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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From another pet post where someone asked why there are so many pits in shelters rescues.

Makes sense to me. This is what I see happening here

‘Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.’[/quote]

No, what's exhausting is that you keep muddying a decent point with your anti-pit hate.

Go after the backyard breeders of ALL dogs. Go after the unlicensed dogs. Create a mandatory license for all dog owners, and go after anyone who violates it. Demand proof of liability insurance coverage for all dog owners, and go after anyone found without it. Hire more animal control officers to enforce the leash and other laws we already have, and go after all the jerks who frequently violate them, regardless of what kind of breed they own.

But you keep trying to make it about "pit bulls", at which point, anyone with sense corrects your stupidity. If you make it about responsible dog ownership, regardless of breed, there's really no argument. [/quote]

I suspect your poster from other threads who flips out over training and leash laws etc. Of course dogs should be well trained and people should follow the law, but similar to other minor violations that happen all the time because people and dogs are not perfect and we can’t expect them to be 💯 of the time- Jay walking as example- a ‘mistake’ should not often result in severe injury or even death to a person or other animal. Thats the issue. A golden retriever owner may be an ass for letting their dog off leash who jumps on a kid, but it’s highly unlikely it will kill or maim that kid. See the difference? Ive been bit by dogs a number of times, but thankfully not been seriously injured. However I’ve known of 4 or so serious dog bite related injuries in my immediate life. One was a dachshund who was stepped on and was startled and bit, causing a facial injury that was serious but not life threatening. The other 3 were pit mixes and they caused serious life altering injuries and even death. See the difference? [/quote]

I see a nonsensical argument from an ignorant person, offered in place of meaningful consideration of pp's reasonable suggestions.

It's highly unlikely that any dog of any breed will kill or maim a kid. You are making an emotional argument that has no basis in facts. You are then using your nonsense to excuse lawlessness, while making exceptions for the dog breeds you like.

This is an absolute trash position.[/quote]

Why is it a trash position? If that’s the case, why are there so many pits sitting in rescues and being put down? I feel sorry for them, it’s not their fault. But why don’t you focus more on their owners and breeders who don’t seem to spay and neuter them? You don’t see Goldens or even Rottweilers languishing unadopted, yet people think of Rottweiler as an aggressive breed. What’s wrong with pit owners that they can’t handle these dogs and have to dump them? Either it’s the dog or the owner or some combo of the two. So what is it? [/quote]

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