Would you ever breed your purebred dog? Why or why not?

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Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


They don't all "hang on when they bite", and if you've ever watched a GSD/Malinois "hold", you'd know they do, too. They don't have the highest bite pressure, either: https://topdogtips.com/dogs-strongest-bite-force/

Why do places ban pits? I can't say for sure, but I have a guess. I live in a country where people are banning "trans" and "woman" and a hundred other completely benign words, so I suspect politics may have something to do with it. Shrill harpies like you get it in their heads that pits need to be banned, even though breed bans don't even work, and the mob gets the torches and pitchforks... voila! Stupid legislation! Same with your incessant "but why are there so many?!" comments. Because there's no license to breed dogs here, and even if there were, there aren't nearly enough animal control officers to enforce it. You don't want to pay for that, and you wouldn't like the way it raises the overall cost of dog ownership.

I mean, I almost hate to point this out, but the reason is, once again, in a word: you.



Is this list a joke? Most of the list are dog breeds I’ve never even heard of, and that most people in the US have no risk of adopting.

And yes Rottweiler is on the list. Sure, most people aren’t looking for a Rott as a family pet. But I’ll add, I don’t see them or any of these other breeds in rescues. Almost always just pits. Why is that? You’re really claiming it’s bc of ME? I find that funny
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Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.


Well, who cares why? You need a mutt that's not obviously pit - you'll find it, there is plenty of info
Yes, you'll probably pay $500 to a rescue, not $150 to county shelter, but it's peanuts compared to the cost of dog ownership.

Here is my favorite mutt of this month - come and meet her and other non-pit dogs at Falls Church PetSmart on Sunday (there would be plenty of pits too, obviously)
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=20967147&key=Mqr6gy1W


The dog is cute, of course. I’ve already found a dog, but again, the point is that rescues seem to be full of pits. Why do you think that is?

No one on here said they expect dog ownership to be cheap. But again, there should be something in between a 5k show dog and a pit mix that many people don’t want for safety concerns.

Do you disagree?

I just showed you example of the dog in between $5k show dog and pit mix, healthy balanced young mutt (she's no shepherd either). There are about 50 of them at Lucky dog as of now (other 50 are pits, granted).
So, yeah, I disagree. You can find what you’re looking for at any given time, just open your eyes.


How do you know those dogs are healthy and balanced?


Not pp, but I've spent decades working with shelters and rescues. Volunteers evaluate dogs on a variety criteria before ever offering them to the public (some are never offered for adoption at all).

Maybe instead of hating pit-bulls (so basic!) you could educate yourself on what the 5 breeds that fall under that heading are actually know for: https://www.akc.org/akctemptest/breed-temperament-guide/


Other people indicated many rescues seem to grab dogs from shelters (free or cheap) and then move them to rescues to sell. I’ve noticed the dogs are $450 or so in rescues which is not nothing. Kinda steep for many people, no? I understand it costs money to run a rescue, but considering the vast majority of dogs seem to be pit mixes, and the non pits get adopted quickly, it seems the overhead $ raised is mostly going to pits and their care. So really the issue is being driven by irresponsible pit bull owners who don’t fix their animals and of course some also encourage aggression in them. And then of course also dump them.

If you’re a true animal lover, shouldn’t your focus be on these irresponsible owners? Instead of chastising people who don’t want a pit as a family pet and accusing them of being the problem? It just seems like you’ve got it all backwards and are contributing to the problem you claim to care about fixing.
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From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here


‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’
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Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


They don't all "hang on when they bite", and if you've ever watched a GSD/Malinois "hold", you'd know they do, too. They don't have the highest bite pressure, either: https://topdogtips.com/dogs-strongest-bite-force/

Why do places ban pits? I can't say for sure, but I have a guess. I live in a country where people are banning "trans" and "woman" and a hundred other completely benign words, so I suspect politics may have something to do with it. Shrill harpies like you get it in their heads that pits need to be banned, even though breed bans don't even work, and the mob gets the torches and pitchforks... voila! Stupid legislation! Same with your incessant "but why are there so many?!" comments. Because there's no license to breed dogs here, and even if there were, there aren't nearly enough animal control officers to enforce it. You don't want to pay for that, and you wouldn't like the way it raises the overall cost of dog ownership.

I mean, I almost hate to point this out, but the reason is, once again, in a word: you.



Is this list a joke? Most of the list are dog breeds I’ve never even heard of, and that most people in the US have no risk of adopting.

And yes Rottweiler is on the list. Sure, most people aren’t looking for a Rott as a family pet. But I’ll add, I don’t see them or any of these other breeds in rescues. Almost always just pits. Why is that? You’re really claiming it’s bc of ME? I find that funny


You're the sort of clueless idiot who'd probably call 3, 4, 7, and 8 "pit bulls".

You can't take a point, you can't take a hint, you don't learn, you're just here to... what, exactly? what is the end goal of your ongoing trolling?
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Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.


Well, who cares why? You need a mutt that's not obviously pit - you'll find it, there is plenty of info
Yes, you'll probably pay $500 to a rescue, not $150 to county shelter, but it's peanuts compared to the cost of dog ownership.

Here is my favorite mutt of this month - come and meet her and other non-pit dogs at Falls Church PetSmart on Sunday (there would be plenty of pits too, obviously)
https://toolkit.rescuegroups.org/javascript/v2.0/template1?animalID=20967147&key=Mqr6gy1W


The dog is cute, of course. I’ve already found a dog, but again, the point is that rescues seem to be full of pits. Why do you think that is?

No one on here said they expect dog ownership to be cheap. But again, there should be something in between a 5k show dog and a pit mix that many people don’t want for safety concerns.

Do you disagree?

I just showed you example of the dog in between $5k show dog and pit mix, healthy balanced young mutt (she's no shepherd either). There are about 50 of them at Lucky dog as of now (other 50 are pits, granted).
So, yeah, I disagree. You can find what you’re looking for at any given time, just open your eyes.


How do you know those dogs are healthy and balanced?


Not pp, but I've spent decades working with shelters and rescues. Volunteers evaluate dogs on a variety criteria before ever offering them to the public (some are never offered for adoption at all).

Maybe instead of hating pit-bulls (so basic!) you could educate yourself on what the 5 breeds that fall under that heading are actually know for: https://www.akc.org/akctemptest/breed-temperament-guide/


Other people indicated many rescues seem to grab dogs from shelters (free or cheap) and then move them to rescues to sell. I’ve noticed the dogs are $450 or so in rescues which is not nothing. Kinda steep for many people, no? I understand it costs money to run a rescue, but considering the vast majority of dogs seem to be pit mixes, and the non pits get adopted quickly, it seems the overhead $ raised is mostly going to pits and their care. So really the issue is being driven by irresponsible pit bull owners who don’t fix their animals and of course some also encourage aggression in them. And then of course also dump them.

If you’re a true animal lover, shouldn’t your focus be on these irresponsible owners? Instead of chastising people who don’t want a pit as a family pet and accusing them of being the problem? It just seems like you’ve got it all backwards and are contributing to the problem you claim to care about fixing.


You are the forum's largest mess, and unable to make or stick to a valid point. What is the "a true animal lover" nonsense? You started a thread about one thing, got called out and shut down, pivoted to something else, smarter people tried to help you learn, you switched again...

It's like the only answer/reply that will satisfy you is "yes! kill all the pit bulls and their owners!"

Nobody is chastising people for simply not wanting a pit. People are correcting the nonsensical stereotypes and stupid reasons being used to prop up a decision that doesn't need propping up. If you don't want a pit, don't get one.

As for the bolded, why do you expect that a dog should be cheap? Who is supposed to subsidize the finding, transportatio/rehoming, care, feeding, veterinary evaluation, meds/shots/spay or neuter, admin work listing the dog so you can know it's available...? Why are you entitled to that labor for free? You're already getting volunteer labor for most rescues that use fosters, and a lot of the shelter dailies are done by volunteers as well. Why do you feel entitled to a cheap dog?

Dogs are a privilege, a luxury, not a right.
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Anonymous wrote:From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here


‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’


No, what's exhausting is that you keep muddying a decent point with your anti-pit hate.

Go after the backyard breeders of ALL dogs. Go after the unlicensed dogs. Create a mandatory license for all dog owners, and go after anyone who violates it. Demand proof of liability insurance coverage for all dog owners, and go after anyone found without it. Hire more animal control officers to enforce the leash and other laws we already have, and go after all the jerks who frequently violate them, regardless of what kind of breed they own.

But you keep trying to make it about "pit bulls", at which point, anyone with sense corrects your stupidity. If you make it about responsible dog ownership, regardless of breed, there's really no argument.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.


Oh I see you’ve joined this thread again after taking a fashion break…

And you still won’t answer a basic question. Why are rescues full of pits and shouldn’t the focus be on pit owners to solve the issue of too many dogs? Bc there doesn’t seem to be too many dogs to adopt where I am. It’s too many *pits* to adopt and people scramble to find other mixes.
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Anonymous wrote:From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here


‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’


No, what's exhausting is that you keep muddying a decent point with your anti-pit hate.

Go after the backyard breeders of ALL dogs. Go after the unlicensed dogs. Create a mandatory license for all dog owners, and go after anyone who violates it. Demand proof of liability insurance coverage for all dog owners, and go after anyone found without it. Hire more animal control officers to enforce the leash and other laws we already have, and go after all the jerks who frequently violate them, regardless of what kind of breed they own.

But you keep trying to make it about "pit bulls", at which point, anyone with sense corrects your stupidity. If you make it about responsible dog ownership, regardless of breed, there's really no argument.


I suspect your poster from other threads who flips out over training and leash laws etc. Of course dogs should be well trained and people should follow the law, but similar to other minor violations that happen all the time because people and dogs are not perfect and we can’t expect them to be 💯 of the time- Jay walking as example- a ‘mistake’ should not often result in severe injury or even death to a person or other animal. Thats the issue. A golden retriever owner may be an ass for letting their dog off leash who jumps on a kid, but it’s highly unlikely it will kill or maim that kid. See the difference? Ive been bit by dogs a number of times, but thankfully not been seriously injured. However I’ve known of 4 or so serious dog bite related injuries in my immediate life. One was a dachshund who was stepped on and was startled and bit, causing a facial injury that was serious but not life threatening. The other 3 were pit mixes and they caused serious life altering injuries and even death. See the difference?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here


‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’


No, what's exhausting is that you keep muddying a decent point with your anti-pit hate.

Go after the backyard breeders of ALL dogs. Go after the unlicensed dogs. Create a mandatory license for all dog owners, and go after anyone who violates it. Demand proof of liability insurance coverage for all dog owners, and go after anyone found without it. Hire more animal control officers to enforce the leash and other laws we already have, and go after all the jerks who frequently violate them, regardless of what kind of breed they own.

But you keep trying to make it about "pit bulls", at which point, anyone with sense corrects your stupidity. If you make it about responsible dog ownership, regardless of breed, there's really no argument.


I suspect your poster from other threads who flips out over training and leash laws etc. Of course dogs should be well trained and people should follow the law, but similar to other minor violations that happen all the time because people and dogs are not perfect and we can’t expect them to be 💯 of the time- Jay walking as example- a ‘mistake’ should not often result in severe injury or even death to a person or other animal. Thats the issue. A golden retriever owner may be an ass for letting their dog off leash who jumps on a kid, but it’s highly unlikely it will kill or maim that kid. See the difference? Ive been bit by dogs a number of times, but thankfully not been seriously injured. However I’ve known of 4 or so serious dog bite related injuries in my immediate life. One was a dachshund who was stepped on and was startled and bit, causing a facial injury that was serious but not life threatening. The other 3 were pit mixes and they caused serious life altering injuries and even death. See the difference?


I see a nonsensical argument from an ignorant person, offered in place of meaningful consideration of pp's reasonable suggestions.

It's highly unlikely that any dog of any breed will kill or maim a kid. You are making an emotional argument that has no basis in facts. You are then using your nonsense to excuse lawlessness, while making exceptions for the dog breeds you like.

This is an absolute trash position.
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Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.


Oh I see you’ve joined this thread again after taking a fashion break…

And you still won’t answer a basic question. Why are rescues full of pits and shouldn’t the focus be on pit owners to solve the issue of too many dogs? Bc there doesn’t seem to be too many dogs to adopt where I am. It’s too many *pits* to adopt and people scramble to find other mixes.


If this is your pet issue, make a thread about it. Don't try to hide it in the 9 other off-topic points you've raised in this thread. Then, when we give you the exact same answers you've already received more than once, maybe you'll be able to find them.

As for people "scrambling to find other mixes" this is the result of ignorance. Pit mixes are fine dogs. Only biased, unintelligent people think otherwise. I would allow for ignorance, but the proof to the contrary is all over multiple threads here and all over the rest of the internet, and some of you stubbornly refuse to evolve when given better information. If this results in a scarcity of dogs for people with poor critical thinking skills and worse knowledge of canine characteristics, well, I can't say I'll be too upset about that. Sorry you're missing out on a great dog because you'd rather cling to your cluelessness.
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Anonymous wrote:From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here


‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’


No, what's exhausting is that you keep muddying a decent point with your anti-pit hate.

Go after the backyard breeders of ALL dogs. Go after the unlicensed dogs. Create a mandatory license for all dog owners, and go after anyone who violates it. Demand proof of liability insurance coverage for all dog owners, and go after anyone found without it. Hire more animal control officers to enforce the leash and other laws we already have, and go after all the jerks who frequently violate them, regardless of what kind of breed they own.

But you keep trying to make it about "pit bulls", at which point, anyone with sense corrects your stupidity. If you make it about responsible dog ownership, regardless of breed, there's really no argument.


I suspect your poster from other threads who flips out over training and leash laws etc. Of course dogs should be well trained and people should follow the law, but similar to other minor violations that happen all the time because people and dogs are not perfect and we can’t expect them to be 💯 of the time- Jay walking as example- a ‘mistake’ should not often result in severe injury or even death to a person or other animal. Thats the issue. A golden retriever owner may be an ass for letting their dog off leash who jumps on a kid, but it’s highly unlikely it will kill or maim that kid. See the difference? Ive been bit by dogs a number of times, but thankfully not been seriously injured. However I’ve known of 4 or so serious dog bite related injuries in my immediate life. One was a dachshund who was stepped on and was startled and bit, causing a facial injury that was serious but not life threatening. The other 3 were pit mixes and they caused serious life altering injuries and even death. See the difference?


I see a nonsensical argument from an ignorant person, offered in place of meaningful consideration of pp's reasonable suggestions.

It's highly unlikely that any dog of any breed will kill or maim a kid. You are making an emotional argument that has no basis in facts. You are then using your nonsense to excuse lawlessness, while making exceptions for the dog breeds you like.

This is an absolute trash position.


Why is it a trash position? If that’s the case, why are there so many pits sitting in rescues and being put down? I feel sorry for them, it’s not their fault. But why don’t you focus more on their owners and breeders who don’t seem to spay and neuter them? You don’t see Goldens or even Rottweilers languishing unadopted, yet people think of Rottweiler as an aggressive breed. What’s wrong with pit owners that they can’t handle these dogs and have to dump them? Either it’s the dog or the owner or some combo of the two. So what is it?
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Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.


Oh I see you’ve joined this thread again after taking a fashion break…

And you still won’t answer a basic question. Why are rescues full of pits and shouldn’t the focus be on pit owners to solve the issue of too many dogs? Bc there doesn’t seem to be too many dogs to adopt where I am. It’s too many *pits* to adopt and people scramble to find other mixes.


If this is your pet issue, make a thread about it. Don't try to hide it in the 9 other off-topic points you've raised in this thread. Then, when we give you the exact same answers you've already received more than once, maybe you'll be able to find them.

As for people "scrambling to find other mixes" this is the result of ignorance. Pit mixes are fine dogs. Only biased, unintelligent people think otherwise. I would allow for ignorance, but the proof to the contrary is all over multiple threads here and all over the rest of the internet, and some of you stubbornly refuse to evolve when given better information. If this results in a scarcity of dogs for people with poor critical thinking skills and worse knowledge of canine characteristics, well, I can't say I'll be too upset about that. Sorry you're missing out on a great dog because you'd rather cling to your cluelessness.


If someone doesn’t want a certain breed of dog, they shouldn’t be forced to adopt it. So why aren’t you mad at the pit owners who let their dogs breed and dump them? Curious why your ire isn’t directed there
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Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.


Oh I see you’ve joined this thread again after taking a fashion break…

And you still won’t answer a basic question. Why are rescues full of pits and shouldn’t the focus be on pit owners to solve the issue of too many dogs? Bc there doesn’t seem to be too many dogs to adopt where I am. It’s too many *pits* to adopt and people scramble to find other mixes.


If this is your pet issue, make a thread about it. Don't try to hide it in the 9 other off-topic points you've raised in this thread. Then, when we give you the exact same answers you've already received more than once, maybe you'll be able to find them.

As for people "scrambling to find other mixes" this is the result of ignorance. Pit mixes are fine dogs. Only biased, unintelligent people think otherwise. I would allow for ignorance, but the proof to the contrary is all over multiple threads here and all over the rest of the internet, and some of you stubbornly refuse to evolve when given better information. If this results in a scarcity of dogs for people with poor critical thinking skills and worse knowledge of canine characteristics, well, I can't say I'll be too upset about that. Sorry you're missing out on a great dog because you'd rather cling to your cluelessness.


dogs similar in breed to that ‘great dog’ killed my neighbors cat, killed my other neighbors dog and maimed a third community member (its owner!) to the point they needed serious reconstructive surgery.

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Anonymous wrote:^^

Here’s an example of what most people find when they try to adopt

https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/dogs


No, pp is an example of someone who doesn't understand the difference between a shelter and a rescue organization and why they're different.

https://www.luckydoganimalrescue.org/adopt/animals
https://kninerescue.com/pets/
https://www.lcarescue.org/copy-of-dog-adoption-application
https://www.citydogsrescuedc.org/adopt-foster/adopt-a-dog/
https://www.peteyandfurends.org/adoptdogs

Anybody spot the difference? Do you need me to hold your hand for that (too)?


Who cares? Most people just want to adopt a nice dog for their family to care for. They don’t need to be experts on all things related to dog adoption. Why is it so hard and why are almost the only dogs in these places pit mixes? Either they aren’t as sweet and easy as you claim. Or pit owners are extremely irresponsible. Or both.



Ah, I see the problem. You have no idea what a "pit bull" even looks like. I can understand the confusion, as it's an umbrella term covering 5 distinct breeds. And then you add "pit mixes". And then you factor in some stereotyping that says none of the above could ever possibly be "a nice dog for (a) family to care for."

Maybe just get a cat?


Look at the post from the rescue posted above. Most people can spot the pit mixes by their jaws and bulk. That’s the issue. They are too strong and powerful and do too much damage when they’re triggered. And every dog has the potential to be triggered.


A "triggered" 80 lb lab is as much trouble as my 35-lb staffie mix, if not more. A "triggered" rottie, gsd, gp... If you're not strong enough to handle a big dog, that's one thing. But some of these "pit mixes" aren't as big as a standard lab, nor are their jaws.

Yes, every dog has the potential to be triggered. You either know how to train a dog or you don't. If you can train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're just dogs. If you can't train a dog, you'll have an untrained dog which will always be a liability. While I guess it's better that you not have an untrained pit bull, I don't want to encounter your untrained anything else either. People who are going to own a dog, of any breed, need to know how to train and handle their dog. People who can train and handle dogs can handle pit mixes, and even "pit bulls".


I think you’re being naive. Of course all dogs can make mistakes and do damage but the point is that pits often have very very strong jaws and can do a lot of damage. They also seem to hang on when they bite in a way that other dogs don’t. There are places and even countries that ban pits. Why do you think that is?


Learn something: https://www.arwob.org/info/file?file=s2148m6372.pdf


Why are you posting 5 times in a row?


Not only are you a shitposting troll, you can't even count.


Oh I see you’ve joined this thread again after taking a fashion break…

And you still won’t answer a basic question. Why are rescues full of pits and shouldn’t the focus be on pit owners to solve the issue of too many dogs? Bc there doesn’t seem to be too many dogs to adopt where I am. It’s too many *pits* to adopt and people scramble to find other mixes.


If this is your pet issue, make a thread about it. Don't try to hide it in the 9 other off-topic points you've raised in this thread. Then, when we give you the exact same answers you've already received more than once, maybe you'll be able to find them.

As for people "scrambling to find other mixes" this is the result of ignorance. Pit mixes are fine dogs. Only biased, unintelligent people think otherwise. I would allow for ignorance, but the proof to the contrary is all over multiple threads here and all over the rest of the internet, and some of you stubbornly refuse to evolve when given better information. If this results in a scarcity of dogs for people with poor critical thinking skills and worse knowledge of canine characteristics, well, I can't say I'll be too upset about that. Sorry you're missing out on a great dog because you'd rather cling to your cluelessness.


If someone doesn’t want a certain breed of dog, they shouldn’t be forced to adopt it. So why aren’t you mad at the pit owners who let their dogs breed and dump them? Curious why your ire isn’t directed there


nobody is being forced to adopt dogs.
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