Sport Fair Meet Mobile?

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Anonymous wrote:they're now on swimcloud. everyone breathe


Just saw the results pop up on SwimCloud… the meet name is correct but does the “Fairland Aquatics Swim Team” logo appear next to the meet name for anyone else’s swimmer? 😂
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🙄 Yup they were hanging on your every post crazy lady.

I got my fix! Until the next meet when we are waiting for the host to post!
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Anonymous wrote:they're now on swimcloud. everyone breathe


Just saw the results pop up on SwimCloud… the meet name is correct but does the “Fairland Aquatics Swim Team” logo appear next to the meet name for anyone else’s swimmer? 😂


Yes
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One of the times for my son is wrong. He’s listed in the relay he did not swim. He swam in the A relay and his name is listed on the B relay. I have a video showing him in the A relay and lane. How do I get this fixed?
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Anonymous wrote:One of the times for my son is wrong. He’s listed in the relay he did not swim. He swam in the A relay and his name is listed on the B relay. I have a video showing him in the A relay and lane. How do I get this fixed?


If he was the lead swimmer, contact your coach asap. If he wasn't, then it really doesn't matter
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Anonymous wrote:One of the times for my son is wrong. He’s listed in the relay he did not swim. He swam in the A relay and his name is listed on the B relay. I have a video showing him in the A relay and lane. How do I get this fixed?


Contact your coach. The coaches are supposed to turn in relay cards with changes and the table makes the changes. The coach can get it fixed.
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Anonymous wrote:PM is too busy counting all the money they made off this meet. I mean I get it’s a lot of work but damn they nickel and dimed everything.


Renting the pool alone is 25,000 dollars. No one is getting rich off this meet.


Actually I think theft clubs that host these meets make a lot of money- the splash and facilities fees cover the rentals. My swimmer has Graduated but when we went to winter classic we didn’t pay a spectator fee, but we had to pay a meet program.


You can pull up the financials and you will see that Bill and Barry are doing VERY well. They love their jobs, but they are also raking it by hosting all the meets they do (invitationals and IMX, etc). They also make more money internally with team training trips. They sell a lot of merch to families, etc. Hopefully they share some of that balance statement by paying their coaches well, that I do not know.


Oh my lord. Find me this information please, cause you are sorely wrong.


PP- I am an accountant, and I served on a board of my swimmer's club team (not the marlin's). if run properly, invitational meets are money makers for the clubs. The officials/timers are volunteers (unlike other club sports). They only provide meals to volunteers. Each participant is paying between $80 and $100 (entries and relays to participate), the timeline showed 455 swimmers this weekend. They make a killing off of pre order merch and any concessions. The club should be clearing at least 15 to 20K for hosting a weekend meet, maybe even more.


15-20k is not a killing for a 3 day youth sporting event. $300-400k for a 3 day soccer tournament where each team pays a $800-900 entry fee and all officials are actually paid, is a killing. Even more lucrative are girl’s volleyball tournaments where they can all play in one big facility and the players are often required to be linesmen for other games. Swim meets are not nearly as profitable as other tournaments because of the logistics. Our LSC actually lots a little money on a few age group champs after providing live streaming, facility rental, parking attendants, travel and lodging for out of town officials, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:One of the times for my son is wrong. He’s listed in the relay he did not swim. He swam in the A relay and his name is listed on the B relay. I have a video showing him in the A relay and lane. How do I get this fixed?


You don't. Relays really dont matter.
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Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.
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Anonymous wrote:Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.

I assume you’re joking at this point? This isn’t reasonable. It can take weeks for meets to get through SWIMS and is beyond the PM’s control after they submit it. And why does it matter? If your swimmer would be highly ranked, you can figure out their ranking anyway. It feels like you’re either being intentionally provocative on DCUM or just going after the Marlins for the sake of it at this point.
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Anonymous wrote:Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.

I assume you’re joking at this point? This isn’t reasonable. It can take weeks for meets to get through SWIMS and is beyond the PM’s control after they submit it. And why does it matter? If your swimmer would be highly ranked, you can figure out their ranking anyway. It feels like you’re either being intentionally provocative on DCUM or just going after the Marlins for the sake of it at this point.


I just checked SWIMS and it doesn’t look like results are loaded from Turkey Claus either. So it’s not just this meet.
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Anonymous wrote:Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.


Being polite doesn't make you sound any less insane. The Marlins submitted the meet files to PVS, the LSC. The times are both in your swimmers record with their team, on the PVS website, and in meet mobile. The only person who can submit times to SWIMS is the LSC times officer. Incidentally the current PVS times officer happens to be the meet director for the NCAP invitational that's going on right now- she's a little busy. I can't imagine a legitimate reason for why you need these results in SWIMS so quickly- if you have one- you could try emailing the times officer- her contact information is on the PVS website- plus that will help spread the identity of the crazy parent around PVS a little more.

The only person on this 11 page thread with a legitimate complaint is the parent who says their kid swam in the A relay and is listed in the B relay. Again- the fix for that is to contact your coach, not complain on DCUM. I can come up with 3 reasons the relay error may have occurred, listed in the most likely to least likely. 1) the coach rearranged the relays, put your kid in the A relay and failed to inform the table. 2) the table received the change in the relay but failed to make the change in the database. 3)the kids reseeded themselves, and nobody noticed. Either way, most people who administer swim stuff care a lot about accuracy and will want to get that fixed. But no matter why the error happened, the request for the fix will need to originate with the coach.
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Anonymous wrote:Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.

I assume you’re joking at this point? This isn’t reasonable. It can take weeks for meets to get through SWIMS and is beyond the PM’s control after they submit it. And why does it matter? If your swimmer would be highly ranked, you can figure out their ranking anyway. It feels like you’re either being intentionally provocative on DCUM or just going after the Marlins for the sake of it at this point.


I’m not criticizing the Marlins; my goal is simply to gain clarity on processing times. I must say, however, that I find your tone inappropriate. It’s crucial that we approach these conversations with dignity and respect for all participants. I hold the Marlins in high regard and thoroughly enjoyed the swim meet. My intention was purely to request an update. Framing my reasonable inquiry as criticism feels unwarrantedly confrontational.
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Being polite doesn't make you sound any less insane. The Marlins submitted the meet files to PVS, the LSC. The times are both in your swimmers record with their team, on the PVS website, and in meet mobile. The only person who can submit times to SWIMS is the LSC times officer. Incidentally the current PVS times officer happens to be the meet director for the NCAP invitational that's going on right now- she's a little busy. I can't imagine a legitimate reason for why you need these results in SWIMS so quickly- if you have one- you could try emailing the times officer- her contact information is on the PVS website- plus that will help spread the identity of the crazy parent around PVS a little more.

Thank you for your response. However, as someone relatively new to all of this, I find it a bit confusing to understand who is responsible for what. I was particularly surprised to learn that the LSC Chief Timing Officer is the only role authorized to upload data into SWIMS 3.0. That seems quite restrictive, though I imagine there’s substantial reconciliation taking place before the data is approved for the system.

I want to clarify that my inquiry was not meant to come across as unreasonable. While I don’t believe your remarks about "insanity" were warranted, I will take the high road and apologize if my tone came off as offensive. That was certainly not my intent. Thank you again for your time and explanation..
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Anonymous wrote:Hello Potomac Marlins,
I wanted to inquire if the times from the recent meeting have been uploaded to the SWIMS 3.0 database on USA Swimming. We're eager to review the official times and ensure they are recorded in the national system. Could you please confirm if this has been done, or provide an update on when we might expect to see them? Thank you for your assistance.


Who is “we”? If you are a coach or are on staff with your team, contact the host meet director/ao. If “we” means you are a swim parent, just be patient and you can check with your lsc in a few weeks if you are still concerned.

And if you are not a coach, it’s not usual or appreciated for parents to chase down times like this because usually there is no need! The meet results will eventually be uploaded, and your coaches will make sure any last chance qualifying times go wherever they need to go.
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