What votes can I make in Nov against the upzone-ing in MoCo??
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Anonymous
Voting for Larry Hogan will accomplish literally nothing about the zoning proposal. It won't even send a "protest" message. Meanwhile, voting for Larry Hogan risks putting MAGA in power, which actually would impact your day to day life a lot more than the zoning proposal. |
Anonymous
Local politics often impact your life much more than what happens in Congress. |
Anonymous
Zero people in county government are on the ballot. On the MCPS forum, there are always posts about people who supposedly value education (the DCUM demographics) and people who supposedly don't value education (the non-DCUM demographics), but for people who supposedly value education, there is a whole lot of ignorance about the basics of local and state government. Whatever education the DCUM demographics supposedly value, it obviously isn't education in civics. |
Anonymous
This is often true, which makes you wonder why people pay so little attention to local politics until omg apartments on my street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But with MAGA in power, that won't be true. |
Anonymous
I know what will impact my life a lot more and I promise you, Larry Hogan or not, I will be more unhappy if my neighborhood starts to look like unkept. I actually prefer Kamala for President and a divided house/senate. I don't want all Ds, checks and balances are healthy. |
Anonymous
You're not voting for Hogan as a "protest" vote against local zoning changes, you're voting for Hogan because you want to vote for Hogan. |
Anonymous
The County Council could take that medicine, realize that their push for density, with all of the concerns about process and effect unmet, might cause some to make such a rash protest vote in a tight race, and definitively and publicly dial things back by committing themselves to a plebecite on the zoning matter at the following election, to reducing the scope/extent of any measure, to limiting the impact of the measure in any one neighborhood and to tying any zoning allowances to true ensurance of adequate public facilities. Harris' trumpeting of housing issues also might be conflated with initiatives such as MoCo's AHS, and that, too, could send some Hogan's way (if not Trump's). Democrats are playing with fire, here. |
Anonymous
I am I've voted D my whole life but I am getting sick of some of their agenda. It's all robbing Peter to pay for Paul. There is way too much hate towards successful individuals and complaining about what we have. Leave me alone, I am not the problem. The Elon Musks of the world are the problem. |
Anonymous
Oh my goodness. No, if the PP votes for Hogan in a preposterous vote that is intended as a protest against zoning changes, it's not the County Council's fault for not holding a referendum on zoning changes. |
Anonymous
Then your vote is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. |
Anonymous
But, as noted, Elrich is effecrively on the ballot as they are seeking to exclude him from a third term. During his time as County Executive, his stance vis-a-vis development seems to have been to object to measures giving developers unnecessary benefit without equivalent (or more) benefit accruing to the populace of the county. His vetoes on those items often have been countered by Council overrides, with all or nearly all Councilmembers then allowing the effective/relative private benefit at public expense. They, who have a three-term limit just as he does already, want him out just as much as the Republicans, with several of them hoping to succeed him sooner rather than later. If it weren't for a modicum of party decorum, there would be much greater public avowal of that. Honestly, with the preponderance of the voting public not always well informed, especially about local issues, his narrow victories have more to do with the weight of Council action (and inaction, in some cases) that ends up incorrectly attributed to him as the most visible local politician in office than anything positive about his opposition. As others have noted, here, voting NO on the term limit question would be a counter of sorts to the densification push. It would be a minimal one, with no Councilmembers up for reelection and with the avenue that the Council plans to utilize, a Zoning Text Amendment (not envisioned to allow such sweeping change, but not forbidding it), not subject to County Executive veto. However, it could send a signal. |
Anonymous
Please explain how this signal-sending would work. All the steps between someone voting for Hogan as a "protest", and the County Council rejecting the proposed zoning changes. |
Anonymous
Nope. Elrich is not on the ballot. Term limits are on the ballot. I am not a supporter of Elrich, but I am voting against the term limit ballot measure. The Republicans put the term limit ballot measure on the ballot because they keep losing elections because the voters of Montgomery County don't want what they're selling. |
Anonymous
Their fault, as politicians, would be in being so foused on delivering an unpopular and divisive policy change that they would risk the votes of the many who would not differentiate well enough, entering the protest vote described in great enough numbers to endanger their statewide candidate in a tight race amid the backdrop of party control of the Senate. Solid blue Maryland (as a whole -- lots of Red outside of the population centers) should be a slam dunk for Democrats, but they won't even learn from Hogan's having been twice elected as governor. Again, they play with fire, whether they consider it their "fault" or not. |
Anonymous
On the one hand, you don't seem to know what "effectively" means (you should see that despite the typo in the PP). On the other, you don't really have an idea of the internecine conflict among MoCo Democrats. |