MAGA: what’s the plan after everyone is deported?

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Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to think we "need" agriculture workers. We have one of the most productive agriculture sectors. Compared to the Chinese who employee 10% of there population in agriculture we only need 1-2% of our population are employed in agriculture. We are a net exporter of food. Americans also waste a large proportion of food. We really don't need agriculture workers. Agriculture is pretty much a solved problem in America.


Then why are the farmers ballyhooing?
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Are you suggesting America never had businesses before immigration went wild? Open a history book. I know you want to pretend the sky will fall down if we enforce our laws, but no one is buying it. Businesses thrive on a government that enforces the laws that work for all of us, and protecting fair wages and not having an underground, undocumented workforce will do that.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Yes, this is what Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed for. Securing the border and creating a reasonable and humane pathway for immigrants to come to the US legally with work visas to fill a void in agricultural and industrial sectors. This all made sense to everyone but then Congress never came through as usual and then Trump and Biden blew everything to pieces with their recklessness.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Are you suggesting America never had businesses before immigration went wild? Open a history book. I know you want to pretend the sky will fall down if we enforce our laws, but no one is buying it. Businesses thrive on a government that enforces the laws that work for all of us, and protecting fair wages and not having an underground, undocumented workforce will do that.


Maybe you could just tell us when you think the USA didn’t need immigrants for farm labor? 1860?
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Are you suggesting America never had businesses before immigration went wild? Open a history book. I know you want to pretend the sky will fall down if we enforce our laws, but no one is buying it. Businesses thrive on a government that enforces the laws that work for all of us, and protecting fair wages and not having an underground, undocumented workforce will do that.


Maybe you could just tell us when you think the USA didn’t need immigrants for farm labor? 1860?


I have a plan to solve world hunger. We can start exporting immigrants to countries that have a short food supply, so they can increase the food supply. Looks like you're starving China, here are a few million people.
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Anonymous wrote:You are going to have a cute WASP in a polo shirt and khakis doing your mulch

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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Yabut yabut yabut scary invasion of criminal rapist cat and dog eating illegals. It's wild that these stupid MAGA brain worms have embedded themselves so deeply in minds that these people would sooner starve to death than countenance the thought of a migrant picking their strawberries.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Yabut yabut yabut scary invasion of criminal rapist cat and dog eating illegals. It's wild that these stupid MAGA brain worms have embedded themselves so deeply in minds that these people would sooner starve to death than countenance the thought of a migrant picking their strawberries.


Huh? More like you liberals can’t imagine a country with actual enforced law where businesses can’t have underpaid illegal labor to pick strawberries but have to actually….pay a living wage and benefits to lawful workers.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Yabut yabut yabut scary invasion of criminal rapist cat and dog eating illegals. It's wild that these stupid MAGA brain worms have embedded themselves so deeply in minds that these people would sooner starve to death than countenance the thought of a migrant picking their strawberries.


Huh? More like you liberals can’t imagine a country with actual enforced law where businesses can’t have underpaid illegal labor to pick strawberries but have to actually….pay a living wage and benefits to lawful workers.


You MAGA dumbasses are completely inconsistent and incoherent.

WE LIBERALS supported guys like Cesar Chavez, who organized American farm workers and tried getting them better wages. YOU called him a communist, a socialist, a terrorist. Incidentally, Chavez was very much anti-migrant labor, because he wanted Americans to be able to do those jobs for a fair wage.

WE LIBERALS have been calling for living wages for decades. YOU whined and moaned and called US communists and socialists and terrorists and accused us of being greedy thieves and retaliated against us by busting unions and threatening American workers with automation and offshoring and everything else.

YOU CONSERVATIVES have stood in the way of these things for decades. YOU have stood in the way of any kind of coherent policy for decades, whether living wages, immigration reform or even the border wall. It was YOUR side who, before Trump came along, didn't want a border wall, who wanted lax immigration controls and cheap migrant labor. https://theconversation.com/republicans-once-championed-immigration-in-the-us-why-has-the-partys-rhetoric-and-public-opinion-changed-so-dramatically-239836

And now you presume to come along and preach to us about stuff we've always supported, like living wages? Come on.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Yabut yabut yabut scary invasion of criminal rapist cat and dog eating illegals. It's wild that these stupid MAGA brain worms have embedded themselves so deeply in minds that these people would sooner starve to death than countenance the thought of a migrant picking their strawberries.


Huh? More like you liberals can’t imagine a country with actual enforced law where businesses can’t have underpaid illegal labor to pick strawberries but have to actually….pay a living wage and benefits to lawful workers.


I love how MAGA keeps claiming they’ve never had the sweet nectar of a strawberry pass their lips. LOL. Funniest argument ever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who will pick our cotton??!!?


You know the answer to that. Stop playing. The same people who picked it before. Prison labor which is 99% black, so....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to think we "need" agriculture workers. We have one of the most productive agriculture sectors. Compared to the Chinese who employee 10% of there population in agriculture we only need 1-2% of our population are employed in agriculture. We are a net exporter of food. Americans also waste a large proportion of food. We really don't need agriculture workers. Agriculture is pretty much a solved problem in America.


^^ not a farmer.
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Anonymous wrote:We never had farmers or dairy workers before illegal immigration.


We did - but it was just called immigration back then.


No, it was called American farmers. I know because my entire family is in the farming community and tired of being priced out by illegal labor.


Maybe in your little corner. But across most of America, farmers have been relying on foreign laborers for DECADES. I remember Mexican farm workers from when I was a kid and I'm now pushing 60. You definitely don't speak for most of the American ag industry. Even in the 1950s close to 30% of US farm workers were foreign migrants. That grew over time to be over 50% by 2000. It grew over time REGARDLESS of who was President or who controlled Congress.

Yet you dolts want to try and gaslight us and pretend this is some sudden new occurrence, in fact an "InVAsIOn!!!!" and it's all Joe Biden's fault.


All true and this is why Clinton, Bush, and Obama pushed Congress to pass immigration reform to suit the needs of modern America. We need foreign laborers to be able to come her legally with prior authorization. These are called work visas. The letting all the unvetted people in and then kicking them all out policies of Trump and Biden are chaotic, dangerous, and completely asinine.


We can discuss future immigration policies after the millions of people staying here illegally are removed. First we get a working border, then we reevaluate.


Tell me you’re not a business leader without telling me. That’s a great way to run one into the ground. Myopia is for the birds.


Yabut yabut yabut scary invasion of criminal rapist cat and dog eating illegals. It's wild that these stupid MAGA brain worms have embedded themselves so deeply in minds that these people would sooner starve to death than countenance the thought of a migrant picking their strawberries.


Huh? More like you liberals can’t imagine a country with actual enforced law where businesses can’t have underpaid illegal labor to pick strawberries but have to actually….pay a living wage and benefits to lawful workers.


You MAGA dumbasses are completely inconsistent and incoherent.

WE LIBERALS supported guys like Cesar Chavez, who organized American farm workers and tried getting them better wages. YOU called him a communist, a socialist, a terrorist. Incidentally, Chavez was very much anti-migrant labor, because he wanted Americans to be able to do those jobs for a fair wage.

WE LIBERALS have been calling for living wages for decades. YOU whined and moaned and called US communists and socialists and terrorists and accused us of being greedy thieves and retaliated against us by busting unions and threatening American workers with automation and offshoring and everything else.

YOU CONSERVATIVES have stood in the way of these things for decades. YOU have stood in the way of any kind of coherent policy for decades, whether living wages, immigration reform or even the border wall. It was YOUR side who, before Trump came along, didn't want a border wall, who wanted lax immigration controls and cheap migrant labor. https://theconversation.com/republicans-once-championed-immigration-in-the-us-why-has-the-partys-rhetoric-and-public-opinion-changed-so-dramatically-239836

And now you presume to come along and preach to us about stuff we've always supported, like living wages? Come on.



Amen. Some of the posters here clearly are smooth brains.
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Anonymous wrote:It's absurd to think we "need" agriculture workers. We have one of the most productive agriculture sectors. Compared to the Chinese who employee 10% of there population in agriculture we only need 1-2% of our population are employed in agriculture. We are a net exporter of food. Americans also waste a large proportion of food. We really don't need agriculture workers. Agriculture is pretty much a solved problem in America.


^^ not a farmer.


I love the confidence that MAGA has on all topics completely outside of their wheel house. Farming experts. Immunology experts. I can’t even tell you how many have told me (gov employee for most of my career in two branches) how the government runs having never been employed in government. Nice to see farming added to the list. I’m sure he’s driven by a farm at one point in his life so he knows farming.
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Anonymous wrote:Who will pick our cotton??!!?


You know the answer to that. Stop playing. The same people who picked it before. Prison labor which is 99% black, so....

And, luckily for them, slavery is still legal for prisoners.
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