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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote:

Making abortion illegal REDUCES birth rates overall

so many people have only linear first order thinking

When you make abortion illegal, men and women are more reticent to f**k in oecd countries.

If you want to increase birth rates, you have to keep abortion legal but reduce years/intensity of schooling

The collapse in birth rates in the us comes from 16-24 year olds not having kids like they did in the 80s and 90s

Infant mortality has already increased since Roe v Wade.

Forcing women to have babies may mean you have fewer babies in the long run: once the mother is forced to carry a baby that will die upon birth, will she really want to have another baby?

In the US, all it would take to increase the birth rate is paid maternity and paternity leave for at least three months, plus affordable child care.

My dh and I decided not to adopt because...it was too expensive, over and above the actual childcare costs post adoption.[/quote]

+1 We have one child because we could not afford to have two children in daycare. It's a serious amount of money. [/quote]
+1 We have two but they are 4.5 years apart so they wouldn’t be in daycare or college at the same time. I had my first at 31 so I had the time to choose that spacing, but not everyone does.[/quote]
Why is there a need to increase birth rate?[/quote]

Only to create workers to support all the old people. Otherwise there is no reason, and in fact the earth’s population has exploded so much in the past century that it is not sustainable. [/quote]

They are talking about birthrate for people with white skin. There are plenty of immigrants who are happy to take care of old white people in the US and europe, but the xenophobia makes this very difficult to execute.[/quote]

In countries where having babies of certain ethnic background is a priority, they tend to provide direct payments to parents to remove financial barriers.

In the US, it doesn't make sense to say people want to restrict abortion to increase white babies. Whites have very low abortion rates, so restricting abortion would actually increase the percentage of non-white births. In other words, as a percentage, the number of white births would actually decline as a result of abortion restrictions.  [/quote]

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