Republican NBC News debate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she is the nominee, she is a pro-life fascist.

While I don't agree with Haley's stance on abortion, I appreciate her being as thorough, open, and honest as any candidate on either side when articulating why she is pro-life. She has a deeply personal reason for being pro-life but she makes it clear that she respects other peoples personal views on abortion that may differ from her's. You can call Trump a fascist wannabe and that's fair but calling Haley a fascist is just blind partisan ignorance in the same manner it would be for a Republican to call Biden a communist. We're only set back further from a return to political normalcy when being this stubbornly partisan. Haley is unlikely to ever get my vote but we'd all be better off if someone with her integrity was the leader of one of two major parties relative to Trump being in that position. We should all make an effort to distinguish between the good/normal/decent and bad/abnormal/indecent within our party and the opposing party instead of painting all with one brush.

[Anonymous]

Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

Because the least worst politics is still better than Trump's worst worst politics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

Ok. Well let’s see how things go with the guy advocating putting immigrants in concentration camps, and throwing political opponents in prison. Samsies!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

Ok. Well let’s see how things go with the guy advocating putting immigrants in concentration camps, and throwing political opponents in prison. Samsies!!

More like: both of these individuals are part of the same trashy party with fascist tendencies. Both would ban abortion. Both would follow the Project 2025 template. Both would nominate more activist judges. Neither is an acceptable person; one of them manages to put glossy hair and lip gloss on it but they’re still both members of the same party.

I seriously cannot believe that you guys are falling for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

Ok. Well let’s see how things go with the guy advocating putting immigrants in concentration camps, and throwing political opponents in prison. Samsies!!

More like: both of these individuals are part of the same trashy party with fascist tendencies. Both would ban abortion. Both would follow the Project 2025 template. Both would nominate more activist judges. Neither is an acceptable person; one of them manages to put glossy hair and lip gloss on it but they’re still both members of the same party.

I seriously cannot believe that you guys are falling for this.

Don’t be daft.
I’m a democrat and will not be voting for her, but there is no indication she is part of project 2025. Of course the media is covering for her and not asking… but I’m skeptical. She’s never been one to spout deep state rhetoric. If she’s the nominee serious Republicans will be clawing their way to get back into the seat of power. That’s actually a good thing.
Of course the better thing is democrats keeping the presidency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of mainstream republicans talked a lot of big talk when Roe was settled law.
Lots of republican politicians were very happy to sign performative “bans” when Roe protected them from the consequences of their politics.
Now we get to separate the zealots away from the mainstream republicans.
I’m not convinced of Haley one way or the other, but she is the least odious and the most serious candidate the republicans have to offer.

So her vice signaling is acceptable because she was protected and therefore it’s less odious? Why are you trying to give people with just the worst politics leeway?

Ok. Well let’s see how things go with the guy advocating putting immigrants in concentration camps, and throwing political opponents in prison. Samsies!!

More like: both of these individuals are part of the same trashy party with fascist tendencies. Both would ban abortion. Both would follow the Project 2025 template. Both would nominate more activist judges. Neither is an acceptable person; one of them manages to put glossy hair and lip gloss on it but they’re still both members of the same party.

I seriously cannot believe that you guys are falling for this.

Don’t be daft.
I’m a democrat and will not be voting for her, but there is no indication she is part of project 2025. Of course the media is covering for her and not asking… but I’m skeptical. She’s never been one to spout deep state rhetoric. If she’s the nominee serious Republicans will be clawing their way to get back into the seat of power. That’s actually a good thing.
Of course the better thing is democrats keeping the presidency.

Democrats will hopefully keep the presidency but it's a 50/50 chance at best with Biden as the nominee. Replace Biden and it's a 90/10 chance Democrats keep the presidency.