Why do teens self-segregate along racial lines ?

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.

You sound dumb and clearly city folk.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.

You sound dumb and clearly city folk.

lol insults and namecalling is all you've got in the face of cold hard data

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Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.

That's because the overwhelming number of people who live in rural areas are white. I get your point, but the vast majority of urban people of any race don't hunt. Hunting is more of a rural culture thing than a "white culture" thing. By the way, urban and rural differences are way more stark than anything along racial lines.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

white Americans have no culture.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you? There are a TON of black hunters.

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South. It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.

That's because the overwhelming number of people who live in rural areas are white. I get your point, but the vast majority of urban people of any race don't hunt. Hunting is more of a rural culture thing than a "white culture" thing. By the way, urban and rural differences are way more stark than anything along racial lines.

Not really if you look at the data

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

white Americans have no culture.

I know it's hard to see because it is everywhere but it is there

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

white Americans have no culture.

I know you're trolling, but pick a lane.

"Whites are the dominant culture"
"Whites have no culture"

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

This is only true if you are used to white-dominated spaces. There are lots of spaces that are mostly black or hispanic kids. My white kid used to attend a school that was like 98% black. While all the kids at that school certainly experienced racism in their lives (I think it's impossible not to experience some forms of racism as a black person in the US), they did not struggle with feeling validated or a sense of belonging at school. The culture of the school was black and it was the handful of white kids who were the outliers.

I do think people would have thought it was weird if the white kids at the school only hung out with each other though -- it would have come off as racist. However it wasn't really an issue. My kid was one of two white girls in her grade, and the other white girl had totally different interests and a different personality, so they were barely friends. There were a few white boys but at that time she was very sexist and didn't want to be friends with boys, lol. So all her friends were black girls. She never felt excluded by them. Sometimes she'd feel a bit out of place or left out (most notably regarding hair, very occasionally regarding other cultural touchstones that she didn't know about). But mostly they bonded over shared interests and preferences. There's not a racial component to liking gymnastics or crafting.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

white Americans have no culture.

White people that came here from places a long time ago like Ireland, England, Germany, Italy and all the other countries that people came here for a better life didn’t hang on to old cultures.

My father’s ancestors came to America 175 years ago. Back then people tended to marry from the old country, then from other countries in Europe. Soon Asians, South Americans, Africans and others emigrated to the US. They were more likely to hold on to their languages and food, ceremonies, etc. More recent in history Americans are marrying people who came here from different parts of the world.

There’s no such thing as white culture anywhere. The sooner people who become Americans branch out and make friends with a variety of people the sooner we’ll stop hurling insults at each other. We can dream anyway.