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Anonymous wrote:Why would cutting off one’s own d*ck render you such an huge advantage in college admissions? I understand it if there is no disadvantage if you’re not a psycho. But a huge boost like what we’re seeing now is crazy. This country is totally fugged up.

It is more competitive to get into a college as a woman than a man. A majority of colleges have affirmative action for male applicants to improve the gender ratio.


Maybe at other colleges but there is no "man advantage" at UVA.

16% more applications from women and only 1% higher acceptance rate for women than men. Women are, on average, better students academically. That is definitely affirmative action for men.
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Anonymous wrote:Gossip from DD, lots of girls getting in ED engineering, but a bloodbath for the guys.


So many more bots in engineering.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


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Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.

Their spelling was fine. This insistence on pretending others can’t read comprehensible writing is getting out of hand.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.

Thank you for sharing your "persoective"

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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.

Their spelling was fine. This insistence on pretending others can’t read comprehensible writing is getting out of hand.

Pretending is not something that is necessary in this particular case.
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Anonymous wrote:Yay.

DS just got her acceptance!! Unweighted GPA 3.64. Weighted GPA 4.15. SAT 1280 (only took once, submitted scores). Never had any doubts.


Athlete?


Those are such low stats for a top school? Did she apply TO? The UW is low too.


Y'all acting like UVA is Harvard or something.

It's a state school that accepts a wide range of kids.


Exactly. Stop pretending your school that gives guaranteed admission to 3.4 GPA community college students is somehow as good as top private universities/colleges. It isn't and never will be.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.

Their spelling was fine. This insistence on pretending others can’t read comprehensible writing is getting out of hand.

Pretending is not something that is necessary in this particular case.

Then I’d recommend enrolling in an elementary school.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.


I’m not the pp…but really? A typo is a typo big deal. And Harvard has lost a bit of its luster. Many great choices besides Ivies these days.
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Anonymous wrote:Yay.

DS just got her acceptance!! Unweighted GPA 3.64. Weighted GPA 4.15. SAT 1280 (only took once, submitted scores). Never had any doubts.


Athlete?


Those are such low stats for a top school? Did she apply TO? The UW is low too.


Y'all acting like UVA is Harvard or something.

It's a state school that accepts a wide range of kids.


Exactly. Stop pretending your school that gives guaranteed admission to 3.4 GPA community college students is somehow as good as top private universities/colleges. It isn't and never will be.


It sounds like you know nothing about UVA. Your ignorance is on full display.

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Anonymous wrote:Yay.

DS just got her acceptance!! Unweighted GPA 3.64. Weighted GPA 4.15. SAT 1280 (only took once, submitted scores). Never had any doubts.


Athlete?


Those are such low stats for a top school? Did she apply TO? The UW is low too.


Y'all acting like UVA is Harvard or something.

It's a state school that accepts a wide range of kids.


Exactly. Stop pretending your school that gives guaranteed admission to 3.4 GPA community college students is somehow as good as top private universities/colleges. It isn't and never will be.


It sounds like you know nothing about UVA. Your ignorance is on full display.


Right back at you!

https://admission.virginia.edu/sites/admission/files/2020-09/VCCS%20UVA%20Transfer%20Agreement%20Enginering.pdf
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.


You're a petty child
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Anonymous wrote:Why would cutting off one’s own d*ck render you such an huge advantage in college admissions? I understand it if there is no disadvantage if you’re not a psycho. But a huge boost like what we’re seeing now is crazy. This country is totally fugged up.

It is more competitive to get into a college as a woman than a man. A majority of colleges have affirmative action for male applicants to improve the gender ratio.


Maybe at other colleges but there is no "man advantage" at UVA.

16% more applications from women and only 1% higher acceptance rate for women than men. Women are, on average, better students academically. That is definitely affirmative action for men.



False. https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/probing-uvas-gender-gap-is-it-an-admissions-problem/
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.


You're a petty child

You people are so boring. UVa really is where you belong.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.


Right...
Maybe you should re-read your daughter's syllAbi (not "syllibi") and hone your reading comprehension + second grade spelling skills.


You're a petty child

You people are so boring. UVa really is where you belong.


It’s Friday night. The troll are out.
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Anonymous wrote:3.9, 1600, national level ECs at a rigorous private school… rejected. We are furious!


Sure

...Sure? Who are you and why would you waste people's time with a comment like this. I am really disappointed that people here keep trying to push their agendas about everything on others. Me and DH met at UVA and our son desperately wanted to carry that on. It is unfair to treat that pain with scorn, because you have some skepticism for whatever reasons. This place is becoming rancid.


The PP said "sure" because she didn't believe it, and I don't either.

On the bright side, your DS is quite likely to find a satisfactory spouse at some other school.

You are disgusting. I really hate when people like you talk from your high chambers about who is and is not allowed to speak. UVA rejected multiple people at DC's school, he just had the highest stats, but now we are trying for the ivies and other top schools.


Sure. You're allowed to speak. And we're allowed to speak, too. We're allowed to express skepticism about a questionable claim.


Questionable is one way to put it. No way in the WORLD any sane person would expect anyone to believe that worthless made up blather. Did your son communicate his desire to commit arson in his personal statement? If not, I am not even considering the possibility this made up piece of garbage is real.

UVA is an elite school, up there with Harvard. Why are you surprised it is competitive?


UVa doesn't hold a lump of coal to Harvard in any regard. Keep your wild ideations to yourself.



I beg to to differ and I have persoective on both. I went to both Harvard undergrad and its Law School when there was much less political nonsense. Those years, especially law school, were the highlight of my life. I made friends who have stayed with me my entire life. But like many who attended Harvard, I felt the undergrad experience wanting.

My DD went to UVA in the same major as I so was able to compare syllibi and course of instruction. DD's undergrad education and experience at UVA was superlative to mine at Harvard. She is now at Oxford doing grad work in the same field - again mind blowing. She's now looking at law schools and prefers UVA Law, which is now ranked no 4, as is Harvard.

Times change. UVA undergrad is now 24 in the nation and no 4 for all publics in the nation. Harvard has its troubles right now.

Thank you for sharing your "persoective"



When you can provide such perspective, you can comments on typos. Some of us can actually tell when a finger has slipped between the small letters on a phone. Shall we try for substantive remarks? Or would you like to remain infantile?
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