Did your DC apply to a LAC with ED (or ED1)?

[Anonymous]

… and one more ED 1 to Middlebury:

1510
3.93 UW
Solid school-level ECs

Good luck to all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Occidental
Female
3.85 UW
Test Optional
Undecided
Standard Strong ECs (Varsity sport co-captain, job, etc.)

Hope to see your DD there! Our DS is also applying ED2.

Male
3.7 UW (slow start but upward trajectory & great rigor)
TO
Diplomacy/World Affairs
Good ECs aligned to major

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not recalculating anything. You asked/doubled down on source for 18 QB and I provided it. YW!

That’s not a source. It is a news article. CDS will still likely include them in ED.

nope. at no school is qb included in ED. it's a separate process and it's thrown into RD numbers.

Why do you say that when the schools themselves include them in ED results

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Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

Why would 1500-1600 not move the needle at all in Dartmouth? If the GPA is such where the trajectory is up (PP said lower in grade 9 only) the high SAT score should be validating of his upward GPA trajectory.

Everyone on here is so negative.

* Williams (not Dartmouth). PP here, that was typed by mistake!

Can you read? Williams: 45% of freshmen males are athletes. Connect….dots.

Yes I can read. And I can also do math. 45% is not equal to 100%. I know parents are stressed this time of year with our seniors, but please let's not be rude to each other.

Since you can do math, what percentage of male ED admits is that? And then first gen programs, add those in, and legacy/big donor EDs, and faculty brats. What percentage of slots do you think are left ED? Actually do the math this time.

I did the math, and while ED rates for LACs that heavily recruit athletes are inflated by athletes (and FGLI/Questbridge to a lesser extent), it's still a few per cent higher than RD. If PP's son has no other clear favorite, he has not given up anything by applying to Williams ED rather than RD. If anything, he's putting the odds a few extra per cent in his favor. Unless he had an equally desirable non-LAC he could have EDed to.

Agree. Indicating the school is your clear first choice offers a boost, even if a relatively small one. I've posted elsewhere that my DC applied ED to a WASP. They got in, and the 13 kids who applied RD did not. The stats were there but otherwise unhooked, so who knows if they would have been among the 1-2 typically admitted if in the larger RD pool.

Is the desired outcome to get into only one school? Or is the desired outcome to get into a great school? If the desired outcome is to get into only one school, the chances of getting into a great school are lowered exponentially. If kid is OK with this outcome, i.e. the 98% rejection chance, suffering the vagaries of the ED round, and cool with the likelihood of attending a low target or safety, then so be it. But what you will often find is that the kid is definitely not OK with that but, like many posters on this thread, have not thought about it/think the risks are far different than they actually are.

during ED round, yes.

Just be honest with your kid. Dear Johnnie, you have a 3% chance of going to your one, dream school. And a 90% chance, because of the choices you are making, of ending up at a low target or a safety.

Or, you can have a 20% chance of going to this great school, and a 2% chance of going to your dream school still, if you don’t get into the great school, and a 70% chance of ending up at a low target or a safety.

What is your choice?

any kid with a 1600 coming out of a private school is not Williams or ... else Denison. Sorry, that's not happening. At our school, they waltz right into Georgetown or Middlebury and live happy lives. And didn't learn to be cautious in their dream.

Nobody "waltz's" into Middlebury in RD. They take a huge proportion of their class via ED1/ED2.

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not recalculating anything. You asked/doubled down on source for 18 QB and I provided it. YW!

That’s not a source. It is a news article. CDS will still likely include them in ED.

nope. at no school is qb included in ED. it's a separate process and it's thrown into RD numbers.

Why do you say that when the schools themselves include them in ED results

it's school by school. williams does not if that's what someone was asking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

yeah right.

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

This isn't a pissing match. People are listing where their DC applied ED/EA. You clearly like kicking kids in person...your poor kid with a crap parent like you.

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

Who knew a Bryn Mawr applicant could be so triggering?

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

Who knew a Bryn Mawr applicant could be so triggering?

Ripping other kids' stats serves no purpose except to be nasty and mean. These are actual teenagers with hopes and parents who love them. What's the point of the negativity? Good luck to your WASP ED applicant, and to the Bryn Mawr applicant. Both sound like great kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

4.0/4.97W 36 ACT IB diploma plus 5s on 5 APs. Competitive fencer and violinist with a tuition scholarship. WASP ED applicant. Swipe away!

Who knew a Bryn Mawr applicant could be so triggering?

Oh come on, it stinks athletes with low stats are taking spots from kids with strong academics.

[Anonymous]

There is some really mean and insecure energy vibrating on parts of this thread. Parents - I know we feel anxious and this process sucks but please try to hold it together and act kindly to others on this board. You don't know what we're carrying or who we are. We are all just doing the best we can.

We are not each other's enemies to put down.

Sending good vibes and good luck to all the anxious parents and hard-working kids on this thread!

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Anonymous wrote:There is some really mean and insecure energy vibrating on parts of this thread. Parents - I know we feel anxious and this process sucks but please try to hold it together and act kindly to others on this board. You don't know what we're carrying or who we are. We are all just doing the best we can.

We are not each other's enemies to put down.

Sending good vibes and good luck to all the anxious parents and hard-working kids on this thread!

thank you for the palate cleanse!

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Anonymous wrote:Bryn Mawr
3.3
Test optional
Recruited

Your DC passed a pre-read with those stats?

Do they need to pass a pre-read? They just want to play sports.

DUH. Obviously passed a pre-read - was waiting to see how long it took for an a-hole to comment.
Why do you think you're the arbiter of college admissions?

3.3 is UW - 3.8 W
5s on 7 APs
Violin/classical guitar
Was being recruited by multiple D1s but wants to focus on academics and attend a women's college

Please share your child's stats so we can take a swipe.

A 3.3? That would be a tough bar.