What *should* Democrats be doing?

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

And it’s also not fiction that an entire generation was educationally destroyed because of the closures. The data is relentless.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

Or, they would have gone through natural immunity, like everyone should have.

[Anonymous]

The Democratic Party is just a lite version of the Republican Party of George Bush. The freedom caucus has pushed out the neocons of Wall Street to the Demcratic party where the likes of the Obama’s and Clinton’s and are awarded 7 figure speaking fees.

Did you see who attended the wedding of Huma Abedin to Alex Soros last weekend? It was highlighted in the Vogue which is telling in on itself.

They are really one and the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff's title post today was spot on, as usual. He stated that Democrats are twiddling their thumbs as a four-alarm fire engulfs our democracy. He pointed out a lot of what Democrats should not be doing, which is all correct. He mentioned that Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez went and spoke and drew huge crowds. Great.

What *should* other democrats be doing? Can we get specific and then demand it? I agree that vetoing the crypto bill is obvious. What else? Can they bring Congress to a standstill? BArnstorm the nation? Protest in the streets? What next in the leadership of the moment?

How about finding common ground on Republican policies, getting them passed, and making America great again. Dems will find that passing popular policies will lead to election wins.

Like secured borders?

I'm forgetting the candidate, but there was a debate where he said(lied), "We have the same position on X".

Democrats need to do this with immigration. Instead, they oppose Trump everywhere, and claim that Trump prevented a solution on the border.
Biden let in 62,000 people at the border in May 2024. Trump let in 0. This was a choice, and that supposed bipartisan bill would have just codified the lawlessness into law.
Trump fixed it without needing a bill.

How will Democrats tell the country that it won't happen again.

"We have the same position as Trump on immigration."

Well said. Democrats have proven themselves to be nothing, but liars. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff's title post today was spot on, as usual. He stated that Democrats are twiddling their thumbs as a four-alarm fire engulfs our democracy. He pointed out a lot of what Democrats should not be doing, which is all correct. He mentioned that Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez went and spoke and drew huge crowds. Great.

What *should* other democrats be doing? Can we get specific and then demand it? I agree that vetoing the crypto bill is obvious. What else? Can they bring Congress to a standstill? BArnstorm the nation? Protest in the streets? What next in the leadership of the moment?

How about finding common ground on Republican policies, getting them passed, and making America great again. Dems will find that passing popular policies will lead to election wins.

Like secured borders?

I'm forgetting the candidate, but there was a debate where he said(lied), "We have the same position on X".

Democrats need to do this with immigration. Instead, they oppose Trump everywhere, and claim that Trump prevented a solution on the border.
Biden let in 62,000 people at the border in May 2024. Trump let in 0. This was a choice, and that supposed bipartisan bill would have just codified the lawlessness into law.
Trump fixed it without needing a bill.

How will Democrats tell the country that it won't happen again.

"We have the same position as Trump on immigration."

He didn’t need a bill? Read the Constitution and tell me who has been tasked with making immigration law.

[Anonymous]

More AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Newsom, Buttigieg, Ossoff, and Pritzker.

Less Jeffries, Schumer, and the rest of the milquetoast lite Republicans BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

And it’s also not fiction that an entire generation was educationally destroyed because of the closures. The data is relentless.

You are quite hyperbolic with your "aN EnTIRe GeNERaTion WaS DESTRoYEDDDD!!!!!!11!!" commentary.

Yes, it is true that there is data that shows some kids fell a year behind. Some, but not remotely all. And the data also shows that the ones who fell behind were either younger students who didn't yet have a strong foundation to begin with, or who already had developmental issues, or who had no support at home. Sadly that's a much bigger issue than school closures - that there are parents who don't bother to parent, who don't read to their kids, who don't help their kids with their homework, who think the schools should do it all, or who just don't give enough of a damn about their kids to begin with. That's in the "relentless data" if you bother to read it.

But that said, kids have been back in school for a while now and many of those who did fall behind have caught up again. Recovery funds were provided to help get kids caught again. However it's also telling that many of the kids still struggling tend to be red states. That is what your "relentless" data also shows. Rather than railing about "SLeePYJoEBiDeN RuINeD My KiD" maybe you should instead focus more on doing your own part to help kids because guess what, a lot of these parents still can't be bothered to do any parenting with Trump as President either. And for the record, I myself am parent of a kid who went through the pandemic - and my kid came out of it just fine.

And by the way, there's another key piece of "relentless data" - that's the contact tracing data that shows that schools were one of the places with the HIGHEST rates of COVID transmission. Meanwhile, whether you like it or not, it's also a fact that the decisions on how long to stay closed was a local school district decision, not something commanded down from an ivory tower by Anthony Fauci. Ultimately, however, the consensus by those who actually studied it and collected the data after the fact is NOT "we should never have closed the schools" but rather that hybrid or targeted closures combined with strong safety protocols would have balanced the tradeoffs between public health and educating kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Newsom, Buttigieg, Ossoff, and Pritzker.

Less Jeffries, Schumer, and the rest of the milquetoast lite Republicans BS.

Agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

And it’s also not fiction that an entire generation was educationally destroyed because of the closures. The data is relentless.

You are quite hyperbolic with your "aN EnTIRe GeNERaTion WaS DESTRoYEDDDD!!!!!!11!!" commentary.

Yes, it is true that there is data that shows some kids fell a year behind. Some, but not remotely all. And the data also shows that the ones who fell behind were either younger students who didn't yet have a strong foundation to begin with, or who already had developmental issues, or who had no support at home. Sadly that's a much bigger issue than school closures - that there are parents who don't bother to parent, who don't read to their kids, who don't help their kids with their homework, who think the schools should do it all, or who just don't give enough of a damn about their kids to begin with. That's in the "relentless data" if you bother to read it.

But that said, kids have been back in school for a while now and many of those who did fall behind have caught up again. Recovery funds were provided to help get kids caught again. However it's also telling that many of the kids still struggling tend to be red states. That is what your "relentless" data also shows. Rather than railing about "SLeePYJoEBiDeN RuINeD My KiD" maybe you should instead focus more on doing your own part to help kids because guess what, a lot of these parents still can't be bothered to do any parenting with Trump as President either. And for the record, I myself am parent of a kid who went through the pandemic - and my kid came out of it just fine.

And by the way, there's another key piece of "relentless data" - that's the contact tracing data that shows that schools were one of the places with the HIGHEST rates of COVID transmission. Meanwhile, whether you like it or not, it's also a fact that the decisions on how long to stay closed was a local school district decision, not something commanded down from an ivory tower by Anthony Fauci. Ultimately, however, the consensus by those who actually studied it and collected the data after the fact is NOT "we should never have closed the schools" but rather that hybrid or targeted closures combined with strong safety protocols would have balanced the tradeoffs between public health and educating kids.

Oh. You are irrational. I guess that’s who the Democrats attract these days.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

And it’s also not fiction that an entire generation was educationally destroyed because of the closures. The data is relentless.

You are quite hyperbolic with your "aN EnTIRe GeNERaTion WaS DESTRoYEDDDD!!!!!!11!!" commentary.

Yes, it is true that there is data that shows some kids fell a year behind. Some, but not remotely all. And the data also shows that the ones who fell behind were either younger students who didn't yet have a strong foundation to begin with, or who already had developmental issues, or who had no support at home. Sadly that's a much bigger issue than school closures - that there are parents who don't bother to parent, who don't read to their kids, who don't help their kids with their homework, who think the schools should do it all, or who just don't give enough of a damn about their kids to begin with. That's in the "relentless data" if you bother to read it.

But that said, kids have been back in school for a while now and many of those who did fall behind have caught up again. Recovery funds were provided to help get kids caught again. However it's also telling that many of the kids still struggling tend to be red states. That is what your "relentless" data also shows. Rather than railing about "SLeePYJoEBiDeN RuINeD My KiD" maybe you should instead focus more on doing your own part to help kids because guess what, a lot of these parents still can't be bothered to do any parenting with Trump as President either. And for the record, I myself am parent of a kid who went through the pandemic - and my kid came out of it just fine.

And by the way, there's another key piece of "relentless data" - that's the contact tracing data that shows that schools were one of the places with the HIGHEST rates of COVID transmission. Meanwhile, whether you like it or not, it's also a fact that the decisions on how long to stay closed was a local school district decision, not something commanded down from an ivory tower by Anthony Fauci. Ultimately, however, the consensus by those who actually studied it and collected the data after the fact is NOT "we should never have closed the schools" but rather that hybrid or targeted closures combined with strong safety protocols would have balanced the tradeoffs between public health and educating kids.

Oh. You are irrational. I guess that’s who the Democrats attract these days.

DP...care to refute any of the PP's points, or are you content with lobbing personal insults?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Newsom, Buttigieg, Ossoff, and Pritzker.

Less Jeffries, Schumer, and the rest of the milquetoast lite Republicans BS.

Agree!

where do I begin. You are naming a whole group of people who hate everyone yes hate everyone. No thanks for those political figures to gain more power. Newsom has single handily ruined Ca. We are talking completely ruined.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re all a bunch of Tappers in this thread. You sure rode it high on Biden’s market. Complacent and self important. Sure, everyone’s an armchair quarterback now. Snap the fck out of it!

I’ll fight like hell, care for my community, and continue to focus on doing everything possible for the blue wave midterms. Do something!

Just because you're rich and insulated doesn't mean everyone else is. Democrats are bleeding because the leadership is overwhelmingly people like you who are insulated from real life.

Under Biden, I and many moms I know lost our jobs, went part time, took paycuts, passed up or got denied promotions, and suffered other career consequences that had major financial impacts because of school closures and Covid policy that went on way too long. Inflation hurt a lot of families. The stock market rebound is such a stupid measure for well-being in a country in which most people have no money in the stock market.

Well, if you’re white, DEI didn’t save you, so expect things to get worse.

DEI benefitted white women the most, which is quite sad frankly.

Also, Biden prioritized inflation over jobs so more white woken like you didn’t lose their jobs. Odd that you’re in a big group of job losses. That’s unusual. Though I’m not sure how you’re not getting a promotion, after you got fired, is Biden’s fault?

Yes, and the school closures were during Trump’s first administration, not Biden’s.

The EXCESSIVE school closures were the fault of blue-state governors and teachers unions. Neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for those.

If schools had been open during that time, parents like you would have been sending sick kids to school and making everyone else sick. This would have resulted in whole classes having to stay home constantly--rolling de facto closures. Some staff and kids would have died. This is not fiction.

And it’s also not fiction that an entire generation was educationally destroyed because of the closures. The data is relentless.

You are quite hyperbolic with your "aN EnTIRe GeNERaTion WaS DESTRoYEDDDD!!!!!!11!!" commentary.

Yes, it is true that there is data that shows some kids fell a year behind. Some, but not remotely all. And the data also shows that the ones who fell behind were either younger students who didn't yet have a strong foundation to begin with, or who already had developmental issues, or who had no support at home. Sadly that's a much bigger issue than school closures - that there are parents who don't bother to parent, who don't read to their kids, who don't help their kids with their homework, who think the schools should do it all, or who just don't give enough of a damn about their kids to begin with. That's in the "relentless data" if you bother to read it.

But that said, kids have been back in school for a while now and many of those who did fall behind have caught up again. Recovery funds were provided to help get kids caught again. However it's also telling that many of the kids still struggling tend to be red states. That is what your "relentless" data also shows. Rather than railing about "SLeePYJoEBiDeN RuINeD My KiD" maybe you should instead focus more on doing your own part to help kids because guess what, a lot of these parents still can't be bothered to do any parenting with Trump as President either. And for the record, I myself am parent of a kid who went through the pandemic - and my kid came out of it just fine.

And by the way, there's another key piece of "relentless data" - that's the contact tracing data that shows that schools were one of the places with the HIGHEST rates of COVID transmission. Meanwhile, whether you like it or not, it's also a fact that the decisions on how long to stay closed was a local school district decision, not something commanded down from an ivory tower by Anthony Fauci. Ultimately, however, the consensus by those who actually studied it and collected the data after the fact is NOT "we should never have closed the schools" but rather that hybrid or targeted closures combined with strong safety protocols would have balanced the tradeoffs between public health and educating kids.

Oh. You are irrational. I guess that’s who the Democrats attract these days.

Thank you for confirming that to MAGA, citing what shows up in data is "irrational."

Up is down, red is blue in MAGA land.

[Anonymous]

They should be crowing 24/7 that MAGA voted for America first and no foreign wars! So how did that work out for you? And also having no job, a retirement fund that’s down, and cancer?