Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Yes! They should be Stricker. Now families who are not US citizens , lived their live outside of Us, are coming to receive FA and then returning to home country.

So only FA to families born in the US? Even if the kids are legal residents?

US citizens? Yes!
Legal residents, green card and visa holders, and undocumented residents? No. Public school or pay the full tuition.

So kids born in the us, legal residents and citizens, with ilegal parents probably don’t deserve any FA because their parents might be deported, right?

That is laughable. My spouse is a legal permanent resident and I am a US citizen. Spouse makes more money than me and we get financial aid from two Big 3 schools for our children (US citizens). Spouse has to file taxes on all income just like Americans do so that logic makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads continue to prove that DCUM has no idea what poverty actually looks like. What everyone is describing as “poor” are actually lower middle class families who prioritize private education so they limit vacations, drive old cars, use public transit, etc. They need FA to close the gap and make private school a possibility.

I grew up poor. I never went on vacation until I went to WV with a boyfriend in high school to visit his family. Vacations aren’t something poor ppl don’t do some years. It something they can’t afford to do ever.

Well said. Couldn’t agree more.

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Yes! They should be Stricker. Now families who are not US citizens , lived their live outside of Us, are coming to receive FA and then returning to home country.

So only FA to families born in the US? Even if the kids are legal residents?

US citizens? Yes!
Legal residents, green card and visa holders, and undocumented residents? No. Public school or pay the full tuition.

So kids born in the us, legal residents and citizens, with ilegal parents probably don’t deserve any FA because their parents might be deported, right?

That is laughable. My spouse is a legal permanent resident and I am a US citizen. Spouse makes more money than me and we get financial aid from two Big 3 schools for our children (US citizens). Spouse has to file taxes on all income just like Americans do so that logic makes no sense.

It’s like Rihanna, who’s not American said in response to anti immigrant sentiment “I come here to work and pay taxes. You’re welcome”. And Rihanna I’m sure pays a lot of taxes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Yes! They should be Stricker. Now families who are not US citizens , lived their live outside of Us, are coming to receive FA and then returning to home country.

So only FA to families born in the US? Even if the kids are legal residents?

US citizens? Yes!
Legal residents, green card and visa holders, and undocumented residents? No. Public school or pay the full tuition.

So kids born in the us, legal residents and citizens, with ilegal parents probably don’t deserve any FA because their parents might be deported, right?

That is laughable. My spouse is a legal permanent resident and I am a US citizen. Spouse makes more money than me and we get financial aid from two Big 3 schools for our children (US citizens). Spouse has to file taxes on all income just like Americans do so that logic makes no sense.

It’s like Rihanna, who’s not American said in response to anti immigrant sentiment “I come here to work and pay taxes. You’re welcome”. And Rihanna I’m sure pays a lot of taxes.

Legal permanent resident can do everything a citizen can except vote. If they commit a serious crime yes they can be deported. But law abiding good folks who otherwise are doing things the legal way should get FA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FA policies at university and college are different than what can reasonably be expected at small private schools like those in the DMV. The private schools do not have the endowments to be able to offer admission need blind and many cannot even offer full scholarships. I'm not sure why PP keeps bringing back the comparison to what the Ivys are doing.

That’s precisely my point. FA aid resources are limited. Should priority be given to low income families? What’s so difficult to understand?

It should be given to those who qualifed and with academic merit. Also there needs to be a list of criteria as to how someone if qualify for FA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Yes! They should be Stricker. Now families who are not US citizens , lived their live outside of Us, are coming to receive FA and then returning to home country.

So only FA to families born in the US? Even if the kids are legal residents?

US citizens? Yes!
Legal residents, green card and visa holders, and undocumented residents? No. Public school or pay the full tuition.

So kids born in the us, legal residents and citizens, with ilegal parents probably don’t deserve any FA because their parents might be deported, right?

That is laughable. My spouse is a legal permanent resident and I am a US citizen. Spouse makes more money than me and we get financial aid from two Big 3 schools for our children (US citizens). Spouse has to file taxes on all income just like Americans do so that logic makes no sense.

Agree. I was ironic with the anti immigrant poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FA policies at university and college are different than what can reasonably be expected at small private schools like those in the DMV. The private schools do not have the endowments to be able to offer admission need blind and many cannot even offer full scholarships. I'm not sure why PP keeps bringing back the comparison to what the Ivys are doing.

That’s precisely my point. FA aid resources are limited. Should priority be given to low income families? What’s so difficult to understand?

It should be given to those who qualifed and with academic merit. Also there needs to be a list of criteria as to how someone if qualify for FA.

Low income with academic merit. There are plenty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Yes! They should be Stricker. Now families who are not US citizens , lived their live outside of Us, are coming to receive FA and then returning to home country.

So only FA to families born in the US? Even if the kids are legal residents?

US citizens? Yes!
Legal residents, green card and visa holders, and undocumented residents? No. Public school or pay the full tuition.

It has nothing to be with deported. Example parent who are citizens of somewhere in Europe, or Asia and move for work bring their kids. They apply to private and reduce the FA given to US citizens children. WIS is noted for this. We have US parents taking out loans because they get reduced FA. We are not responsible for non- us citizens kids to pay private tuition.



So kids born in the us, legal residents and citizens, with ilegal parents probably don’t deserve any FA because their parents might be deported, right?

I got your point. But I guess us citizens can also move abroad. Is that acceptable but foreigners moving abroad not?

US citizen move abroad will not FA, they will need to pay or attend public .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads continue to prove that DCUM has no idea what poverty actually looks like. What everyone is describing as “poor” are actually lower middle class families who prioritize private education so they limit vacations, drive old cars, use public transit, etc. They need FA to close the gap and make private school a possibility.

I grew up poor. I never went on vacation until I went to WV with a boyfriend in high school to visit his family. Vacations aren’t something poor ppl don’t do some years. It something they can’t afford to do ever.

But posters here don’t even want lower middle income families in their schools and less low income. That’s my point. Move to a financial aid system prioritizing low income families.

You’re looking to create what’s described as a barbell effect simply to make yourself feel good. This has been studied and is generally not considered a desirable outcome.

Yes, let’s give financial aid to wealthy families and exclude low income families. Makes total sense!

[Anonymous]

In America many of the reasonable who work and save subsidize those that live irrational lifestyles.

It's just the way it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Most of these families aren't real middle class. Yes, there should be savings and housing limits, they should look at income and spending. And, they should give more aid to low income families who really deserve it. You shouldn't get to live in a million dollar house and get aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads continue to prove that DCUM has no idea what poverty actually looks like. What everyone is describing as “poor” are actually lower middle class families who prioritize private education so they limit vacations, drive old cars, use public transit, etc. They need FA to close the gap and make private school a possibility.

I grew up poor. I never went on vacation until I went to WV with a boyfriend in high school to visit his family. Vacations aren’t something poor ppl don’t do some years. It something they can’t afford to do ever.

But posters here don’t even want lower middle income families in their schools and less low income. That’s my point. Move to a financial aid system prioritizing low income families.

You’re looking to create what’s described as a barbell effect simply to make yourself feel good. This has been studied and is generally not considered a desirable outcome.

Yes, let’s give financial aid to wealthy families and exclude low income families. Makes total sense!

These families are not low income. Low income aren't welcome at these schools. How many kids do you know at these privates on food stamps, section 8, medicaid? None. Those are the deserving kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In America many of the reasonable who work and save subsidize those that live irrational lifestyles.

It's just the way it is.

So the implication for financial aid is ?….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads continue to prove that DCUM has no idea what poverty actually looks like. What everyone is describing as “poor” are actually lower middle class families who prioritize private education so they limit vacations, drive old cars, use public transit, etc. They need FA to close the gap and make private school a possibility.

I grew up poor. I never went on vacation until I went to WV with a boyfriend in high school to visit his family. Vacations aren’t something poor ppl don’t do some years. It something they can’t afford to do ever.

But posters here don’t even want lower middle income families in their schools and less low income. That’s my point. Move to a financial aid system prioritizing low income families.

You’re looking to create what’s described as a barbell effect simply to make yourself feel good. This has been studied and is generally not considered a desirable outcome.

Yes, let’s give financial aid to wealthy families and exclude low income families. Makes total sense!

These families are not low income. Low income aren't welcome at these schools. How many kids do you know at these privates on food stamps, section 8, medicaid? None. Those are the deserving kids.

I agree! Solidarity is so much out of fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see a lot of schools devoting a lot of effort in fundraising for financial aid, and the importance of financial to support diversity and families in need.

However, when I see the families that are using financial aid I see only upper middle class families with several children, and not even top performers.

Shouldn’t fínancial aid be stricter (let’s say truly low income households) and perhaps the brightest or athletic chidlren from middle class families.

In its current form (at least in my children’s school) the financial aid looks pretty much like a giveaway for well off parents. Does anyone observe the same pattern?

Most of these families aren't real middle class. Yes, there should be savings and housing limits, they should look at income and spending. And, they should give more aid to low income families who really deserve it. You shouldn't get to live in a million dollar house and get aid.

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