Rutgers- why is this almost never mentioned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Princeton was once known as “The College of New Jersey.” There is a reason they changed their name over 100 years ago.

Now it is Rutgers that gets to be the College of New Jersey.

Um…The College of New Jersey (TCNJ) is the college of New Jersey.

Uh yeah, that is an actual college. Definitely not Rutgers.

The PP needs to do some research.

[Anonymous]

Since USNWR has changed its college rankings to focus more on some factors and less on others, colleges have gone up or down accordingly.

USNWR now cares more about social mobility and graduation outcomes for diverse students. They no longer care about class size or high school standing. This has made some colleges leap up in the rankings. It also has rewarded or incented colleges to focus more on FG/LI, economic diversity to move up. And its not penalized colleges for increasing class sizes.

USNWR doesn't rank what my DC cares about so it's not as interesting or relevant to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since USNWR has changed its college rankings to focus more on some factors and less on others, colleges have gone up or down accordingly.

USNWR now cares more about social mobility and graduation outcomes for diverse students. They no longer care about class size or high school standing. This has made some colleges leap up in the rankings. It also has rewarded or incented colleges to focus more on FG/LI, economic diversity to move up. And its not penalized colleges for increasing class sizes.

USNWR doesn't rank what my DC cares about so it's not as interesting or relevant to us.

Key Ranking Factors and Weights (2026 Edition):
Outcomes (40%): Includes graduation rates, retention rates, and post-graduate outcomes like earnings and debt.
Faculty Resources (20%): Covers class size, faculty salaries, student-faculty ratio, and proportion of faculty with terminal degrees.
Expert Opinion (20%): Based on peer assessments from academic leaders (e.g., presidents, deans) in the same category.
Financial Resources (10%): Measures spending per full-time-equivalent student on instruction and support services.
Student Excellence (7%): Includes SAT/ACT scores and high school class rank (used only if data is available for at least 50% of new entrants).
Social Mobility (3%): Assesses how well institutions support students from low-income backgrounds (e.g., Pell Grant recipients).

This is the part where you say "Oh it's only 3%, I was wrong, should have googled it first, mea culpa"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I were a NJ resident, Rutgers would be a no brainer.

I think this is the answer. It has a lot of in state appeal and little out of state appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were a NJ resident, Rutgers would be a no brainer.

I think this is the answer. It has a lot of in state appeal and little out of state appeal.

It’s not an appealing location. New Brunswick is New Haven without good pizza and the campus is spread out in three distinct areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since USNWR has changed its college rankings to focus more on some factors and less on others, colleges have gone up or down accordingly.

USNWR now cares more about social mobility and graduation outcomes for diverse students. They no longer care about class size or high school standing. This has made some colleges leap up in the rankings. It also has rewarded or incented colleges to focus more on FG/LI, economic diversity to move up. And its not penalized colleges for increasing class sizes.

USNWR doesn't rank what my DC cares about so it's not as interesting or relevant to us.

Key Ranking Factors and Weights (2026 Edition):
Outcomes (40%): Includes graduation rates, retention rates, and post-graduate outcomes like earnings and debt.
Faculty Resources (20%): Covers class size, faculty salaries, student-faculty ratio, and proportion of faculty with terminal degrees.
Expert Opinion (20%): Based on peer assessments from academic leaders (e.g., presidents, deans) in the same category.
Financial Resources (10%): Measures spending per full-time-equivalent student on instruction and support services.
Student Excellence (7%): Includes SAT/ACT scores and high school class rank (used only if data is available for at least 50% of new entrants).
Social Mobility (3%): Assesses how well institutions support students from low-income backgrounds (e.g., Pell Grant recipients).

This is the part where you say "Oh it's only 3%, I was wrong, should have googled it first, mea culpa"

Yeah, I didn't think you would, comrade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usnews has Rutgers noted as #12, but it is almost never brought up on DCUM as a suggestion when people are looking for larger or state schools.

Why?

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

Rutgers is a great school, but kids aren't feeling NJ like that. And unlike Ohio State, the sports aren't great for kids who want that Big 10 experience. Awesome for an in state option.

Kind of like UMD College Park.

With the move to the Common App, Rutgers New Brunswick no longer reports its admission rate. Anecdotally, it is believed to have fallen from 66% to 40% because the number of applications have nearly doubled. Much of the increase is attributable to OOS applicants, with NJ high schools counselors having been informed by Rutgers that in state students should no longer expect admission as easily as in the past.

OOS kids figured out that the school is only a 45 minute train ride to NYC, with good flagship academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since USNWR has changed its college rankings to focus more on some factors and less on others, colleges have gone up or down accordingly.

USNWR now cares more about social mobility and graduation outcomes for diverse students. They no longer care about class size or high school standing. This has made some colleges leap up in the rankings. It also has rewarded or incented colleges to focus more on FG/LI, economic diversity to move up. And its not penalized colleges for increasing class sizes.

USNWR doesn't rank what my DC cares about so it's not as interesting or relevant to us.

Key Ranking Factors and Weights (2026 Edition):
Outcomes (40%): Includes graduation rates, retention rates, and post-graduate outcomes like earnings and debt.
Faculty Resources (20%): Covers class size, faculty salaries, student-faculty ratio, and proportion of faculty with terminal degrees.
Expert Opinion (20%): Based on peer assessments from academic leaders (e.g., presidents, deans) in the same category.
Financial Resources (10%): Measures spending per full-time-equivalent student on instruction and support services.
Student Excellence (7%): Includes SAT/ACT scores and high school class rank (used only if data is available for at least 50% of new entrants).
Social Mobility (3%): Assesses how well institutions support students from low-income backgrounds (e.g., Pell Grant recipients).

This is the part where you say "Oh it's only 3%, I was wrong, should have googled it first, mea culpa"

+1

Exactly.

People need to get a grip.

[Anonymous]

Where do slin-state students go if not their NJ flagship?

[Anonymous]

*in-state

[Anonymous]

Needs to change its name to UNJ. it's the state school but doesn't have the state name and loses momentum and state pride as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Needs to change its name to UNJ. it's the state school but doesn't have the state name and loses momentum and state pride as a result.

Everyone knows the name Rutgers is the state flagship

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do slin-state students go if not their NJ flagship?

TCNJ, Kean, Rowan, NJIT, William Paterson, Montclair State, Richard Stockton…there are 10 or so public colleges in NJ besides Rutgers (which itself has tjeee campuses with separate admissions processes). There are several popular private universities as well, including Seton Hall, Monmouth, Stevens and Princeton.

And honestly, at least back in the dark ages, a lot of us just went OOS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Needs to change its name to UNJ. it's the state school but doesn't have the state name and loses momentum and state pride as a result.

The full name is Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey.

FWIW, the College of New Jersey was actually Trenton State until 1996. So that confusion is relatively recent.

[Anonymous]

James Gandolfino (Tony Soprano) went there. Gotta problem with Rutgers?