Huge ECNL News coming 7/1/2024

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Anonymous wrote:DC United Graduates 2024:

▪️Pendleton - UCLA University

▫️Papez - Princeton University

▪️Zhang - Princeton University

▫️Jones - UVA University

▪️Bisong - UVA University

▫️Ray - The College of Charleston

▪️Snaith - Brown University

▫️Diaz - Longwood University

▪️Aggrey - Canisius University

▫️Melly - Cornell University

▪️Burri - Old Dominion University

Tourettes post? Glad you are a proud parent of a DCU kid, but that has nothing to do with this thread. Congrats to those kids and best of luck.

It was the response to the PP claiming college coaches avoid dmv recruiting

So it seems that makes your toxic post the tourettes post

The 2024 DCU class is the one that took their U16 team to the championship - a really good class overall.

4 of those schools are non-scholarship. (Which calls into question the value of DCU Acadmey for the placement - like Potomac grad Papez)

2 are D1 in name only.

Only Virginia and UCLA are serious soccer schools. Believe it or not, but JMU would be more impressive from a footy perspective that the majority of the schools ok the list.

Kudos though to the kids that are using DCU Academy as an academic vehicle.

Your hate, envy and jealousy is transparent
No matter how you try to spin it

Did you point out how many/percentage are going to Ivy League schools?

??? Hate, envy, jealousy? That’s a lot of assumptions for you and me who probably neither have a dog in that hunt.

If you read my post, I did point out how many are going the Ivy…it was the first comment I made, and the last comment I made.

Nothing I said took away from what those young men earned with their commitment and discipline. The thread on this topic was about the DC metro recruiting. And the idea that it is not an athletically competitive as it once was is true. It’s born out in the statistics nationally, and that is even with an increasing number of schools that have gone to D1 (Longwood moved to D1 in the mid 2000s, JMU in 2021/2022, etc.)

The fact there there are more competitive soccer programs than others in collegiate soccer isn’t a debate. Virginia and UCLA are fantastic soccer placements for DCU. Every academy and program has placement lists with a wide variety of ex-placements ranging from D3 to D1 to even professional teams.

Charging my response as (or even reading mine as) filled with jealousy, envy or hate really exposes you insecurities rather than any animosity on my part. I get that. The DMV requires a total commitment to justify its absurdity - regardless of income. It’s a place where even the POTUS can’t achieve his (or her) goals, everyone here falls short. The solace is we tell ourselves it’s all worth it if…and seeing a DCU kid go to Princeton sounds like just the type of achievement we can lock onto to tell ourselves how we’re doing the right thing for our kids, for our families, etc. And if your son or daughter goes to Princeton, maybe it IS all worth it.

blah blah blah
pseudo sanctimonious joker

Since you know everything the rest of us in the dmv are doing wrong, why don't you tell us which club we should all send our kids and which colleges meet with your approval

Pseudo, hate, envy, jealousy…

My advice, since you asked for it, is you probably shouldn’t send your kids to college. See if you can home school them for their degree.

[Anonymous]

This thread is now three standard deviations away from where it started. We just need people to pile in and throw mud at the different programs and name coaches directly until its locked.

Still hoping this is real. For most Q1 parents it won't be as bad as you think because frankly there are very few Q4 kids left in the older age groups of elite teams and you'll still be Q2/Q3 at the worst.

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This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

I think other parts of the country play through the hs season.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

I think other parts of the country play through the hs season.

This is correct. NJ for example (and other states) actually have state association rules on this that make competitive play limited to the spring so that in the fall athletes have the option to play for their schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

I think other parts of the country play through the hs season.

In California you can't practice or associate with a club team while you're playing HS soccer during the season.

Trapped players and those that didn't make or choose to play HS group together and do all ages practices until the season is over.

Since it doesn't snow out here HS Soccer is a winter sport (late Nov through Feb)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

I think other parts of the country play through the hs season.

In California you can't practice or associate with a club team while you're playing HS soccer during the season.

Trapped players and those that didn't make or choose to play HS group together and do all ages practices until the season is over.

Since it doesn't snow out here HS Soccer is a winter sport (late Nov through Feb)

Isn't nov to feb basically the break for club soccer anyway?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

I think other parts of the country play through the hs season.

In California you can't practice or associate with a club team while you're playing HS soccer during the season.

Trapped players and those that didn't make or choose to play HS group together and do all ages practices until the season is over.

Since it doesn't snow out here HS Soccer is a winter sport (late Nov through Feb)

Isn't nov to feb basically the break for club soccer anyway?

Yea it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

Sounds like ECNL using slight of hand to make gullible parents feel this increases chances for their sons to get into their desired college through soccer

You're going to graduate HS when you're going to graduate, regardless of what you're doing in club soccer.
The colleges want you for your qualities that matches what they need.

How does ecnl changing from calendar year to school year help a kid's recruitment odds over his competition at Bethesda playing in MLS Next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

Sounds like ECNL using slight of hand to make gullible parents feel this increases chances for their sons to get into their desired college through soccer

You're going to graduate HS when you're going to graduate, regardless of what you're doing in club soccer.
The colleges want you for your qualities that matches what they need.

How does ecnl changing from calendar year to school year help a kid's recruitment odds over his competition at Bethesda playing in MLS Next?

Ohhh yes all parents of trapped players must be gullible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

Sounds like ECNL using slight of hand to make gullible parents feel this increases chances for their sons to get into their desired college through soccer

You're going to graduate HS when you're going to graduate, regardless of what you're doing in club soccer.
The colleges want you for your qualities that matches what they need.

How does ecnl changing from calendar year to school year help a kid's recruitment odds over his competition at Bethesda playing in MLS Next?

If ECNL switches their age groups from starting Jan 1 to starting Aug1 (the year prior) it means their equivalent age groups to calendar defined teams will have players potentially 5 months older.

See how it works

Also calender based teams can play in ECNL tournaments but ECNL teams can't play in calendar based tournaments.

See how it works

Also also ECNL clubs can't switch over to GA without switching up their teams but GA clubs can switch over to ECNL without changing anything.

See how it works

It seems like the change is for the kids but it's not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

Sounds like ECNL using slight of hand to make gullible parents feel this increases chances for their sons to get into their desired college through soccer

You're going to graduate HS when you're going to graduate, regardless of what you're doing in club soccer.
The colleges want you for your qualities that matches what they need.

How does ecnl changing from calendar year to school year help a kid's recruitment odds over his competition at Bethesda playing in MLS Next?

Ohhh yes all parents of trapped players must be gullible.

There are only two main times where the kids get trapped:

8th grade and 12th grade.

Most of the kids trapped at 12th grade have already gotten their looks and have enough of a record on film and statistics.

The 8th graders are the ones that sort of miss a year of good challenging development with their grade peers - but not really much in the case of true development because ECNL teams aren’t built for “school friends” anyway - so it’s so sort of 90% a feeling and 10% a truth / fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is hilarious since people actually think that ECNL cares about kids playing in HS

Right, they don't care about HS. It's just a coincidence that they have their seasons scheduled around each state's HS schedule.

Clubs make the schedule with ECNL and have a lot of say since it’s their fields. Our club (Virginia) has no games April and May but other VA clubs go right through. It’s really up to the clubs as to what they want to do…but agree they don’t care really all that much about high school other than the fact that it gives them a differentiating edge with players/parents against prior DA and MLS which made it difficult if not impossible to play HS soccer unless you are on scholarship. Some kids want that experience (not for the soccer but for the social). What ECNL really cares about is college placement record of its players, hence this thread about the move from birth to college calendar year…They are now putting additional rigor/focus on boys track record here (which never really used to be a focus given their origination as a girls league)…for girls they already have the market cornered hwre (pure numbers of college placements via a via other leagues). and they now need to capture the white space on boys side…which is a fractured pipeline coming from multiple leagues sources and countries…

Sounds like ECNL using slight of hand to make gullible parents feel this increases chances for their sons to get into their desired college through soccer

You're going to graduate HS when you're going to graduate, regardless of what you're doing in club soccer.
The colleges want you for your qualities that matches what they need.

How does ecnl changing from calendar year to school year help a kid's recruitment odds over his competition at Bethesda playing in MLS Next?

Ohhh yes all parents of trapped players must be gullible.

There are only two main times where the kids get trapped:

8th grade and 12th grade.

Most of the kids trapped at 12th grade have already gotten their looks and have enough of a record on film and statistics.

The 8th graders are the ones that sort of miss a year of good challenging development with their grade peers - but not really much in the case of true development because ECNL teams aren’t built for “school friends” anyway - so it’s so sort of 90% a feeling and 10% a truth / fact.

There are some ECNL teams that have more Q4 kids than others - but they are the exception.

If you look at the pyramid too, developmentally at the top levels there is a normal distribution for birth quarters - only at the club and NT regional camps is there any relative age incidence. The national teams and professional teams do a good job looking at talent, potential, discipline, character, family life / environment, etc.

The research shows that the relative age effect is real, but its impact is specific, and narrow. And more than anything it is a limiting belief (feeling) than a long term impact (fact) - that said that belief does cause many families to use it as an excuse for why they or their athlete didn’t do the work to get the outcome that felt entitled to getting.