What votes can I make in Nov against the upzone-ing in MoCo??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

You shouldn't, because YOU CAN'T. It's not under your control if other people decide to do things that are bananas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

You shouldn't, because YOU CAN'T. It's not under your control if other people decide to do things that are bananas.

Ever heard of risk management? That's pretty regularly employed in this day and age.

And it's not bananas as in completely unpredictable. Which then allows for employment of more direct risk management principles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

You shouldn't, because YOU CAN'T. It's not under your control if other people decide to do things that are bananas.

Ever heard of risk management? That's pretty regularly employed in this day and age.

And it's not bananas as in completely unpredictable. Which then allows for employment of more direct risk management principles.

Nah, it's bananas. I think county housing policy should be based on something more solid than But What If Somebody Decides To Do Something Bananas? That Would Be Bad!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

You shouldn't, because YOU CAN'T. It's not under your control if other people decide to do things that are bananas.

Ever heard of risk management? That's pretty regularly employed in this day and age.

And it's not bananas as in completely unpredictable. Which then allows for employment of more direct risk management principles.

Nah, it's bananas. I think county housing policy should be based on something more solid than But What If Somebody Decides To Do Something Bananas? That Would Be Bad!

Your choice (and maybe Alsobrooks' funeral) to consider it so bananas as to be unpredictable across the margins of a large population and unmanageable, politically.

I, too, believe that housing policy should be based on more. Failing to recognize the overall picture and employ a modicum of political calculus, however? That's bananas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So on the school board is up for a vote and concerned / not concerned about the increasing density?

This is an excellent question. Three of the seven Board of Education positions are up for a vote this year. Choices are between

Diaz and Zimmerman
Harris and Montoya
Stewart and Evans

MoCo voters may vote in any of these two-person races (districts for the MoCo BOE only set requirements for district residency of the candidates, not of the voters).

It does not appear that any have made public, yet, a position on the AHS. It is unfortunate that the question of whether they would support increased densities without ensurance of adequate school facilities (and operational funding) hasn't been put to the candidates in any of the forums thus far (at least from my understanding, having seen some and read reports about others).

There's public record of some leanings: actions as current board members, past advocacy activity, and, less directly, stances on more general funding for education and the use of those funds. However, it is difficult to divine just from those whether any would lead to a prospective BOE member's pushing back against the AHS in interactions with the County Council (limited as they are, though considerably more than most of the citizenry experiences).

This and the term limit for County Executive appear to be the only things that might address the OP's question, though each is about as close to grasping at straws as one might get, with more direct voter input on the AHS not on the ballot.

Unfortunately, the planning board and the Council have staged the AHS in a way that prevents the public from having a say, other than in some performative listening sessions with their handful of YImBY plants. Since the people won’t be able to vote on it directly and they don’t have the ability to voice their objections via a direct vote for or against council members, they have to seek any other outlets they can find. This might push some folks to vote for Hogan that might otherwise have considered Alsobrooks.

As the PP said, this is grasping at straws. Voting for Hogan, WHO IS A DEVELOPER, for US Senate, to send a message to the County Council that they shouldn't change the zoning? That's as coherent and effective as ordering pizza to send a message to the Board of Education that Julius Caesar is a better play than Romeo and Juliet. If MoCo Voter does something ridiculous, here's who's responsible: MoCo Voter. Not the County Council.

Beside the point, in a way. Just because there are people who would vote in an incoherent manner doesn't mean those votes wouldn't count. The Alsobrooks campaign and the DNC should be hitting the MoCo Council to limit possible damage, given how tight things are.

Nobody has said that incoherent votes won't count. Of course they will count. The point is that you shouldn't, in fact you can't, base your actions on the possibility that somebody somewhere will vote incoherently.

If you are in politics, and if things are close, you should.

You shouldn't, because YOU CAN'T. It's not under your control if other people decide to do things that are bananas.

Ever heard of risk management? That's pretty regularly employed in this day and age.

And it's not bananas as in completely unpredictable. Which then allows for employment of more direct risk management principles.

Nah, it's bananas. I think county housing policy should be based on something more solid than But What If Somebody Decides To Do Something Bananas? That Would Be Bad!

Your choice (and maybe Alsobrooks' funeral) to consider it so bananas as to be unpredictable across the margins of a large population and unmanageable, politically.

I, too, believe that housing policy should be based on more. Failing to recognize the overall picture and employ a modicum of political calculus, however? That's bananas.

I would expect Alsobrooks's campaign strategies to be based on something more solid than the speculations of some random anonymous poster on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Do NOT vote for Laura Stewart for BOE.

She’s pro YIMBY. She’s pro moving your kids school boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do NOT vote for Laura Stewart for BOE.

She’s pro YIMBY. She’s pro moving your kids school boundaries.

I voted for Laura Stewart for BoE. My kids' school boundaries already got moved, as they should have been. It was not a disaster. It was actually a good thing, for everyone, including us.