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Anonymous wrote:Haley is so damn reasonable .

Are you sure she is a Republican?

She and maybe Christie at times are clearly the only people on that stage that can articulate a case for being considered for POTUS.

Agree. I would feel comfortable with either of them as POTUS and I generally vote for democrats. Depressing that Trump is so far ahead.

+1, I think they are doing a great job staying the course for when Trump inevitably is convicted of something in one of the criminal matters. The Dems should be worried if Haley somehow emerges with the nomination. I’ve never voted for a R for president before but I would vote for Haley over Biden.

I really don't see republican voters lining up behind Nimarata against Trump.

Haley won two terms as governor of in the conservatively red state of South Carolina. Republicans didn't hesitate to line up for her then and they wouldn't in a general presidential election either. Overtaking Trump for the nomination may not be possible but as the PP noted, if/when Trump was forced out with legal troubles, Republicans would have a replacement they could actually be proud of.

A much better case scenario for the country would be both Trump and Biden dropping out with the parties instead nominating people like Haley and Whitmer. What a breath of fresh air it would be for the country to have a choice between two experienced executives that are in the prime of their careers and moderate enough to lead all the people in fair manner. Both Whitmer and Haley are obviously more fit than Trump and Biden to serve the country well as POTUS and it would be entertaining for all the right reasons to see them together on a debate stage as opposed to the Trump/Biden debates of 2020 that were frankly an embarrassment for the country. The political policy differences between the parties aren't the cause of our dysfunction in government; it's the people in leadership positions in government that are causing the dysfunction. I certainly wouldn't agree with many of the political viewpoints of both Haley and Whitmer but I would be content with either of them in office knowing we have a very decent and highly competent person serving in the most important and powerful position in the world.

Dream on. This country won't elect a competent woman or we would never have been stuck with trump for 4 years. One day yes but in 2024? We just overturned roe for Pete's sake.

Maybe not in your dark, isolated, sexist corner of the world but most everyone else doesn't care what the gender of the candidate is. It's the quality of the candidate that matters. Grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:Haley is so damn reasonable .

Are you sure she is a Republican?

She and maybe Christie at times are clearly the only people on that stage that can articulate a case for being considered for POTUS.

Agree. I would feel comfortable with either of them as POTUS and I generally vote for democrats. Depressing that Trump is so far ahead.

+1, I think they are doing a great job staying the course for when Trump inevitably is convicted of something in one of the criminal matters. The Dems should be worried if Haley somehow emerges with the nomination. I’ve never voted for a R for president before but I would vote for Haley over Biden.

I really don't see republican voters lining up behind Nimarata against Trump.

Haley won two terms as governor of in the conservatively red state of South Carolina. Republicans didn't hesitate to line up for her then and they wouldn't in a general presidential election either. Overtaking Trump for the nomination may not be possible but as the PP noted, if/when Trump was forced out with legal troubles, Republicans would have a replacement they could actually be proud of.

A much better case scenario for the country would be both Trump and Biden dropping out with the parties instead nominating people like Haley and Whitmer. What a breath of fresh air it would be for the country to have a choice between two experienced executives that are in the prime of their careers and moderate enough to lead all the people in fair manner. Both Whitmer and Haley are obviously more fit than Trump and Biden to serve the country well as POTUS and it would be entertaining for all the right reasons to see them together on a debate stage as opposed to the Trump/Biden debates of 2020 that were frankly an embarrassment for the country. The political policy differences between the parties aren't the cause of our dysfunction in government; it's the people in leadership positions in government that are causing the dysfunction. I certainly wouldn't agree with many of the political viewpoints of both Haley and Whitmer but I would be content with either of them in office knowing we have a very decent and highly competent person serving in the most important and powerful position in the world.

Dream on. This country won't elect a competent woman or we would never have been stuck with trump for 4 years. One day yes but in 2024? We just overturned roe for Pete's sake.

Maybe not in your dark, isolated, sexist corner of the world but most everyone else doesn't care what the gender of the candidate is. It's the quality of the candidate that matters. Grow up.

Yea, Trump was and is a quality candidate. If you don’t agree, then you’re as immature as Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Haley is so damn reasonable .

Are you sure she is a Republican?

She and maybe Christie at times are clearly the only people on that stage that can articulate a case for being considered for POTUS.

Out of that lot I like those two the best. I’ve always liked Chris Christie. I think it’s a shame that he had such a sharp decline after the bridge fiasco. Somebody up thread wondered if it was weight discrimination. Maybe but that’s a shame because he is on the moderate side.

The "bridge fiasco" should have ended his political career.

Still, he is the best GOP on that stage, which is why he doesn't stand a chance, because he is too sane.

I'm not going to vote for a Republican at this point, but if Haley or Christie became president I wouldn't feel the sick dread that I will feel if Trump became president again.

Me too!

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Best comment on Christie from a constituent when he was NJ governor. "He's a jerk, but a jerk on our side".

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Anonymous wrote:Haley is so damn reasonable .

Are you sure she is a Republican?

She and maybe Christie at times are clearly the only people on that stage that can articulate a case for being considered for POTUS.

Agree. I would feel comfortable with either of them as POTUS and I generally vote for democrats. Depressing that Trump is so far ahead.

+1, I think they are doing a great job staying the course for when Trump inevitably is convicted of something in one of the criminal matters. The Dems should be worried if Haley somehow emerges with the nomination. I’ve never voted for a R for president before but I would vote for Haley over Biden.

I really don't see republican voters lining up behind Nimarata against Trump.

Haley won two terms as governor of in the conservatively red state of South Carolina. Republicans didn't hesitate to line up for her then and they wouldn't in a general presidential election either. Overtaking Trump for the nomination may not be possible but as the PP noted, if/when Trump was forced out with legal troubles, Republicans would have a replacement they could actually be proud of.

A much better case scenario for the country would be both Trump and Biden dropping out with the parties instead nominating people like Haley and Whitmer. What a breath of fresh air it would be for the country to have a choice between two experienced executives that are in the prime of their careers and moderate enough to lead all the people in fair manner. Both Whitmer and Haley are obviously more fit than Trump and Biden to serve the country well as POTUS and it would be entertaining for all the right reasons to see them together on a debate stage as opposed to the Trump/Biden debates of 2020 that were frankly an embarrassment for the country. The political policy differences between the parties aren't the cause of our dysfunction in government; it's the people in leadership positions in government that are causing the dysfunction. I certainly wouldn't agree with many of the political viewpoints of both Haley and Whitmer but I would be content with either of them in office knowing we have a very decent and highly competent person serving in the most important and powerful position in the world.

Dream on. This country won't elect a competent woman or we would never have been stuck with trump for 4 years. One day yes but in 2024? We just overturned roe for Pete's sake.

Maybe not in your dark, isolated, sexist corner of the world but most everyone else doesn't care what the gender of the candidate is. It's the quality of the candidate that matters. Grow up.

Ummm...the dark isolated sexist corners of this country punch way above their weight in the electoral college system. 2016 was not long ago. The winning candidate has to be able to get some of those dark isolated sexist votes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haley is so damn reasonable .

Are you sure she is a Republican?

She and maybe Christie at times are clearly the only people on that stage that can articulate a case for being considered for POTUS.

Agree. I would feel comfortable with either of them as POTUS and I generally vote for democrats. Depressing that Trump is so far ahead.

+1, I think they are doing a great job staying the course for when Trump inevitably is convicted of something in one of the criminal matters. The Dems should be worried if Haley somehow emerges with the nomination. I’ve never voted for a R for president before but I would vote for Haley over Biden.

I really don't see republican voters lining up behind Nimarata against Trump.

Haley won two terms as governor of in the conservatively red state of South Carolina. Republicans didn't hesitate to line up for her then and they wouldn't in a general presidential election either. Overtaking Trump for the nomination may not be possible but as the PP noted, if/when Trump was forced out with legal troubles, Republicans would have a replacement they could actually be proud of.

A much better case scenario for the country would be both Trump and Biden dropping out with the parties instead nominating people like Haley and Whitmer. What a breath of fresh air it would be for the country to have a choice between two experienced executives that are in the prime of their careers and moderate enough to lead all the people in fair manner. Both Whitmer and Haley are obviously more fit than Trump and Biden to serve the country well as POTUS and it would be entertaining for all the right reasons to see them together on a debate stage as opposed to the Trump/Biden debates of 2020 that were frankly an embarrassment for the country. The political policy differences between the parties aren't the cause of our dysfunction in government; it's the people in leadership positions in government that are causing the dysfunction. I certainly wouldn't agree with many of the political viewpoints of both Haley and Whitmer but I would be content with either of them in office knowing we have a very decent and highly competent person serving in the most important and powerful position in the world.

Dream on. This country won't elect a competent woman or we would never have been stuck with trump for 4 years. One day yes but in 2024? We just overturned roe for Pete's sake.

Maybe not in your dark, isolated, sexist corner of the world but most everyone else doesn't care what the gender of the candidate is. It's the quality of the candidate that matters. Grow up.

Yea, Trump was and is a quality candidate. If you don’t agree, then you’re as immature as Trump?

Trump was a quality candidate on what planet? Crawl back under your rock

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Haley looking good in New Hampshire after the debate - picking up Scott’s supporters?

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Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

+1 very well said

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

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- dem voter

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

If she’s willing to go along with the GOP’s forced birth abortion bans, whether or not she puts a better spoken face on it, that’s fascistic.

Oh look, she’s putting a kinder, gentler face on the policies that would send women back to the dark ages: “As a governor and a state legislator, she supported anti-abortion laws and continues to pledge to sign the most restrictive one that would reach her desk.” And you could bet your bottom dollar that she would put more forced birther judges on the Supreme Court, too.

So, no. I will not go along with your attempt to put a happy smiley face on the fire boiling us slowly vs cooking us instantly. I cannot believe that anyone is willing to put a positive spin on forced birther garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

If she’s willing to go along with the GOP’s forced birth abortion bans, whether or not she puts a better spoken face on it, that’s fascistic.

Oh look, she’s putting a kinder, gentler face on the policies that would send women back to the dark ages: “As a governor and a state legislator, she supported anti-abortion laws and continues to pledge to sign the most restrictive one that would reach her desk.” And you could bet your bottom dollar that she would put more forced birther judges on the Supreme Court, too.

So, no. I will not go along with your attempt to put a happy smiley face on the fire boiling us slowly vs cooking us instantly. I cannot believe that anyone is willing to put a positive spin on forced birther garbage.

+1 Haley as Governor of South Carolina actually signed the six-week abortion ban that went into effect after Roe fell. So while it’s clear that she has the best messaging on this issue and it’s fooling some people, her actions when in power show that she DOES NOT “respect other people’s personal views on abortion that may differ from hers.”

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Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

If she’s willing to go along with the GOP’s forced birth abortion bans, whether or not she puts a better spoken face on it, that’s fascistic.

Oh look, she’s putting a kinder, gentler face on the policies that would send women back to the dark ages: “As a governor and a state legislator, she supported anti-abortion laws and continues to pledge to sign the most restrictive one that would reach her desk.” And you could bet your bottom dollar that she would put more forced birther judges on the Supreme Court, too.

So, no. I will not go along with your attempt to put a happy smiley face on the fire boiling us slowly vs cooking us instantly. I cannot believe that anyone is willing to put a positive spin on forced birther garbage.

+1 Haley as Governor of South Carolina actually signed the six-week abortion ban that went into effect after Roe fell. So while it’s clear that she has the best messaging on this issue and it’s fooling some people, her actions when in power show that she DOES NOT “respect other people’s personal views on abortion that may differ from hers.”

Uhh.. Haley was no longer governor of SC when R v W was overturned and the ban she signed while governor was at 19 weeks. Nevertheless, she is no doubt a pro-lifer that would be okay with a ban at an earlier stage than 19 weeks because per her reasoning, her husband was adopted and she thinks every baby should have that opportunity. I don't agree with that but I also don't consider her a forced birther in the same way I don't consider someone that advocates for abortion to be legal up to birth a baby killer. I personally think a woman should have the right to choose up to at least 30 weeks and maybe 35 or 40 but I acknowledge that I need to be better educated on the science aspect of the issue before determining my exact beliefs on the issue. I'm pretty sure most of us need to be better educated on the issue. Does the fact that I'm okay with a ban on very late stage abortions make me a "forced-birther"? I hope not. Let's all grow up and start treating this issue like the complex issue it is. It isn't as simple as you're either a forced-birther or a baby-killer.

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Anonymous wrote:Haley looking good in New Hampshire after the debate - picking up Scott’s supporters?

And in a different poll