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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening.  The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids.  But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025?  Any suggestions to stop it? [/quote]

The same reasons adults do.[/quote]

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?[/quote]

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong. [/quote]

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color. [/quote]

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago). [/quote]

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, [b]hunting[/b]) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.[/quote]

Haven't spent much time in the South, have you?  There are a TON of black hunters.[/quote]

And White people listen to and in some cases make hip hop music but that doesn't make hip hop not part of Black culture[/quote]

Hunting (and fishing) is definitely part of black culture in the rural South.  It's pretty universal among ethnic groups.[/quote]

Hunting culture in the US is very White. It doesn't mean there aren't traditions of hunting in other groups, but the overwhelming majority of Americans who hunt are White.

[quote]A Google search of “American hunter” yields images with a common thread: white and male. The covers of outdoor-themed magazines and show something similar — camouflage-adorned, perhaps bearded, white men.

There are statistics to back these observations. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2016 National Survey of Fishing, Hunting, and Wildlife-Associated Recreation, 97% of all U.S. hunters are white — with non-white hunters representing just 3%.[/quote]

https://www.fws.gov/story/hunting-redefined#:~:text=Keeping%20the%20tradition%20alive,has%20set%20out%20to%20do.[/quote]

That's because the overwhelming number of people who live in rural areas are white.  I get your point, but the vast majority of urban people of any race don't hunt.  Hunting is more of a rural culture thing than a "white culture" thing.  By the way, urban and rural differences are way more stark than anything along racial lines.  [/quote]

Not really if you look at the data[/quote]

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