think being an English major is the way to go, as if AI can't replace writers faster than it can replace software programmers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anthropic-president-ai-humanities-majors-more-important-2026-2#:~:text=Follow%20Henry%20Chandonnet,she%20said%20on%20ABC%20News.

Anthropic president Daniela Amodei said that AI was making humanities majors "more important than ever."
Amodei was a literature major. She told ABC News that she prizes "the things that make us human."
"At the end of the day, people still really like interacting with people," she said.

wait, so you have one humanities major in AI saying this, but I posted a link about how some tech companies are growing their entry level, but that doesn't matter? Where's the critical thinking skills here.

She doesn't regret her English major because she's now wealthy. How many English majors wish that they had picked a more marketable major compared to CS majors? Granted, I think too many people jumped on the CS bandwagon because they thought that was an easy avenue to get a good paying job, but I bet a lot of these people don't enjoy what they do, and at the end of the day, probably aren't that good at it.

Do you understand what exactly she's saying here? She's saying that humanities majors are still important, not that AI companies want to hire them.

things that make us human will become much more important,.. Amodei listed some things that make us human: understanding ourselves, our history, and what makes us tick.

Sure, we still need humanities majors, but she's not saying those majors will be able to get good paying jobs.

Look at the open jobs out there. How many tech companies are looking for humanities majors?

There are many threads about this on this forum. Please do searches and read. I am a recruiter for a major tech firm. You must not be in the field or from overseas. Many tech giant CEOs are also saying the same thing, they’re hiring more humanities majors with the strong critical thinking, writing, communication skills. There are many examples on this forum of kids graduating over the years with non STEM majors getting high paying jobs at the tech/consulting/banking firms (majors like history, IR, econ, poli sci, etc) wake up. Many many Fortune 500 CEOs have humanities majors.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40440952/why-this-tech-ceo-keeps-hiring-humanities-majors

https://thewayofimprovement.blog/2017/02/18/mark-cuban-dont-go-to-college-to-study-business-study-the-humanities/

Prominent Fortune 500 CEOs with Humanities Degrees:
Brian Moynihan (Bank of America): History
Alex Karp (Palantir): Philosophy
Michael Eisner (Former Disney): English Literature & Theater
Kenneth Chenault (Former American Express): History
Lloyd Blankfein (Former Goldman Sachs): History
Mark Parker (Nike): Political Science
Brian Cornell (Target): Political Science
Gail Boudreaux (Anthem): Psychology/Sociology

I've worked in tech in the SV for 20 years. Tech has its ebbs and flow. I lived through the dotcom bomb when lots of people got laid off. Guess what? New tech emerged, some of which made other jobs pretty much obsolete, and they hired like crazy.

The industry is definitely shifting, and long gone are the days of getting a six figure job in CS right out of college for a large chunk of grads (there are still some of these people,btw), but it's not the doom and gloom you are suggesting.

Do you know what most of those CEOs have in common? They are not CEOs of tech firms (except for one), and they have graduate degrees. No one said you can't be a CEO of a company without a tech degree, btw. Also, how many people do you think make it as CEOs, even people with a tech background. Such nonsense.

Sure, major in PS or English, then pay more $$$ to get an MBA.

You know what the CEO of Nvidia said? Go major in physical sciences because that's the next wave of generative AI.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/18/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-study-field-computer-science-software-gpu-alexnet-generative-physical-ai-university.html

Here's what CEO of Open AI Altman said:

The best time to get into computer science is right now...

But obviously, he doesn't mean basic software programming.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-openai-best-accidental-career-advice-computer-science-2025-11

And here's what the godfather of AI said:

the “godfather of AI,” Geoffrey Hinton, argues that a CS degree remains uniquely valuable. And you might be making a mistake by skipping it altogether...

Hinton’s core point: a CS degree isn’t only about writing lines of code. It’s about building deep foundations in mathematics, statistics, systems thinking, and conceptual clarity, all of which no AI can replicate (yet).

https://www.interviewquery.com/p/cs-degree-vs-ai-major-geoffrey-hinton

As stated earlier, "entry level" for SWE is changing, and younger people are in a better position to adapt than older people. Colleges are starting to offer AI majors.

Jensen also included liberal arts in his comments.

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang advises that the future of AI requires skills beyond coding, often recommending the study of physical sciences, engineering, and the liberal arts to foster critical thinking, creativity, and systems understanding. He argues that as AI automates programming, expertise in "how the world works" is more valuable.

Math is a liberal art, and my kid is a dual math/CS major focusing on ML. They had five offers.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

Some people just aren’t intelligent enough to do STEM. In fact, people good at STEM understand the world much better than their counterpart because it’s positively correlated with general intelligence.

It's true. STEM is much harder than humanities. That's why STEM teachers and STEM oriented jobs generally get paid more.

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Anonymous wrote:In recruiting sessions, my CS major is told over and over, we don't care what you majored in, we don't even look at that, we are going to trian you anyway. They just want smart, educated people who can think and work hard.

Recruiting sessions for what?

1000000000+. DCUM parents with their STEM only mindset need to freaking wake up.

Asian parents…..because they wouldn’t be here otherwise. It is all that they know and understand.

Excuse me? I am an asian parent. I majored in philosophy in addition to a stem. Check your racism.

They have convinced themselves that their kids don't actually need to study the hard things to be successful and they resent us reminding them that they are lazy parents for raising their children to be intellectually lazy.

Asians are the majority of humans on this planet, trying to pigeonhole us with a stereotype like that is just wild.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

History doesn't give you soft skills. History gives you perspective.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

History doesn't give you soft skills. History gives you perspective.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again.

STEM majors are more likely to have better knowledge in history than humanities majors because they’re generally more intellectually curious. That has been my observation.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

History doesn't give you soft skills. History gives you perspective.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again.

STEM majors are more likely to have better knowledge in history than humanities majors because they’re generally more intellectually curious. That has been my observation.

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This is only news because in the past, CS jobs were plentiful and paid well. Things have changed, obviously, but that doesn't mean CS is dead.

Some MBA grads from MIT, NW, Harvard etc. are having a hard time finding jobs. Should kids not go to MIT or NW for an MBA anymore? This is only big news because in the past, it was easier for them to find jobs.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/mba-grads-from-top-schools-struggling-to-find-work-report/487846

The economy sucks (thanks Trump), and companies have pulled back on hiring. But, these things are cyclical. CS is far from dead. It's just different, just like it changed during my tenure in the tech industry.

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Anonymous wrote:First off, what is AI doing besides sorting through natural language and patching together words and numbers? Thats it.

Oh boy. If you believe this, you are in deep trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

History doesn't give you soft skills. History gives you perspective.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again.

STEM majors are more likely to have better knowledge in history than humanities majors because they’re generally more intellectually curious. That has been my observation.

Funny…stupid and clueless but funny.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid says there's a big movement to hard and soft skills. so history and data science double major. or Econ and philosophy.

How’s history gonna give you more soft skills? Unless you’re talking about being brainwashed is a soft skill?

History doesn't give you soft skills. History gives you perspective.

It's all happened before and it will all happen again.

STEM majors are more likely to have better knowledge in history than humanities majors because they’re generally more intellectually curious. That has been my observation.

So absurdly funny and inaccurate…assuming this is a troll.