“Domestic supply of infants”

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

That's the reality. Are you willing to take care of your aging parents and ILs, especially if they have dementia or other health issues?

I am not going to have more kids just for that reason

Then immigrants will care for you? Or will we pass assisted medical suicide? Old people are a drain on the economy. They don’t provide anything in terms of economic production.

Babies and children are a drain on the economy

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

That's the reality. Are you willing to take care of your aging parents and ILs, especially if they have dementia or other health issues?

I am not going to have more kids just for that reason

Then immigrants will care for you? Or will we pass assisted medical suicide? Old people are a drain on the economy. They don’t provide anything in terms of economic production.

Babies and children are a drain on the economy

You’re not very bright if you think that…Yes, I guess they lack purchasing power but the parents of those kids are America’s greatest consumers.

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I don't think more people is the solution to our problems.

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People are valuable apart from their “economic value.”

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"Domestic supply of infants" = human trafficking = P*zz*g*te. Look up adre no chrome. Moloch worshipers.

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Anonymous wrote:People are valuable apart from their “economic value.”

We’d be more valuable if there were less of us.

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Anonymous wrote:"Domestic supply of infants" = human trafficking = P*zz*g*te. Look up adre no chrome. Moloch worshipers.

You're not a q person, and neither are people worried about fertility rates.

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

Tell me you have no understanding of economics without telling me you have no understanding of economics.


Old people do not work. Old people generally do not buy stuff. The big consumer group is young parents. The younger generation is providing *financial* basis for elderly care. Old people live on fixed incomes and depend on stable financial markets and stable economy, which is provided by the younger generation. It’s always worked this way in the modern era.

Do you get turned on talking down to people?

Overpopulation in the face of scarce resources is a legitimate concern.

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

That's the reality. Are you willing to take care of your aging parents and ILs, especially if they have dementia or other health issues?

I am not going to have more kids just for that reason

Then immigrants will care for you? Or will we pass assisted medical suicide? Old people are a drain on the economy. They don’t provide anything in terms of economic production.

Agreed. So why is everyone trying so hard to join them?

I see no benefit to living into my 90s. I've seen what that looks like.

You don't but others do.

My aunt just passed away. She was 97. My dad is 90 and still pretty healthy. Hardly goes to the doctor. I'm sorry no one wants you to live that long.

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Anonymous wrote:The obsession with getting a "healthy infant" at all costs confounds me. I definitely believe it's part of the forced-birth ideology. There are a lot of women out there praying nightly that some 15 year old white girl who never drank or did drugs gets pregnant in red state far from a blue state, just so she can have her perfect newborn.

I believe this is part of the propaganda fed to vulnerable women who don't have children, but want to adopt a healthy white child. That's why they support banning abortion. They want to have these lovely, healthy white children to adopt, and for their childless friends to adopt.

Sickening. Sick.

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Anonymous wrote:People are valuable apart from their “economic value.”

Yes, of course but it is also ok to talk about the large problems we will face with a declining population.

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

Tell me you have no understanding of economics without telling me you have no understanding of economics.


Old people do not work. Old people generally do not buy stuff. The big consumer group is young parents. The younger generation is providing *financial* basis for elderly care. Old people live on fixed incomes and depend on stable financial markets and stable economy, which is provided by the younger generation. It’s always worked this way in the modern era.

Do you get turned on talking down to people?

Overpopulation in the face of scarce resources is a legitimate concern.

Yes condescension and sarcasm are my kinks. Are you new to DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:I really take issue with the concept of increasing the birth rate as a means to take care of elderly generations. That is not the solution we should be going for.

That's the reality. Are you willing to take care of your aging parents and ILs, especially if they have dementia or other health issues?

I am not going to have more kids just for that reason

Then immigrants will care for you? Or will we pass assisted medical suicide? Old people are a drain on the economy. They don’t provide anything in terms of economic production.

Babies and children are a drain on the economy

Everyone should stop having children and the economy would go to infinity right? The country definitely wouldn't die off and the economy definitely wouldn't drop to zero.

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Making abortion illegal REDUCES birth rates overall

so many people have only linear first order thinking

When you make abortion illegal, men and women are more reticent to f**k in oecd countries.

If you want to increase birth rates, you have to keep abortion legal but reduce years/intensity of schooling

The collapse in birth rates in the us comes from 16-24 year olds not having kids like they did in the 80s and 90s


Infant mortality has already increased since Roe v Wade.

Forcing women to have babies may mean you have fewer babies in the long run: once the mother is forced to carry a baby that will die upon birth, will she really want to have another baby?

In the US, all it would take to increase the birth rate is paid maternity and paternity leave for at least three months, plus affordable child care.

My dh and I decided not to adopt because...it was too expensive, over and above the actual childcare costs post adoption.

+1 We have one child because we could not afford to have two children in daycare. It's a serious amount of money.

+1 We have two but they are 4.5 years apart so they wouldn’t be in daycare or college at the same time. I had my first at 31 so I had the time to choose that spacing, but not everyone does.

Why is there a need to increase birth rate?

Only to create workers to support all the old people. Otherwise there is no reason, and in fact the earth’s population has exploded so much in the past century that it is not sustainable.

They are talking about birthrate for people with white skin. There are plenty of immigrants who are happy to take care of old white people in the US and europe, but the xenophobia makes this very difficult to execute.

In countries where having babies of certain ethnic background is a priority, they tend to provide direct payments to parents to remove financial barriers.

In the US, it doesn't make sense to say people want to restrict abortion to increase white babies. Whites have very low abortion rates, so restricting abortion would actually increase the percentage of non-white births. In other words, as a percentage, the number of white births would actually decline as a result of abortion restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Making abortion illegal REDUCES birth rates overall

so many people have only linear first order thinking

When you make abortion illegal, men and women are more reticent to f**k in oecd countries.

If you want to increase birth rates, you have to keep abortion legal but reduce years/intensity of schooling

The collapse in birth rates in the us comes from 16-24 year olds not having kids like they did in the 80s and 90s


Infant mortality has already increased since Roe v Wade.

Forcing women to have babies may mean you have fewer babies in the long run: once the mother is forced to carry a baby that will die upon birth, will she really want to have another baby?

In the US, all it would take to increase the birth rate is paid maternity and paternity leave for at least three months, plus affordable child care.

My dh and I decided not to adopt because...it was too expensive, over and above the actual childcare costs post adoption.

+1 We have one child because we could not afford to have two children in daycare. It's a serious amount of money.

+1 We have two but they are 4.5 years apart so they wouldn’t be in daycare or college at the same time. I had my first at 31 so I had the time to choose that spacing, but not everyone does.

Why is there a need to increase birth rate?

Only to create workers to support all the old people. Otherwise there is no reason, and in fact the earth’s population has exploded so much in the past century that it is not sustainable.

They are talking about birthrate for people with white skin. There are plenty of immigrants who are happy to take care of old white people in the US and europe, but the xenophobia makes this very difficult to execute.

In countries where having babies of certain ethnic background is a priority, they tend to provide direct payments to parents to remove financial barriers.

In the US, it doesn't make sense to say people want to restrict abortion to increase white babies. Whites have very low abortion rates, so restricting abortion would actually increase the percentage of non-white births. In other words, as a percentage, the number of white births would actually decline as a result of abortion restrictions.

All births have declined in countries following abortion restrictions.