Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

Since neither you or your kid are athletes, you cannot understand. Why do you think you know what motivates other people. I supported my daughter's desire to play a travel sport because she loved it, it kept her incredibly fit, she works better with structure, exercise and being part of a team are essential for her mental health. College sports were never the goal. But surprisingly, she's playing D1 after all--and after her first semester at T20 university, has a 3.9 GPA. You really need to get over yourself. You and your kids are dorks, not well-liked and it's hard for you to see others doing well. But coming here and bashing anonymous strangers is not going to help you.

Maybe it wasn't the initial goal, but your daughter didn't get discovered on some 4th tier travel program. She clearly was playing for a club that gets interest from D1 programs, so you had to know she was a strong player with potential. That's a different calculation in the scheme of things in terms of continuing or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

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Did nothing to get my kid in college, travel sports..,,ok, I’ll give pps that.

But it gave him time management, grit, countless overcoming failure, cuts and he absolutely loves the sport. It made him a stronger person taught him how political and unfair sooooooooo much is- but if you keep doing what u love it starts to wash out.

He is a smart kid. Going to an Ivy. Not recruited. But good enough that he walked on the team after getting in on his own academic merit. He would not have been able to walk on this D1 team without the level and speed of play he had from his top club team—not the years upon years of commitment and time on his own training.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

I only read the OP.

D3 schools may give students an athletic scholarship under the guise of merit. They still have to meet GPA requirements but the money is obviously for athletics under a merit label. This is not uncommon. So, perhaps they aren't lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

That is absolute horse sh*t. Not even the Canes place 70% on D1 rosters. And if you are in the DC area, the 'elite' travel teams here place maybe 10% on D1 and another 20% on D3.

One thing is certaion about youth baseball though, the parents are the biggest liars of any sport by a country mile.

You can claim that all you want, but it’s true…and it’s also a national team with players coming from all over the East Coast. Some are Power 5 D1 but most are other D1.

Canes national teams are around 100% D1 because they won’t take you unless you are already committed.

Canes has a gazillion teams at each age group, so only their top 1-2 teams (which also draw from across the country) are the ones that are really elite.

Need any other schooling on travel teams?

You didn't school anyone, son. Name the DC ravel team that sends 70% of its players to D1.

Put up or shut up.

Are you dense? This is now the 3rd time I will mention it isn't a DC travel team. Go to the PG site and it's one of the 17u teams ranked in the Top 50 in the country. Sorry, not doxing kids because you don't understand how elite travel ball works.

We knew you were FOS.

Look...go play for your crappy travel team at some Dynamic tournament where even when you are playing on a college field, that college's coaches aren't even watching because they are at the real tournaments or watching college leagues for transfers. Patriot Park is and was great if you are playing 14u or 15u, but again, you won't find a college coach anywhere for those 16u or 17u PG and PBR tournaments which funnily enough are happening at the same time as the real tournaments in East Cobb, Hoover, Lakepoint, etc.. It's fine...you don't know any better.

FOS and angry. Sucks to be you.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

That is absolute horse sh*t. Not even the Canes place 70% on D1 rosters. And if you are in the DC area, the 'elite' travel teams here place maybe 10% on D1 and another 20% on D3.

One thing is certaion about youth baseball though, the parents are the biggest liars of any sport by a country mile.

You can claim that all you want, but it’s true…and it’s also a national team with players coming from all over the East Coast. Some are Power 5 D1 but most are other D1.

Canes national teams are around 100% D1 because they won’t take you unless you are already committed.

Canes has a gazillion teams at each age group, so only their top 1-2 teams (which also draw from across the country) are the ones that are really elite.

Need any other schooling on travel teams?

You didn't school anyone, son. Name the DC ravel team that sends 70% of its players to D1.

Put up or shut up.

Are you dense? This is now the 3rd time I will mention it isn't a DC travel team. Go to the PG site and it's one of the 17u teams ranked in the Top 50 in the country. Sorry, not doxing kids because you don't understand how elite travel ball works.

We knew you were FOS.

Look...go play for your crappy travel team at some Dynamic tournament where even when you are playing on a college field, that college's coaches aren't even watching because they are at the real tournaments or watching college leagues for transfers. Patriot Park is and was great if you are playing 14u or 15u, but again, you won't find a college coach anywhere for those 16u or 17u PG and PBR tournaments which funnily enough are happening at the same time as the real tournaments in East Cobb, Hoover, Lakepoint, etc.. It's fine...you don't know any better.

FOS and angry. Sucks to be you.

That's funny...you just keep spiraling.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

I only read the OP.

D3 schools may give students an athletic scholarship under the guise of merit. They still have to meet GPA requirements but the money is obviously for athletics under a merit label. This is not uncommon. So, perhaps they aren't lying.

+1. Experienced this in our own house.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I mean, I have the admissions letters with the actual costs that are significantly cheaper than public in-state but okay.

Significantly cheaper than community college too (excluding dorm, of course)? Like for like comparison.

Um of course not? What a dumb question. Significantly cheaper than public in-state, which is the only reasonable comparator.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

This is an utterly bizarre and utterly joyless outlook. I have kids who made it to college with significant funding, so technically worth it, and yet even my kids and I would never say that travel sports was for college.

The obsessed anti-athlete haters on DCUM are just so, so weird. I have come to the conclusion that they don’t actually know how to have fun, to do something for the love and enjoyment, so they have to see the world the way the PP does. They don’t understand joy, camaraderie, fitness, or any of the intangibles that sports brings.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

You can’t love the game in a rec league? Interesting.

That’s like expecting a concert pianist good enough to play on a grand piano with an orchestra to be happy with the broken stand-up piano in the musical theater room in the local high school.

I suppose you expect musicians to hobble their talents too, though. Nobody can derive pleasure from excelling in your world. Everyone must be hobbled so nobody excels: no musicians, no athletes, nobody can have drive, because that makes you unhappy.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

You can’t love the game in a rec league? Interesting.

Tell me you know nothing about baseball without telling me you know nothing about baseball.

Actually I know soccer - and there are about a zillion rec options. Don’t know much about baseball. The only thing I do on now is my friends son played rec all through high school and loved it. Enlighten me. Tell me what I’m missing.

Rec soccer quality is abysmal.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

That is absolute horse sh*t. Not even the Canes place 70% on D1 rosters. And if you are in the DC area, the 'elite' travel teams here place maybe 10% on D1 and another 20% on D3.

One thing is certaion about youth baseball though, the parents are the biggest liars of any sport by a country mile.

You can claim that all you want, but it’s true…and it’s also a national team with players coming from all over the East Coast. Some are Power 5 D1 but most are other D1.

Canes national teams are around 100% D1 because they won’t take you unless you are already committed.

Canes has a gazillion teams at each age group, so only their top 1-2 teams (which also draw from across the country) are the ones that are really elite.

Need any other schooling on travel teams?

You didn't school anyone, son. Name the DC ravel team that sends 70% of its players to D1.

Put up or shut up.

Are you dense? This is now the 3rd time I will mention it isn't a DC travel team. Go to the PG site and it's one of the 17u teams ranked in the Top 50 in the country. Sorry, not doxing kids because you don't understand how elite travel ball works.

We knew you were FOS.

Look...go play for your crappy travel team at some Dynamic tournament where even when you are playing on a college field, that college's coaches aren't even watching because they are at the real tournaments or watching college leagues for transfers. Patriot Park is and was great if you are playing 14u or 15u, but again, you won't find a college coach anywhere for those 16u or 17u PG and PBR tournaments which funnily enough are happening at the same time as the real tournaments in East Cobb, Hoover, Lakepoint, etc.. It's fine...you don't know any better.

FOS and angry. Sucks to be you.

That's funny...you just keep spiraling.

The PP is correct, though. There is no team that meets your description. You are lying.

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I was a D3 athlete in a lesser sport - cross country. We received a “shoe allowance” of $150 per season for cross country, indoor track, and outdoor track. When we traveled for meets, we were usually provided food. We got uniforms and warmup sweats of course, but I have heard that some schools also provide some practice clothing.

I was under the impression there were certain competitive merit scholarships where leadership as a team captain and/or past athletic achievements were considered very favorably and that some athletes were strongly encouraged to apply. These were not full ride by any means - more like a few thousand dollars per year.