Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

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Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


What about the smart people who saw the true colors of our awful two major political parties long ago and no longer associate with them? Are we all bigots too or might some of us actually be good people?
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Anonymous wrote:It's a good political move. It appears that Trump has found a well of dissatisfaction with the elite education institutions. I mean who isn't fed up with the Ivies.


Haha. What great institutions are worthy of educating your little superstars? let us know.


Towson, Louisburg, Kent State, Belmont


Suit yourself. All fine institutions but I'm not sure any program at those universities would out rank the instruction offered at Harvard and the financial aid at Harvard is significant.

If you can get your little brat into Harvard and you make less than $200, 000 per year, you do not have to pay tuition and they also offer aid for room and board. These are grants not loans.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


This is bullsh*t. Dems are not racist against Asians and do believe in merit. We just believe that everyone should at least get a chance to compete. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they do not believe in merit. Look at Trump's cabinet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


This is bullsh*t. Dems are not racist against Asians and do believe in merit. We just believe that everyone should at least get a chance to compete. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they do not believe in merit. Look at Trump's cabinet.


Yep. Only in the upside down is it considered racist to try broaden the opportunities for everyone. Mind boggling.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


What about the smart people who saw the true colors of our awful two major political parties long ago and no longer associate with them? Are we all bigots too or might some of us actually be good people?


It's there a candidate I can vote for that is being nominated by these smart people?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


This is bullsh*t. Dems are not racist against Asians and do believe in merit. We just believe that everyone should at least get a chance to compete. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they do not believe in merit. Look at Trump's cabinet.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


Are you really so unaware that these tax dollars are used for medical and scientific research. Think Salk polio vaccine, the HPV, or, the latest, the mRNA vaccines for COVID. There is a chance that the mRNA vaccine may be able to be used for pancreatic cancer, which is nearly always a death sentence.


I thought the world was overpopulated? Isn’t death a necessary event? Why prolong death if you cannot prevent aging? Not to mention you don’t want MAGA to continue living so you??? Who do you think gets pancreatic cancer?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


Not true at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


Are you really so unaware that these tax dollars are used for medical and scientific research. Think Salk polio vaccine, the HPV, or, the latest, the mRNA vaccines for COVID. There is a chance that the mRNA vaccine may be able to be used for pancreatic cancer, which is nearly always a death sentence.


I thought the world was overpopulated? Isn’t death a necessary event? Why prolong death if you cannot prevent aging? Not to mention you don’t want MAGA to continue living so you??? Who do you think gets pancreatic cancer?


Why stop a cancer. Let's just go back to smallpox and polio and measles and all the rest of it. I guess that's when America was great!
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


What about the smart people who saw the true colors of our awful two major political parties long ago and no longer associate with them? Are we all bigots too or might some of us actually be good people?


It's there a candidate I can vote for that is being nominated by these smart people?


Those people were forced to settle for Harris as the lesser of two evils thanks to the Biden disaster and the much more awful GOP nominee.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


This is bullsh*t. Dems are not racist against Asians and do believe in merit. We just believe that everyone should at least get a chance to compete. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they do not believe in merit. Look at Trump's cabinet.


Not all Democrats are racist against Asians but they all tolerate discrimination against Asians and they all subscribe to the hierarchy of oppression over the hierarchy of competence.

The woke left do not believe in giving everyone a chance to compete, they want to see proportional results along racial lines and that means discrimination against Asians. Spin it however you want, we saw the evidence on the Harvard lawsuit.

Trump is a weird corner case. Before he was elected nobody would have considered him a credible Republican candidate but Trump realized that the Democrats had driven away all but the wokest of the working class and now we have a bunch of previously democratically aligned unions aligning with Republicans.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a transformative opportunity to shift R&D money from top privates to top publics permanently and improve public education with public funds.

Harvards can do whatever they want with their own billions.


Guess you missed headlines like this one: https://www.thegazette.com/higher-education/iowa-states-decades-old-industrial-research-center-loses-federal-funding/

"the Iowa State University-based Center for Industrial Research and Service learned last week that the federal government is halting its funding — effective immediately — “because it is no longer aligned with the priorities of the administration.”

So, the administration that allegedly wants to bring back industry and manufacturing with tariffs is also saying research to support that same thing is not aligned with priorities. Hmmm.
Anonymous
I can disagree all day long about policy decisions. There are merits on many sides, as long as the policies are offered in good faith and not some cult agenda. If they want to withdraw grants to Harvard, it's their money and they can I suppose. No different than withdrawing all the federal grants to domestic violence programs, right? Might as well just let them all fester...

But what Trump is doing now is 100% thought policing. Threatening to remove their tax-exempt status is a whole other level. If it's OK for churches to have tax exempt status, it should 1000% be OK for any university to maintain tax exempt status without agreeing to these BS conditions.

Why can't people understand the Constitution?
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Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.


Most people that typically support Democrats will admit that nominating Biden in 2020 was a mistake because his unfitness wound up making it possible for an even bigger mistake to win a second POTUS term in 2024. Being honest with yourself by admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence that leads to not repeating mistakes. Very few people who mistakenly supported Trump have admitted to their mistake and most of them have repeated that mistake.

What does all this mean? The average Dem is a few notches up the IQ ladder from the average Republican.


Agree that admitting mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Comparing one party to another is ridiculous. Side A being slightly less ((bad characteristic)) than side B on an issue doesn’t mean that side Ą is good. What the PP upthread failed to understand is that some do-good policies at Harvard lead to discriminatory behaviors. They cannot see that because they see that is somehow exempts them from criticism and feel the need to shut down such comments. THAT is also totalitarian behavior. Free speech is only free if it supports the correct side (or the side in office).


Please tell us which "side" is "correct". All we've had to witness in recent years is a bunch of pathetic losers losing to another group of pathetic losers.


The side that doesn't discriminate based on race


Nice try but that factor eliminates both "sides" from the realm of righteousness.


And so it should. A pox on both their houses. But they discriminate against different groups so it yield different results.

Republicans are nativist, white supremacists, racist against urm, and anti intellectual.

Democrats are elitist, white supremacist, racist against Asians, bigoted against pre and working class whites, and anti merit.

There are no good options just the least of two evils.


This is bullsh*t. Dems are not racist against Asians and do believe in merit. We just believe that everyone should at least get a chance to compete. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they do not believe in merit. Look at Trump's cabinet.


Not all Democrats are racist against Asians but they all tolerate discrimination against Asians and they all subscribe to the hierarchy of oppression over the hierarchy of competence.

The woke left do not believe in giving everyone a chance to compete, they want to see proportional results along racial lines and that means discrimination against Asians. Spin it however you want, we saw the evidence on the Harvard lawsuit.

Trump is a weird corner case. Before he was elected nobody would have considered him a credible Republican candidate but Trump realized that the Democrats had driven away all but the wokest of the working class and now we have a bunch of previously democratically aligned unions aligning with Republicans.


Most people who still identify as Republicans and Democrats are dumb but a much smaller portion of them are truly racist. The ones that haven't evolved from their racist ancestors are the scum of the Earth and need to be exterminated.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a good political move. It appears that Trump has found a well of dissatisfaction with the elite education institutions. I mean who isn't fed up with the Ivies.


Haha. What great institutions are worthy of educating your little superstars? let us know.


Towson, Louisburg, Kent State, Belmont


Suit yourself. All fine institutions but I'm not sure any program at those universities would out rank the instruction offered at Harvard and the financial aid at Harvard is significant.

If you can get your little brat into Harvard and you make less than $200, 000 per year, you do not have to pay tuition and they also offer aid for room and board. These are grants not loans.


I don't think the content of the courses offered differ much, there was an article on it. I'd have AI it. Literally the same books. It's the annoying thing about the Harvard cult. We studied all the same things they did if you're Asian or some other undesirable, you might even have better test scores and GPA. The degrees we get just aren't worth much.
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