14th and R Street masked gun men attack and disappear delivery guy for political reasons

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

How do you know they are BOP?

A few reasons:

*BOP officers have been deployed in DC in extraordinary circumstances before, like during the 2020 protests. When they were deployed in 2020, they had police gear but had no agency insignia and refused to identify what agency they were with. For obvious reasons, unlike officers who patrol on the street, BOP officers don't really need agency insignia during their usual jobs.

*The way they're subduing that guy looks, to my eye, to be suggestive of someone with law enforcement training but who doesn't routinely make arrests. The way they're subduing him looks like something a CO would do, not a regular LEO. It is overly aggressive and it looks more like a fistfight than a tactical takedown.

*They're out of dress code for FBI/USMS. I'm also 99% sure they're out of dress code for DEA/ATF, but I'm admittedly less knowledgable about that.

*I'm pretty sure they're police. The plate carriers they're wearing are identical. I can't tell from this distance, but they look exactly like the Tyr Tactical carriers that almost all federal LEOs get, and which are not available for civilian purchase. They also have identical Tasers. And while non-LEOs certainly can buy a Taser, I think it is more likely that the 5/6 guys in identical vests and with identical tasers are some kind of law enforcement.

So you are just making wild speculation. There are many agencies that are refusing to wear insignia and wearing plain clothes, particularly ICE.

Can you show me another example of police not wearing agency insignia?

ICE has been doing this all around the country for months. Have you not been paying attention?

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

Yes, and all of this is making life much more dangerous for actual officers.

PP here. Yes, I agree. As a LE spouse, I'm concerned, although I'm lucky my DH is with an agency that has a lot of goodwill with the public.

I do think it is important to be as informed as possible and distinguish between things that are standard (no name tag) and things that are truly alarming (no agency insignia).

Why wouldn't BOP be required to identify their agency? Also they have no jurisdiction in DC and I can't think of any conceivable reason why they would be "arresting" a delivery guy on a bike on 14th. Is the allegation that guy escaped from a prison? Even then it doesn't make sense.

I have also personally seen independent militia in DC in the last few days. I know they were militia because I looked up the insignia on one of their shirts (designed to look like military to people who don't know better, though DC residents are better than most at telling the difference because we are exposed to various military divisions and federal law enforcement more than most people). These men were "patrolling" a neighborhood. They aren't military, they aren't feds. They are just fascist but jobs who own a lot of tactical gear purchased online. So that's also happening, which is why many seeing this video are skeptical that these men are feds at all. None of the gear they have would be hard to acquire as a civilian, and their behavior and language doesn't evidence that they are LEO conducting valid business in DC.

BOP doesn't give their employees agency insignia because well...they work in prisons. When they're operating in the normal scope of their job, there's no real question who they are. It's not like there are multiple LE agencies operating inside prisons.

To be clear, I'm not defending it. Just explaining why I think that's who they are.

Of course they give them agency insignia. They wear uniforms when they are in prisons. There are also BOP jackets, T-shirts and caps and an agency patch.



https://www.511tactical.com/fbop

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

How do you know they are BOP?

A few reasons:

*BOP officers have been deployed in DC in extraordinary circumstances before, like during the 2020 protests. When they were deployed in 2020, they had police gear but had no agency insignia and refused to identify what agency they were with. For obvious reasons, unlike officers who patrol on the street, BOP officers don't really need agency insignia during their usual jobs.

*The way they're subduing that guy looks, to my eye, to be suggestive of someone with law enforcement training but who doesn't routinely make arrests. The way they're subduing him looks like something a CO would do, not a regular LEO. It is overly aggressive and it looks more like a fistfight than a tactical takedown.

*They're out of dress code for FBI/USMS. I'm also 99% sure they're out of dress code for DEA/ATF, but I'm admittedly less knowledgable about that.

*I'm pretty sure they're police. The plate carriers they're wearing are identical. I can't tell from this distance, but they look exactly like the Tyr Tactical carriers that almost all federal LEOs get, and which are not available for civilian purchase. They also have identical Tasers. And while non-LEOs certainly can buy a Taser, I think it is more likely that the 5/6 guys in identical vests and with identical tasers are some kind of law enforcement.

So you are just making wild speculation. There are many agencies that are refusing to wear insignia and wearing plain clothes, particularly ICE.

Can you show me another example of police not wearing agency insignia?

ICE has been doing this all around the country for months. Have you not been paying attention?

I mean specifically in the context of this law enforcement surge in DC. I’ve seen ERO/HSI patches everywhere. CBP too, although they’re not part of ICE. It doesn’t seem like DHS LE agencies are trying to conceal their involvement.

I don’t understand your hostility, either. I’m just trying to share what I know about the subject.

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

Yes, and all of this is making life much more dangerous for actual officers.

PP here. Yes, I agree. As a LE spouse, I'm concerned, although I'm lucky my DH is with an agency that has a lot of goodwill with the public.

I do think it is important to be as informed as possible and distinguish between things that are standard (no name tag) and things that are truly alarming (no agency insignia).

Why wouldn't BOP be required to identify their agency? Also they have no jurisdiction in DC and I can't think of any conceivable reason why they would be "arresting" a delivery guy on a bike on 14th. Is the allegation that guy escaped from a prison? Even then it doesn't make sense.

I have also personally seen independent militia in DC in the last few days. I know they were militia because I looked up the insignia on one of their shirts (designed to look like military to people who don't know better, though DC residents are better than most at telling the difference because we are exposed to various military divisions and federal law enforcement more than most people). These men were "patrolling" a neighborhood. They aren't military, they aren't feds. They are just fascist but jobs who own a lot of tactical gear purchased online. So that's also happening, which is why many seeing this video are skeptical that these men are feds at all. None of the gear they have would be hard to acquire as a civilian, and their behavior and language doesn't evidence that they are LEO conducting valid business in DC.

BOP doesn't give their employees agency insignia because well...they work in prisons. When they're operating in the normal scope of their job, there's no real question who they are. It's not like there are multiple LE agencies operating inside prisons.

To be clear, I'm not defending it. Just explaining why I think that's who they are.

Of course they give them agency insignia. They wear uniforms when they are in prisons. There are also BOP jackets, T-shirts and caps and an agency patch.



https://www.511tactical.com/fbop

Not to be difficult with you, but that patch, much like the punisher flag next to it, isn’t issued by DOJ or BOP. That’s why you won’t see that design on any government website. It’s a logo that the officers make themselves.

https://dcist.com/story/17/07/28/activists-call-for-police-officers/

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/barr-defends-use-of-nonidentified-officers-in-dc-as-democrats-demand-answers-201723332.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bureau-of-prisons-officers-brought-in-to-washington-dc-to-respond-to-george-floyd-protests/

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

How do you know they are BOP?

A few reasons:

*BOP officers have been deployed in DC in extraordinary circumstances before, like during the 2020 protests. When they were deployed in 2020, they had police gear but had no agency insignia and refused to identify what agency they were with. For obvious reasons, unlike officers who patrol on the street, BOP officers don't really need agency insignia during their usual jobs.

*The way they're subduing that guy looks, to my eye, to be suggestive of someone with law enforcement training but who doesn't routinely make arrests. The way they're subduing him looks like something a CO would do, not a regular LEO. It is overly aggressive and it looks more like a fistfight than a tactical takedown.

*They're out of dress code for FBI/USMS. I'm also 99% sure they're out of dress code for DEA/ATF, but I'm admittedly less knowledgable about that.

*I'm pretty sure they're police. The plate carriers they're wearing are identical. I can't tell from this distance, but they look exactly like the Tyr Tactical carriers that almost all federal LEOs get, and which are not available for civilian purchase. They also have identical Tasers. And while non-LEOs certainly can buy a Taser, I think it is more likely that the 5/6 guys in identical vests and with identical tasers are some kind of law enforcement.

So you are just making wild speculation. There are many agencies that are refusing to wear insignia and wearing plain clothes, particularly ICE.

DP: Sounds like a well-informed theory, nothing wild about it.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

How do you know they are BOP?

A few reasons:

*BOP officers have been deployed in DC in extraordinary circumstances before, like during the 2020 protests. When they were deployed in 2020, they had police gear but had no agency insignia and refused to identify what agency they were with. For obvious reasons, unlike officers who patrol on the street, BOP officers don't really need agency insignia during their usual jobs.

*The way they're subduing that guy looks, to my eye, to be suggestive of someone with law enforcement training but who doesn't routinely make arrests. The way they're subduing him looks like something a CO would do, not a regular LEO. It is overly aggressive and it looks more like a fistfight than a tactical takedown.

*They're out of dress code for FBI/USMS. I'm also 99% sure they're out of dress code for DEA/ATF, but I'm admittedly less knowledgable about that.

*I'm pretty sure they're police. The plate carriers they're wearing are identical. I can't tell from this distance, but they look exactly like the Tyr Tactical carriers that almost all federal LEOs get, and which are not available for civilian purchase. They also have identical Tasers. And while non-LEOs certainly can buy a Taser, I think it is more likely that the 5/6 guys in identical vests and with identical tasers are some kind of law enforcement.

So you are just making wild speculation. There are many agencies that are refusing to wear insignia and wearing plain clothes, particularly ICE.

Then they can continue to be assaulted by people who are rightfully skeptical about their authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/barr-defends-use-of-nonidentified-officers-in-dc-as-democrats-demand-answers-201723332.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bureau-of-prisons-officers-brought-in-to-washington-dc-to-respond-to-george-floyd-protests/

The strongly worded letter is appreciated. Now follow up with legislation which requires all federal LE to wear body cameras that are recording. And also APPROPRIATE funds to pay for it. Demand that it be in the upcoming budget bill.

Im talking to you, Democratic Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker, House Democratic Caucus Chair Hakeem Jeffries and Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi. This can be a winning issue for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand your hostility, either. I’m just trying to share what I know about the subject.

They’re hostile because you are offering calm, reasonable explanations that refute their hyperbolic, vitriolic claims about law enforcement. Next time use buzz words like Nazi, Gestapo and Brownshirt if you want information to be better received here.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand your hostility, either. I’m just trying to share what I know about the subject.

They’re hostile because you are offering calm, reasonable explanations that refute their hyperbolic, vitriolic claims about law enforcement. Next time use buzz words like Nazi, Gestapo and Brownshirt if you want information to be better received here.

I mean, I’m hardly defending the administration. Obviously having officers who are trained to stop prison riots work as regular patrol officers is…not good.

[Anonymous]

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In this video, (presumably) federal agents on the streets of DC, wrestle a man to the ground, tase him, hide their identities with masks, refuse to identify themselves or what agency they work for, and one suggests a political motive to bystanders

https://x.com/toddzwillich/status/1956772084056780839

What a bunch of low life thugs and criminals. This is what happens when criminals run this country. How long will we let this happen?

Maybe we do need the National Guard after all. Could Guard members have unalived those kidnappers and assailants?

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

Yes, and all of this is making life much more dangerous for actual officers.

“Actual officers” are the pawns of local politicians.

Fed LE doesn’t answer to you. They are finally being allowed to do the job they were supposed to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have already spent too much time on a person that I knew to be willfully ignorant. If you can’t read or refuse to read, it’s on you.

Everyone else probably can on their own without so much handholding.

You are wrong.

Big surprise.

I realize the NY link didn’t show what you thought, but you haven’t provided the requested CA link yet. While you’re Googling it could you check for the Illinois law that requires law enforcement to identify themselves to TikTokers?

I know the laws are out there because someone told me about them on the internet. I used to believe that bulletproof vests full of gear with big POLICE patches, guns, tasers, handcuffs, radios and vehicles covered with flashing police lights meant they were law enforcement. I never realized how important a name plate could be. As a bystander I’d feel a lot better if I could see a last name on their chest.

I'm the lawyer/LE spouse above. USMS/FBI/DEA/ATF LEOs typically don't wear name patches. That's much more common for state and local police. The lack of name plates on federal LEOs from those agencies shouldn't suggest wrongdoing by those officers.

Cursing at people, comments about libs, are acceptable? In my own job, this would have me fired. Yet another example of how police orgs, whoever they are, need reform. We have such low standards for their behavior.

They also punched him in the face and it was unnecessary. If hospital security can restrain men twice that guys size, going through withdrawal, without punching, and they do this every day across the country, there is absolutely no excuse.

The officers seen in this video aren't with those agencies. I'm the poster commenting above that they're BOP employees. I agree their conduct was totally out of line and that it is insane to have corrections officers and prison riot police patrolling the street.

My point was that there are a lot of FBI/ATF/DEA/USMS officers patrolling as part of this. They always have insignia for their agency, but generally don't wear name tags. My point is that the lack of nametags isn't indicative of wrongdoing. Obviously violently subduing an arrestee in the way seen in the video is indicative of wrongdoing.

Yes, and all of this is making life much more dangerous for actual officers.

“Actual officers” are the pawns of local politicians.

Fed LE doesn’t answer to you. They are finally being allowed to do the job they were supposed to.

We don’t have to answer to illegal orders from them, either.

May they reap twice what they sow.

[Anonymous]

People at risk need protection. That’s not the same rich white people protesting against safe streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In this video, (presumably) federal agents on the streets of DC, wrestle a man to the ground, tase him, hide their identities with masks, refuse to identify themselves or what agency they work for, and one suggests a political motive to bystanders

https://x.com/toddzwillich/status/1956772084056780839

What a bunch of low life thugs and criminals. This is what happens when criminals run this country. How long will we let this happen?

Maybe we do need the National Guard after all. Could Guard members have unalived those kidnappers and assailants?

You’d hope that citizen soldiers like the national guard would be honorable enough to see what’s going on and make correct and legal decisions. Maybe one of these deputized dickbags in ICE costume will end up staring at the business end of an M4.