If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?

Democrats shut down the government rather than protect our country with border barriers.

He did a good job last time with safe third country agreements, Migrant Protection Protocol and expulsion orders. All he needs to do is reinstate those policies and cancel Biden’s CBP One app and disastrous CHNV parole program and we will be in a lot better shape as a country.

The last shutdown began in 2018 with Trump in the White House and Republicans controlling both the House and the Senate. Trump himself took credit for the shutdown: "I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down." That is not Democrats shutting down the government.

Because Democrats refused to fund the wall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.

And the Senate’s weak border bill was also a messaging bill that was not intended to pass. It was all of Biden and Democrats policies. It did not secure the border, but it was intended to fool voters into thinking Democrats were doing something to secure the border. It was to deflect blame for the border crisis onto Trump and Republicans. Its authors knew it would never pass the House.

Its principal author was conservative Republican Sen. James Lankford. Why would he want to do that?

No, the principal author was the Biden admin, Chris Murphy, and Kirsten Sinema, all Democrats. James Lankford got anything for Republicans in the bill. The bill was so bad it had no chance of passing the House. He spoke on the Senate floor about all the good policies Democrats rejected

https://youtu.be/0Lpq_SbvCgo?si=clDENHJWsb2NW5rw

McConnell was hoping he could hoodwink Republicans to pass it, and wanted to give cover for Biden on immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Sweden is also discovering the many benefits from overwhelming immigration.

they are RACIST!

Stockholm has made no secret of overhauling its immigration policy, saying it wants to combat fraud and what it calls a “shadow society” of migrants that don’t have a legal right to stay in the country.

By doing so, it hopes to solve what it describes as the “associated problems” of a rise in undocumented migrants, with a spate of gang violence and organized crime plaguing low-income, immigrant communities in Sweden in recent years.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/07/swedens-immigration-stance-has-changed-radically-over-the-last-decade.html

Interesting that CNBC is actually reporting on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear Harris and Walz make strong comments against immigrants who are here illegally and their plans for deporting them.

That will never happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

DING

Notice all the hand-wringing about "immigrants are flooding our schools and making our kids dumb" bullshit never gets into detail. It's all noise with no evidence.

There are teachers on this board who have discussed this before.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation. [/quote]

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students. [/quote]

Lol just like I Said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?

Trump doesn't go nearly far enough. The borders should be 100% closed to immigration for a decade or so, and many deportations need to happen during that time.
After a decade, then start merit based immigration only. That is the only fair and equitable immigration, when it is based on intellectual or job-related ability only. No "refugee" junk.

I 100000% agree with you. The deversity visa too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear Harris and Walz make strong comments against immigrants who are here illegally and their plans for deporting them.

That will never happen.

+1
And that's pretty much why I can't vote for them. My number one issue is the border.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

DING

Notice all the hand-wringing about "immigrants are flooding our schools and making our kids dumb" bullshit never gets into detail. It's all noise with no evidence.

There are teachers on this board who have discussed this before.

+1
And there have been umpteen descriptions of schools which are overwhelmed by non-English speaking immigrants. Not only posts from people on DCUM who are experiencing it, but also articles and citations of people across the country. And all of those accounts are completely ignored and/or dismissed by people like the PP. It's so predictable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 immigration/borders was the mainstay of his platform. He promised to build a wall and that Mexico was going to pay for it. We all know that didn't happen. Again, in 2024, this is the mainstay of his platform. What do you think he is going to do differently this time?

Democrats shut down the government rather than protect our country with border barriers.

He did a good job last time with safe third country agreements, Migrant Protection Protocol and expulsion orders. All he needs to do is reinstate those policies and cancel Biden’s CBP One app and disastrous CHNV parole program and we will be in a lot better shape as a country.

The last shutdown began in 2018 with Trump in the White House and Republicans controlling both the House and the Senate. Trump himself took credit for the shutdown: "I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down." That is not Democrats shutting down the government.

Because Democrats refused to fund the wall.

With good reason. The wall can be scaled with a $20 ladder or breached with a $100 saw. Building the wall is a waste of resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2

H.R. 2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;

* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats.

Nobody ignored H.R. 2. We know it's there. We also know it's a messaging bill whose authors understood completely that it was dead on arrival in the Senate.

House Democrats passed the For The People Act in 2019 but McConnell didn't bring it up for a vote. They tried again in 2021 and while Schumer did bring it up, it didn't survive the filibuster. The fact that the bill failed to become law came as a surprise to no one - this was a messaging bill too. Both sides pass them to let the people know where they stand. And if enough voters agree with H.R. 2 they'll elect 60 Republican senators and a Republican president. But we're not there yet.

And the Senate’s weak border bill was also a messaging bill that was not intended to pass. It was all of Biden and Democrats policies. It did not secure the border, but it was intended to fool voters into thinking Democrats were doing something to secure the border. It was to deflect blame for the border crisis onto Trump and Republicans. Its authors knew it would never pass the House.

Its principal author was conservative Republican Sen. James Lankford. Why would he want to do that?

No, the principal author was the Biden admin, Chris Murphy, and Kirsten Sinema, all Democrats. James Lankford got anything for Republicans in the bill. The bill was so bad it had no chance of passing the House. He spoke on the Senate floor about all the good policies Democrats rejected

https://youtu.be/0Lpq_SbvCgo?si=clDENHJWsb2NW5rw

He's describing the process of negotiation between the two sides, something that's necessary for any bill to become a law under divided government. The House bill was crafted without bipartisan negotiation, which is why it never had a chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students.

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I’m still appalled that teachers are supposed to deal with this. I subbed a few times in a school like this and was completely overwhelmed. No one was learning anything at all. It is so incredibly unfair to both teachers and students.

The problem is this area. When you grow up along the border it is a much more seamless process. I had numerous classmates who only spoke Spanish at home. It didn’t slow things down because teachers were far better at managing the situation and many spoke Spanish or some Spanish. The rest of America just needs to catch up. Being monolingual as a teacher makes things much harder. Schools will catch up.

America doesn’t need to catch up. We speak English here.

[Anonymous]

You see how far right white supremacists have risen to power in Germany?

That’s the backlash to the unchecked influx of migrants that Merkel allowed.

We’ll see the same in America as long as Democrats’ ass-backwards “progressive” immigration policies continue.

The irony is that we need a hard stop to Democrats’ bad ideas in order to prevent the complete take over of the fringe far right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students.

+1
I’m still appalled that teachers are supposed to deal with this. I subbed a few times in a school like this and was completely overwhelmed. No one was learning anything at all. It is so incredibly unfair to both teachers and students.

The problem is this area. When you grow up along the border it is a much more seamless process. I had numerous classmates who only spoke Spanish at home. It didn’t slow things down because teachers were far better at managing the situation and many spoke Spanish or some Spanish. The rest of America just needs to catch up. Being monolingual as a teacher makes things much harder. Schools will catch up.

America doesn’t need to catch up. We speak English here.

Right? I actually laughed at the PP’s clueless post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You see how far right white supremacists have risen to power in Germany?

That’s the backlash to the unchecked influx of migrants that Merkel allowed.

We’ll see the same in America as long as Democrats’ ass-backwards “progressive” immigration policies continue.

The irony is that we need a hard stop to Democrats’ bad ideas in order to prevent the complete take over of the fringe far right.

+1
Democrats are so stupid.