Did your DC apply to a LAC with ED (or ED1)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
Male
English
3.8 UW from academic private, ACT 33
Double Legacy
not recruited athlete but wants to walk on for non-helmet sport

Good luck PP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
Male
English
3.8 UW from academic private, ACT 33
Double Legacy
not recruited athlete but wants to walk on for non-helmet sport

So hooked. And I don’t mean just double legacy. Has there been any contact with coach whatsoever? Methinks yes. Lots of athletes who get an admissions edge pretend they did not because they do not have a “recruited athlete” spot. But they kind of do…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Depends on humanity and record to back it up. But if it is philosophy or history (male majors) and unhooked, big mistake. You would think males have a SLAC advantage, but at Williams ED they don’t. 39% of males in the school are athletes ( greater proportion than females). The proportion of freshman athlete slots has to be closer to 45% due to attrition. And almost all are ED.

I say this not to make you feel bad, but to alert future applicants. Most top unhooked students have already gotten the memo not to apply ED to Williams and the like. They don’t, and Williams does not get the top tier unhooked students that they used to.

Williams deserves this, to be hoist on their own athletics petard.

What is the point of this. It’s November.

There is still an ED2 round for many LACs in January, so it's good for people to know not to waste ED2 on LAC unless it's their only top option. If they like a large or mid-sized they should go there.

People should ED to their top option. The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Depends on humanity and record to back it up. But if it is philosophy or history (male majors) and unhooked, big mistake. You would think males have a SLAC advantage, but at Williams ED they don’t. 39% of males in the school are athletes ( greater proportion than females). The proportion of freshman athlete slots has to be closer to 45% due to attrition. And almost all are ED.

I say this not to make you feel bad, but to alert future applicants. Most top unhooked students have already gotten the memo not to apply ED to Williams and the like. They don’t, and Williams does not get the top tier unhooked students that they used to.

Williams deserves this, to be hoist on their own athletics petard.

What is the point of this. It’s November.

Reading comprehension is your friend. I bolded it for you to help. Only accommodation I could think of…

It’s just mean. Nobody is going to check back 8 months from now to see your thoughts.

And plenty of families at feeders have better information than you do.

Familiarize yourself with search functions. That is all the hand holding I can do right now. Police yourself rather than this thread: I am sure you can do a better job at work; hopefully that is more in your wheelhouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Depends on humanity and record to back it up. But if it is philosophy or history (male majors) and unhooked, big mistake. You would think males have a SLAC advantage, but at Williams ED they don’t. 39% of males in the school are athletes ( greater proportion than females). The proportion of freshman athlete slots has to be closer to 45% due to attrition. And almost all are ED.

I say this not to make you feel bad, but to alert future applicants. Most top unhooked students have already gotten the memo not to apply ED to Williams and the like. They don’t, and Williams does not get the top tier unhooked students that they used to.

Williams deserves this, to be hoist on their own athletics petard.

What is the point of this. It’s November.

There is still an ED2 round for many LACs in January, so it's good for people to know not to waste ED2 on LAC unless it's their only top option. If they like a large or mid-sized they should go there.

People should ED to their top option. The end.

Well, the end would be the RD round. If that is the end you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bowdoin
Male
English
3.8 UW from academic private, ACT 33
Double Legacy
not recruited athlete but wants to walk on for non-helmet sport

So hooked. And I don’t mean just double legacy. Has there been any contact with coach whatsoever? Methinks yes. Lots of athletes who get an admissions edge pretend they did not because they do not have a “recruited athlete” spot. But they kind of do…

Our son is hooked because he is a double legacy. He has had coach contact but isn't at the high enough level in his sport where he will get full coach support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Depends on humanity and record to back it up. But if it is philosophy or history (male majors) and unhooked, big mistake. You would think males have a SLAC advantage, but at Williams ED they don’t. 39% of males in the school are athletes ( greater proportion than females). The proportion of freshman athlete slots has to be closer to 45% due to attrition. And almost all are ED.

I say this not to make you feel bad, but to alert future applicants. Most top unhooked students have already gotten the memo not to apply ED to Williams and the like. They don’t, and Williams does not get the top tier unhooked students that they used to.

Williams deserves this, to be hoist on their own athletics petard.

What is the point of this. It’s November.

Reading comprehension is your friend. I bolded it for you to help. Only accommodation I could think of…

It’s just mean. Nobody is going to check back 8 months from now to see your thoughts.

And plenty of families at feeders have better information than you do.

Familiarize yourself with search functions. That is all the hand holding I can do right now. Police yourself rather than this thread: I am sure you can do a better job at work; hopefully that is more in your wheelhouse.

Nope. You’re just being mean for no reason. And a Williams hater. Whatever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

+1. Though another poster thinks you are mean to say it, I think you are being helpful to future applicants.

[Anonymous]

ED1 at Carleton
3.7(unweighted)/35 ACT
Undecided major, but leaning toward math
Full pay
Recruited athlete

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Depends on humanity and record to back it up. But if it is philosophy or history (male majors) and unhooked, big mistake. You would think males have a SLAC advantage, but at Williams ED they don’t. 39% of males in the school are athletes ( greater proportion than females). The proportion of freshman athlete slots has to be closer to 45% due to attrition. And almost all are ED.

I say this not to make you feel bad, but to alert future applicants. Most top unhooked students have already gotten the memo not to apply ED to Williams and the like. They don’t, and Williams does not get the top tier unhooked students that they used to.

Williams deserves this, to be hoist on their own athletics petard.

What is the point of this. It’s November.

Reading comprehension is your friend. I bolded it for you to help. Only accommodation I could think of…

It’s just mean. Nobody is going to check back 8 months from now to see your thoughts.

And plenty of families at feeders have better information than you do.

Familiarize yourself with search functions. That is all the hand holding I can do right now. Police yourself rather than this thread: I am sure you can do a better job at work; hopefully that is more in your wheelhouse.

Nope. You’re just being mean for no reason. And a Williams hater. Whatever

“Whatever” means that is the last word, right? You sure seem the type to want the last word. What will you do now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

Why would 1500-1600 not move the needle at all in Dartmouth? If the GPA is such where the trajectory is up (PP said lower in grade 9 only) the high SAT score should be validating of his upward GPA trajectory.

Everyone on here is so negative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

+1. Though another poster thinks you are mean to say it, I think you are being helpful to future applicants.

lol I am not the "mean" mom, different posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

Dartmouth has favorite high schools. So does Williams. So does midd. Look at your naviance, not DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:williams
1600 SAT
humanities male.
v good but in-school EC
v good but not perfect transcript (9th grade mostly)

Williams must be the dream school.

Otherwise it's not the best strategy. Williams is test optional and puts a lot more weight on GPA than test score.

Test-optional does not really apply to white or Asian students from affluent zip codes, however. They’ll assume poor test scores if you don’t submit. TO gives them flexibility with athletes and FGLI applicants, allowing them to build the class they want.

Point taken yes for unhooked a good test score must be provided.

Strategically, the inconsistency between gpa and test score doesn't work best for OP at Williams. Of course if Williams is the dream school then go ahead. Scoring at 1500 vs 1600 does not move the needle at Williams.

Here is the thing. That 1600 score may work better at other schools that are test required and value a high score.

Dartmouth comes to mind.

Why would 1500-1600 not move the needle at all in Dartmouth? If the GPA is such where the trajectory is up (PP said lower in grade 9 only) the high SAT score should be validating of his upward GPA trajectory.

Everyone on here is so negative.

* Williams (not Dartmouth). PP here, that was typed by mistake!