Why are WASP so elite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps they don't want to give out Ivy-tier signaling.

Most of these second tier LACs are where wealthy Americans would send their kids generation after generation. They care about education quality, kids get great education at these places but at the same time is not cutthroat.

The kids will go to great med schools law schools and PhD after graduation, and become good doctors, lawyers, and scholars. Quietly raise their next generation of kids.

Then repeat the cycle.

Immigrant parents don't care about these schools. American wealthy don't want them to care either.

Spot on except for the second tier part. They aren’t second tier at all, they are just quiet and understated. The NESCAC schools for example do not talk about rankings by agreement. And, they do not talk about the fact that they do not talk about rankings.

It is a case of IYKYK.

More like DYKNYD

[Anonymous]

PP summed it up best. Long term hold on AWSP-B, buy Davidson and hold Wesleyan and Holy Cross. The Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury crowd is buying time with horrible non diverse rural locations. Turn the lights off on Conn College and Trinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP summed it up best. Long term hold on AWSP-B, buy Davidson and hold Wesleyan and Holy Cross. The Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury crowd is buying time with horrible non diverse rural locations. Turn the lights off on Conn College and Trinity.

Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Holy Cross has decent outcomes and is a great backup for kids who can't get into NESCACs, BC, G'Town, ND, Villanova, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Midd Supreme Court clerks probably fetch coffee for Holy Cross grad Clarence Thomas.😃

Having Clarence Thomas as an alum is a strike against HC.

[Anonymous]

The 2nd tier NESCAS-Middlebury, Colby, and Hamilton add in Colgate can’t beat the 2 big trends in college admissions kids are flocking South(Duke and Vandy are extremely hot schools add in SEC schools) and schools in or near attractive cities(NYC and Boston). The Midd/Hamilton/Colgate schools were traditionally sweet spot for the Waspy families from boarding schools that couldn’t get into an Ivy or Williams/Amherst. That demographic has disappeared and a more diverse US isn’t interested in $95k a year tiny schools in Vermont and Maine.

[Anonymous]

half right Holy Cross has phenomenal outcomes and is a backup for Gtown and ND. The outcomes from Nova and BC are mixed unless you want to be a nurse or teacher where they excel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2nd tier NESCAS-Middlebury, Colby, and Hamilton add in Colgate can’t beat the 2 big trends in college admissions kids are flocking South(Duke and Vandy are extremely hot schools add in SEC schools) and schools in or near attractive cities(NYC and Boston). The Midd/Hamilton/Colgate schools were traditionally sweet spot for the Waspy families from boarding schools that couldn’t get into an Ivy or Williams/Amherst. That demographic has disappeared and a more diverse US isn’t interested in $95k a year tiny schools in Vermont and Maine.

The first-tier NESCACs are Amherst and Williams. The second-tier NECACS are Bowdoin, Wesleyan, and Middlebury. The third tier are Colby, Bates, and Hamilton. The fourth tier are Trinity and Con College. I left out Tufts because it's a national university.

They've been around for 200+ years and have weathered plenty of storms. They'll all be just fine. They'll just need to adapt, which they've done before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:half right Holy Cross has phenomenal outcomes and is a backup for Gtown and ND. The outcomes from Nova and BC are mixed unless you want to be a nurse or teacher where they excel.

Nova and BC blow HC out of the water when it comes to the stats of incoming students.

[Anonymous]

WalletHub 2026 career outcomes ranks Holy Cross 8th ahead of Amherst, Swarthmore, and Pomona.

[Anonymous]

Nice try but vast majority of kid don’t report test scores at those 3 schools. Nova and BC have done a decent job in last 20 years transitioning from commuter schools

[Anonymous]

Would put Amherst, Williams and Bowoin in tier 1, Wesleyan, Hamilton, Middlebury, and Colby in tier 2. Bates, Trinity, and Conn College at the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would put Amherst, Williams and Bowoin in tier 1, Wesleyan, Hamilton, Middlebury, and Colby in tier 2. Bates, Trinity, and Conn College at the bottom.

Bowdoin isn't tier one, and Colby isn't tier two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2nd tier NESCAS-Middlebury, Colby, and Hamilton add in Colgate can’t beat the 2 big trends in college admissions kids are flocking South(Duke and Vandy are extremely hot schools add in SEC schools) and schools in or near attractive cities(NYC and Boston). The Midd/Hamilton/Colgate schools were traditionally sweet spot for the Waspy families from boarding schools that couldn’t get into an Ivy or Williams/Amherst. That demographic has disappeared and a more diverse US isn’t interested in $95k a year tiny schools in Vermont and Maine.

Midd and Colgate both among the highest percentage of 1%ers in the country. Per NYT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WalletHub 2026 career outcomes ranks Holy Cross 8th ahead of Amherst, Swarthmore, and Pomona.

Where does it put midd?