Will RTO be relaxed ever?

[Anonymous]

This too shall pass, at least for some Feds. Society has such a short attention span — “sticking it to the Feds” might be the “current thing,” but that will go away when the next BS trend pops up. See Covid, climate change, Epstein, etc etc.

Also, something nobody talks about: There are 2-3 tiers of federal agencies. First, there are large, executive agencies with “lots of fat, lazy workers” that are perceived as liberal. Second, there are smaller, independent, more elite agencies that are mostly high-demand white collar workers that are apolitical. See finregs.

The latter will fly under the radar and carefully reintroduce TW. It’ll all be on the DL. Already happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I am a fellow fed and if you asked me a week ago, I would have said no way RTO would be relaxed until at least 2029. However, just recently, management at my agency made some comments about needing to match private sector hybrid that gives me hope. Might be false hope but I think there are sections of the govt that might change. I think it will largely depend on how many people have left the agency, how desperate the agency is to hire again, and how competitive the agency is with private sector. So highly highly agency dependent.

It’s been relaxed a bit in my agency. Don’t want to say more than that. But. There’s hope

This. But OP shouldn’t plan a new job based on hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

Nowadays It’s harder to meet friends if you aren’t in some kind of activities. I live on a block of 40 kids and you can’t schedule a single one of them to play, they all have multiple activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This too shall pass, at least for some Feds. Society has such a short attention span — “sticking it to the Feds” might be the “current thing,” but that will go away when the next BS trend pops up. See Covid, climate change, Epstein, etc etc.

Also, something nobody talks about: There are 2-3 tiers of federal agencies. First, there are large, executive agencies with “lots of fat, lazy workers” that are perceived as liberal. Second, there are smaller, independent, more elite agencies that are mostly high-demand white collar workers that are apolitical. See finregs.

The latter will fly under the radar and carefully reintroduce TW. It’ll all be on the DL. Already happening.

Let’s hope. I’m in the latter category and no relaxed RTO here unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

You sound selfish. Some kids thrive with activities and being busy.

[Anonymous]

Feds are lucky if its being relaxed as it isn't in private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Feds are lucky if its being relaxed as it isn't in private.

The vast majority of companies are using a hybrid approach.

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The point is to be grateful for your easy years of no commuting. It was a nice, unexpected gift and now it’s over. It’s time to join the rest of us who never got that nice gift

I should have enjoyed the time that I could get a COVID vaccine covered by insurance while lasted. My son's best friend should have enjoyed being eligible for the level of loans he needed for college while it lasted. Venezuelans who were here illegally should have enjoyed their gift of not being sent to CECOT while it lasted. So many gifts, and we should all be so grateful!

Yep but instead you feel bitter and angry. If it weren’t for college loans, I wouldn’t have been able to earn what I earn. I happily repaid my loans and never expected anyone to forgive them. I got a weekend job and paid them off as fast as I could. I’m grateful that the local florist gave me a weekend job delivering flowers so I could pay off the loans. He later provided flowers for my wedding at no cost. Start looking at life differently and you won’t be a bitter person. I’m sure those feds who were laid off would love to have a long commute if it meant they had a job.

Who said anything about loan forgiveness? Kids can’t even GET loans now. How nice of you to pull up the ladder after you got loans that helped you earn what you earn now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

You sound selfish. Some kids thrive with activities and being busy.

Kids thrive when they have time to spend with their families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The point is to be grateful for your easy years of no commuting. It was a nice, unexpected gift and now it’s over. It’s time to join the rest of us who never got that nice gift

I should have enjoyed the time that I could get a COVID vaccine covered by insurance while lasted. My son's best friend should have enjoyed being eligible for the level of loans he needed for college while it lasted. Venezuelans who were here illegally should have enjoyed their gift of not being sent to CECOT while it lasted. So many gifts, and we should all be so grateful!

Yep but instead you feel bitter and angry. If it weren’t for college loans, I wouldn’t have been able to earn what I earn. I happily repaid my loans and never expected anyone to forgive them. I got a weekend job and paid them off as fast as I could. I’m grateful that the local florist gave me a weekend job delivering flowers so I could pay off the loans. He later provided flowers for my wedding at no cost. Start looking at life differently and you won’t be a bitter person. I’m sure those feds who were laid off would love to have a long commute if it meant they had a job.

Who said anything about loan forgiveness? Kids can’t even GET loans now. How nice of you to pull up the ladder after you got loans that helped you earn what you earn now.

Lots of people are waiting on having their loans forgiven. Biden's plan would've forgiven a lot of them. Not gonna happen with the current occupant of the WH but who knows where the pendulum will swing with the next guy.

My kid has gotten loans for the last 4 yrs of college. What do you mean they can't get loans now? And I will be paying off his loans after graduation so I'm not pulling up any ladder.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

Nowadays It’s harder to meet friends if you aren’t in some kind of activities. I live on a block of 40 kids and you can’t schedule a single one of them to play, they all have multiple activities.

That's just an UMC thing. Come on over to the MC where kids might do one activity but that's it. My kids have chores, jobs, etc. They meet plenty of people at school, summer jobs, in the neighborhood, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

You sound selfish. Some kids thrive with activities and being busy.

Kids thrive when they have time to spend with their families.

We all thrive if PP pays for our bills. Who would have known!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

You sound selfish. Some kids thrive with activities and being busy.

Kids thrive when they have time to spend with their families.

We all thrive if PP pays for our bills. Who would have known!

Stop shuttling them around all afternoon and evening to activities. That should be family time. It’s sad that kids don’t even have dinner with their parents because they are running to these activities during that time. Kids don’t have time to sit down, eat a meal together, do some homework, chores, etc. Let’s eat something in the car on the way to soccer! That’s not normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

Nowadays It’s harder to meet friends if you aren’t in some kind of activities. I live on a block of 40 kids and you can’t schedule a single one of them to play, they all have multiple activities.

That's just an UMC thing. Come on over to the MC where kids might do one activity but that's it. My kids have chores, jobs, etc. They meet plenty of people at school, summer jobs, in the neighborhood, etc.

8-15 years can work? I would encourage babysitting or cat sitting around age 14, that still leaves a few years you need to plan their social schedule.

A lot of town sports teams are pretty affordable like $120 for the semester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop signing your kids up for all of these activities. It’s overkill and it makes you all grumpy and tired. Go to work and do your job and stop acting like divas.

Nowadays It’s harder to meet friends if you aren’t in some kind of activities. I live on a block of 40 kids and you can’t schedule a single one of them to play, they all have multiple activities.

That's just an UMC thing. Come on over to the MC where kids might do one activity but that's it. My kids have chores, jobs, etc. They meet plenty of people at school, summer jobs, in the neighborhood, etc.

8-15 years can work? I would encourage babysitting or cat sitting around age 14, that still leaves a few years you need to plan their social schedule.

A lot of town sports teams are pretty affordable like $120 for the semester.

I had a paper route at age 12 and walked neighbors dog in middle of day after school while she worked. Kids should be working starting at 12.