DDOT wants to charge $8/hr for street parking, require payment 24 hours/day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You car brainers need to just breathe and relax. And please, spend some time thinking about people who aren't you. Like the older residents of DC who have to circle the block ten times to find a spot because the bridge and tunnel people are clogging up our streets. Or the elderly person who can't get a plumber into their house because he can't find a spot.

This is what DDOT is trying to fix. Not make it easier for your happy hour. Stay in Virginia, please!

How does this fix the problem? It makes it worse.

Now plumber has to pay this fee too, which he will pass on to the customers. And people will start avoiding these metered spots even more if you make them unaffordable which will make competition for non-metered parking spots a lot worse. Now you have screwed up elderly residents in more ways than one. Brilliant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?

Sure, it's called having a designated driver, and not everyone is coming to drink. sometimes people come to visit friends/family or shop, pickup food, etc. We have elderly family in DC and have to park near their building. We also come with friends and one of us doesn't drink, we carpool together. DC also relies on people from the entire metro to support its businesses. If DC government think they can make parking as expensive as Manhattan, they are high on something.

All those people carpooling somewhere to spend money (except not on parking, that's unaffordable).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?

Sure, it's called having a designated driver, and not everyone is coming to drink. sometimes people come to visit friends/family or shop, pickup food, etc. We have elderly family in DC and have to park near their building. We also come with friends and one of us doesn't drink, we carpool together. DC also relies on people from the entire metro to support its businesses. If DC government think they can make parking as expensive as Manhattan, they are high on something.

All those people carpooling somewhere to spend money (except not on parking, that's unaffordable).

Do you not understand how making metered and garage parking more expensive will reduce available non-metered spots too? People will avoid metered spots even more leading to shortage of non metered spots. Or are you suggesting that all streets in DC are converted to paid parking at this rate? Then you can expect DC residents themselves to be pissed when their prices for services rise (because of commuter workers) and their relatives and friends no longer want to visit. It's like placing a toll on entering DC area except DC area isn't NYC or Rome or some mobbed European town with tiny streets inundated by tourists with no place to walk. If anything DC can use more people

[Anonymous]

I'm curious, how much is the pay for being a shill? Do you get vacation & medical also?
I assume you can work from home.
Is there a commission for each post you write? The writing style on the post about zoning seems like this is one of the same people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?

Sure, it's called having a designated driver, and not everyone is coming to drink. sometimes people come to visit friends/family or shop, pickup food, etc. We have elderly family in DC and have to park near their building. We also come with friends and one of us doesn't drink, we carpool together. DC also relies on people from the entire metro to support its businesses. If DC government think they can make parking as expensive as Manhattan, they are high on something.

All those people carpooling somewhere to spend money (except not on parking, that's unaffordable).

Do you not understand how making metered and garage parking more expensive will reduce available non-metered spots too? People will avoid metered spots even more leading to shortage of non metered spots. Or are you suggesting that all streets in DC are converted to paid parking at this rate? Then you can expect DC residents themselves to be pissed when their prices for services rise (because of commuter workers) and their relatives and friends no longer want to visit. It's like placing a toll on entering DC area except DC area isn't NYC or Rome or some mobbed European town with tiny streets inundated by tourists with no place to walk. If anything DC can use more people

If current DC truly residents can’t pay these new parking rates, then just let them move to Maryland.

Problem solved!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You car brainers need to just breathe and relax. And please, spend some time thinking about people who aren't you. Like the older residents of DC who have to circle the block ten times to find a spot because the bridge and tunnel people are clogging up our streets. Or the elderly person who can't get a plumber into their house because he can't find a spot.

This is what DDOT is trying to fix. Not make it easier for your happy hour. Stay in Virginia, please!

DDOT is trying to make it safe for senior citizens to go to the club on Saturday night?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.

This proposal will reduce the number of people who go to U Street, which seems like a strange goal to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.

This proposal will reduce the number of people who go to U Street, which seems like a strange goal to have.

The opposite will probably happen after a short period of reorientation. Right now parking is cheap so people park second cars on the street, sit in a spot all day long and such. This will free up spaces for turnover, so people driving in will actually have spots available. If the price is too high to keep them ~80% full, then they can lower the price or just wait for inflation to do it for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the storefronts in this city are empty, at a time when the economy is friggin' booming. Obviously the DC government's policies are not working. Maybe we should try something different.

This proposal will reduce the number of people who go to U Street, which seems like a strange goal to have.

The opposite will probably happen after a short period of reorientation. Right now parking is cheap so people park second cars on the street, sit in a spot all day long and such. This will free up spaces for turnover, so people driving in will actually have spots available. If the price is too high to keep them ~80% full, then they can lower the price or just wait for inflation to do it for them.

A lot of wishful thinking here. Also, I know everyone here is completely illiterate when it comes to basic economics but the inflation rate is extremely low (2.6 percent) and the Fed is determined to drive it even lower. You will be waiting many, many years before $8 an hour seems reasonable to people.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of DDOT wrecking entertainment districts, biz leaders in Adams Morgan say all the whackadoodle stuff DDOT has done there has made it less safe. Shawn Fenty (noted cyclist, and brother of former mayor) says he refuses to use the bike lanes because they're unsafe.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/people-in-adams-morgan-call-out-new-hazards-ddots-new-bike-lane-project/65-4986df04-6bbb-4376-9699-dfd80b9b804c

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1) It's a relatively tiny area of NW.
2) The $8/hour is only from 6pm-3am (ie, nightlife time)
3) The purpose is to encourage street parking spots to turn over frequently, which I am all for.

Street parking should be expensive and, in high demand zones, it should primarily serve people who want to park for an hour or less. If you're coming for a night out? Find a garage.

So we're going to require people who are getting completely hammered in bars to move their car frequently because they will be worried about the meter, and then they will have to drive around for 45 minutes (while inebriated) looking for a new parking spot. What could possibly go wrong?

Um.. or perhaps maybe, just hear me out now, just maybe, those people "getting hammered" at bars could choose to arrive at their location in a way that's (hopefully) similar to their departure plan - by not driving themselves there?

Sure, it's called having a designated driver, and not everyone is coming to drink. sometimes people come to visit friends/family or shop, pickup food, etc. We have elderly family in DC and have to park near their building. We also come with friends and one of us doesn't drink, we carpool together. DC also relies on people from the entire metro to support its businesses. If DC government think they can make parking as expensive as Manhattan, they are high on something.

All those people carpooling somewhere to spend money (except not on parking, that's unaffordable).

Do you not understand how making metered and garage parking more expensive will reduce available non-metered spots too? People will avoid metered spots even more leading to shortage of non metered spots. Or are you suggesting that all streets in DC are converted to paid parking at this rate? Then you can expect DC residents themselves to be pissed when their prices for services rise (because of commuter workers) and their relatives and friends no longer want to visit. It's like placing a toll on entering DC area except DC area isn't NYC or Rome or some mobbed European town with tiny streets inundated by tourists with no place to walk. If anything DC can use more people

If current DC truly residents can’t pay these new parking rates, then just let them move to Maryland.

Problem solved!

Encouraging more DC residents to leave DC and discouraging non-DC residents to venture into the city for entertainment does not seem like a sound economic development strategy. But what do I know? I’m not an expert at DDOT or an internet radical urbanist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of DDOT wrecking entertainment districts, biz leaders in Adams Morgan say all the whackadoodle stuff DDOT has done there has made it less safe. Shawn Fenty (noted cyclist, and brother of former mayor) says he refuses to use the bike lanes because they're unsafe.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/people-in-adams-morgan-call-out-new-hazards-ddots-new-bike-lane-project/65-4986df04-6bbb-4376-9699-dfd80b9b804c

More like Shawn Fenty, noted opposer of bike lanes.

It's odd how WUSA talked to business owners but, although they were right there on the spot, didn't talk to any bike lane users.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of DDOT wrecking entertainment districts, biz leaders in Adams Morgan say all the whackadoodle stuff DDOT has done there has made it less safe. Shawn Fenty (noted cyclist, and brother of former mayor) says he refuses to use the bike lanes because they're unsafe.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/people-in-adams-morgan-call-out-new-hazards-ddots-new-bike-lane-project/65-4986df04-6bbb-4376-9699-dfd80b9b804c

More like Shawn Fenty, noted opposer of bike lanes.

It's odd how WUSA talked to business owners but, although they were right there on the spot, didn't talk to any bike lane users.

And hilariously enough, it seems like the problems were caused by drivers parking not the bike lanes. The language is very vague but it sounds like drivers are parking in travel lanes and causing back ups.

"They’ve completely obstructed the whole lane and so, traffic is sort of weaving in and out if there’s a delivery vehicle on this side and on the other then they have to go into oncoming traffic on both sides of the street,” Fenty said."

So what makes the bike lane unsafe for cyclists? Parked cars seem to be a problem for drivers in a hurry, but what actually makes the bike lane unsafe? What other than spite is keeping Fenty from using it?

Its the same chicken little hysterics that bubble up any time any change is proposed to make the city a tiny bit better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You car brainers need to just breathe and relax. And please, spend some time thinking about people who aren't you. Like the older residents of DC who have to circle the block ten times to find a spot because the bridge and tunnel people are clogging up our streets. Or the elderly person who can't get a plumber into their house because he can't find a spot.

This is what DDOT is trying to fix. Not make it easier for your happy hour. Stay in Virginia, please!

How does this fix the problem? It makes it worse.

Now plumber has to pay this fee too, which he will pass on to the customers. And people will start avoiding these metered spots even more if you make them unaffordable which will make competition for non-metered parking spots a lot worse. Now you have screwed up elderly residents in more ways than one. Brilliant.

Residence of parking passes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious, how much is the pay for being a shill? Do you get vacation & medical also?
I assume you can work from home.
Is there a commission for each post you write? The writing style on the post about zoning seems like this is one of the same people.

It’s the same person. I doubt they are paid. I assume they are unemployed. It’s also unlikely that they even live in the area.