MLS Next Announcement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The plan is to change MLSNext to August in 2 years.

The kids on the MLSNext’s clubs’ u12 teams have been clubs’ “A” team players for the past 2-4 years. They have been with the clubs” “A” team coaches for the past 2-4 years. You can’t snap your fingers and make the kids born in August - December automatically better than the kids who have been on the “A” team
for 2-4 years.

Now, this year’s u10 kids? Yep. By switching the younger age groups to the August date the Q4 kids will get sorted out. They will be the best “A” team kids in a couple of years and MLSNext will change to the August date.

Yes - they should say that is what they are doing. But, if you did so you would be confirming the obvious that birthdate matters a huge amount.

Can you post a link to that MLS Next internal document showing the change in 2 years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:U12 Q4 kid. Between 2nd and 3rd team. love our club which is MLS, not their fault, but we will now look to move to ECNL. My guess is MLS is gonna have to keep figuring things out and it's not worth potentially wasting a year or two while they do it.

Every Q4 kid will make an attempt to move to an ECNL National team. 1st team is ALWAYS the clubs priority

Every kid that wants to play pro will do MLSN1 or MLSN2 and try to get noticed by a MLS1 team. ECNL players will start getting ignored soon.

Any June-Dec player who wants to play in college will go ECNL with this decision. Those June-Dc who want to go pro will try for MLS BY--but won't stay with Next 2 if they can't make Next 1 because there is now no longer a pathway to 1 given off cycle ages. Pathway was a farce. All those clubs that jumped on the Next 2 bandwagon got bamboozled...

Yet to be seen. This is just ECNL homer-ism and trying to attack MLSN's direct competitor on age in the near term -- because it DOESN'T want to be that.

It’s funny you think parents with kids playing in ecnl care what MLSN does. Very sad if they even give it a second thought.

People discussing here have kids with different birthdays playing (likely) premlsnext or hope to be on the MLSN path later. Kids currently playing u13 and up won’t be impacted. The current plan puts kids u11 and younger August-December kids at a huge disadvantage with mlsnext. That’s not debatable, not only are they end of the age range but now playing a year younger than kids they will compete with for HG spots. This isn’t something I’m telling my kid, we will just take each year as it comes and try to get better every day. Nothing we can do about it anyway.

As far as the club perspective, I don’t see how this plan is sustainable for them long term. Not my problem though so I guess we will just see what happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The plan is to change MLSNext to August in 2 years.

The kids on the MLSNext’s clubs’ u12 teams have been clubs’ “A” team players for the past 2-4 years. They have been with the clubs” “A” team coaches for the past 2-4 years. You can’t snap your fingers and make the kids born in August - December automatically better than the kids who have been on the “A” team
for 2-4 years.

Now, this year’s u10 kids? Yep. By switching the younger age groups to the August date the Q4 kids will get sorted out. They will be the best “A” team kids in a couple of years and MLSNext will change to the August date.

Yes - they should say that is what they are doing. But, if you did so you would be confirming the obvious that birthdate matters a huge amount.

Can you post a link to that MLS Next internal document showing the change in 2 years?

MLSN changing to SY in 27/28 was mentioned a few times in earlier threads going back to late summer. I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead.

[Anonymous]

Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The plan is to change MLSNext to August in 2 years.

The kids on the MLSNext’s clubs’ u12 teams have been clubs’ “A” team players for the past 2-4 years. They have been with the clubs” “A” team coaches for the past 2-4 years. You can’t snap your fingers and make the kids born in August - December automatically better than the kids who have been on the “A” team
for 2-4 years.

Now, this year’s u10 kids? Yep. By switching the younger age groups to the August date the Q4 kids will get sorted out. They will be the best “A” team kids in a couple of years and MLSNext will change to the August date.

Yes - they should say that is what they are doing. But, if you did so you would be confirming the obvious that birthdate matters a huge amount.

Can you post a link to that MLS Next internal document showing the change in 2 years?

MLSN changing to SY in 27/28 was mentioned a few times in earlier threads going back to late summer. I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead.

You having a hard time is the proof that a change is happening in 2 years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

Since the stats are the same all over the globe for the percentage of youth players who go Pro, then everything is a joke everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

Are you the parent of a kid playing in MLS Next who wants the cutoff to change from BY to SY?
If yes, why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now there will be school year age MLS 2 teams filled with end of year kids from the older birth year that can probably beat the true birth year MLS 1 teams within the same club. How confusing is that. Say you have a bunch of late birth year 2012s who don’t quite make MLS 1 as 2012s. They will then be on the 2013 MLS 2 team which will probably be better than the 2013 MLS 1 team with all true 2013s bc most or even all of the 2013 MLS 2 team could be born in 2012 🫠

Someone needs to tell you its about individual players development and not team performance

That same someone also needs to tell thousands of coaches and directors obsessed with winning about this, as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The plan is to change MLSNext to August in 2 years.

The kids on the MLSNext’s clubs’ u12 teams have been clubs’ “A” team players for the past 2-4 years. They have been with the clubs” “A” team coaches for the past 2-4 years. You can’t snap your fingers and make the kids born in August - December automatically better than the kids who have been on the “A” team
for 2-4 years.

Now, this year’s u10 kids? Yep. By switching the younger age groups to the August date the Q4 kids will get sorted out. They will be the best “A” team kids in a couple of years and MLSNext will change to the August date.

Yes - they should say that is what they are doing. But, if you did so you would be confirming the obvious that birthdate matters a huge amount.

Can you post a link to that MLS Next internal document showing the change in 2 years?

MLSN changing to SY in 27/28 was mentioned a few times in earlier threads going back to late summer. I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead.

You having a hard time is the proof that a change is happening in 2 years?

You have a hard time with reading comprehension? How does “I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead” mean that I think MLSN is changing in two years?

Let me phrase it differently for you. Changing in two years would imply a plan. I don’t think MLSN has a plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

Since the stats are the same all over the globe for the percentage of youth players who go Pro, then everything is a joke everywhere.

I didn’t say that mls academies are a joke just like EPL academies are not a joke. Labeling anything below professional academies a path to pro is silly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

Since the stats are the same all over the globe for the percentage of youth players who go Pro, then everything is a joke everywhere.

The formula is that they come from very poor backgrounds and don't bright futures. Soccer can take advantage of this group by signing them as early teens. Doesn't work in America, kids aren't that desperate and have brighter futures outside of sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

Since the stats are the same all over the globe for the percentage of youth players who go Pro, then everything is a joke everywhere.

The formula is that they come from very poor backgrounds and don't bright futures. Soccer can take advantage of this group by signing them as early teens. Doesn't work in America, kids aren't that desperate and have brighter futures outside of sports.

There are plenty poor athletic kids in America. Football is a more accessible path.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The plan is to change MLSNext to August in 2 years.

The kids on the MLSNext’s clubs’ u12 teams have been clubs’ “A” team players for the past 2-4 years. They have been with the clubs” “A” team coaches for the past 2-4 years. You can’t snap your fingers and make the kids born in August - December automatically better than the kids who have been on the “A” team
for 2-4 years.

Now, this year’s u10 kids? Yep. By switching the younger age groups to the August date the Q4 kids will get sorted out. They will be the best “A” team kids in a couple of years and MLSNext will change to the August date.

Yes - they should say that is what they are doing. But, if you did so you would be confirming the obvious that birthdate matters a huge amount.

Can you post a link to that MLS Next internal document showing the change in 2 years?

MLSN changing to SY in 27/28 was mentioned a few times in earlier threads going back to late summer. I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead.

You having a hard time is the proof that a change is happening in 2 years?

You have a hard time with reading comprehension? How does “I have a hard time believing MLSN has thought that far ahead” mean that I think MLSN is changing in two years?

Let me phrase it differently for you. Changing in two years would imply a plan. I don’t think MLSN has a plan.

I thought it was silly to change. However, when 97% of the organizations decided to change, I assumed logistically, they would change.

There is going to be so much sorting on the field and “when were you born?” going on. If they would have just went full school year like everybody else, you can build in BY breaks like international breaks where you compile BY teams for play and potential U.S. national team preparing, etc.

It will just be interesting to see how this looks on the ground level. I don’t think they thought this through logistically.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those who are proponents for keeping the HG MLSN BY, are there actual stats on how many players actually turn pro directly from that league vs taking other paths? Seems if this is the reason for separating it from the rest of youth soccer, it would be helpful to know the actual stats.
Since I think most club players who push for the top team/league at their club, college is their main goal, so if college is a main goal/outcome for HG MLSN, it would make the most sense to keep it SY aligned with the rest of the leagues right? This separation seems more appropriate for an actual MLS academy imo not just your local club’s top team….

The numbers going pro from mls academies are incredibly small. MLS 1 p2p being a pro pathway is an absolute joke, apparently just like mlsn2 being a pathway to mls1.

Since the stats are the same all over the globe for the percentage of youth players who go Pro, then everything is a joke everywhere.

The formula is that they come from very poor backgrounds and don't bright futures. Soccer can take advantage of this group by signing them as early teens. Doesn't work in America, kids aren't that desperate and have brighter futures outside of sports.

The fact there are so many Olympic Medalists from the USA who come from economic Middle to Upper Class families throws water on your theory

Add to that all the professional and Olympic athletes in every sport internationally who's parents were (rich) professionals

You don't have to be poor to have drive, motivation, talent and discipline