Sat 1380, gpa 4.07w in fcps

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech hates TJ kids and TJ kids hate Virginia Tech. Law of nature.

Another sore loser, claiming to speak for everyone because your kid didn’t get in. VT is my TJ kid’s top choice. And if he doesn’t get in, I don’t plan on disparaging the school like some sulky kid.

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Anonymous wrote:^^you know 50 high stats kids rejected from VT?

Yes. If you have 2 kids at TJ, 3 years apart, you would too!

+1. Just go read the VT decisions posted by TJ parents and kids here over the last two years

You mean the same sad three disgruntled parents who can’t seem to remove the huge chip from their shoulders? Please.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to see this Facebook. Somebidy is either lying or about to be fired

If you're on that UMD group and see the thread, you can easily corroborate that the person posting has been in an admissions role there for over 20 years and part of their current responsibilities makes them highly qualified to speak on the topic of the thread. They're not your typical FB crackpot. I think they are trying to be helpful, but I can't imagine this is info that her bosses would want posted.

It is helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:^^you know 50 high stats kids rejected from VT?

Yes. If you have 2 kids at TJ, 3 years apart, you would too!

+1. Just go read the VT decisions posted by TJ parents and kids here over the last two years

You mean the same sad three disgruntled parents who can’t seem to remove the huge chip from their shoulders? Please.

NP, there does seem to be an unusually small number of TJ kids that report attending Tech.
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/2023seniorissue
https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/senior_issue_2022_combined

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Anonymous wrote:^^you know 50 high stats kids rejected from VT?

Yes. If you have 2 kids at TJ, 3 years apart, you would too!

If you offered to pay me a billion dollars I couldn’t name 50 kids AND all their admissions outcomes at DC’s school.

GET. A. HOBBY.

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Boy this thread took a turn.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy this thread took a turn.

It did. Unfortunately some folks get a tad defensive.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy this thread took a turn.

It did. Unfortunately some folks get a tad defensive.

Tad? VT parents are way too about 'their' precious school. Getting worse than UVA parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy this thread took a turn.

It did. Unfortunately some folks get a tad defensive.

Tad? VT parents are way too about 'their' precious school. Getting worse than UVA parents.

+1. No one else cares.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that kids have to stress over this kind of question is one more illustration that the system is broken. This kid's score is good enough for any of these schools, but now its a game about whether the college will ding him if they feel like it will pull down the average they want to report (as opposed to the average they actually have in the freshman class). They will admit kids with this score and lower, but a lot of them won't be reported, and no one knows where the line is drawn for submitting.

This university image game should not be a problem universities put on the shoulders of the kids.

Agree 100 %

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Anonymous wrote:Would you submit SAT for the following schools:

UVA
W&M
VA Tech

White male, Business major. (Pre business for uva).

I know these are reach schools btw.

Based on <50 percentile I would not, but 1380 is in the 92nd percentile overall and I don’t want them to think it’s like an 1100 if he doesnt submit.

He will be competitive at all of them.

What do you base this on?

Experience. Acceptances of my own two white kids, albeit from LCPS. Similar numbers.

UVA may depends on course rigor and other intangibles and how they construct class rank (I know FCPS doesn’t rank, but believe be the admissions offices do and UVa wants top 10%). Similar for W&M (although why W&M for business?). VT the supplementals matter but the numbers are a stronger fit. Demonstrated interest with admissions counselor assigned to VT also helps.

My two were 3-for-3 with these schools with 1420 and 1150 and 4.66 and 3.98 weighted, respectively.

Hi - Can you elaborate on this? I thought VT doesn't care about demonstrated interest.

VT says demonstrated interest does not count. The kids applying to VT from DS's high school would fill their auditorium - I don't think the VT regional admissions counselor was taking notes on attendance.

I say this with no data at my disposal, just an observation. This is the first admissions cycle in a while that ED is NOT part of the admissions process. You could argue that demonstrated interest was very important historically with ED and communications describing high stat kids being denied. There also appears to be a surprisingly small number of TJ kids attending considering its the "tech school" of Virginia. Tech will be very interesting.

Tech has routinely been rejecting high stats kids out of TJ to protect yield.. Kids that got into UVA, UMD, UIUC, Michigan, Purdue, Cornell, etc. Word spreads..

PP, yep. Wonder if that will now change since they got rid of ED??

Not sure.. Other schools have stepped up.. UMD and NorthEastern gave my kid enough money to make the cost come down to about the same as UVA, Purdue doesn't cost that much more that VA instate, etc. and all of these are decidedly better schools that Tech.(saying that as a Tech alum). Tech's priorities seem to be different.

Purdue is ranked 43. UMD is 46. Northeastern is 53. VT is ranked 47. But do go on!

DP: VT went up in the 2024 rankings because of its focus on accepting students with Pell Grants (they accepted 100% of Pell Grant applicants to engineering for instance--look at their institutional data). This helped them move up in the rankings, but doesn't mean they have improved as an educational institution. I personally think it's great that they are focused on First generation/Pell grant students--but that does mean there will be less resources available for highly qualified other students. I also don't think having more Pell Grant students should be a factor in the USNWR or other ratings.

Pell Grants make up only 3% of the USNWR ranking criteria. This outsized emphasis you and others on DCUM are putting on it is absurd. VT is an excellent school and is ranked appropriately.

Given that the differences between ranks are often based on hundredths and tenths of points, 3% has an outsized effect -- as you can see in the changes in results. Look at the actual numbers. VT is a fine school--but that is how it moved up the ranks. Analyze the numbers and you will see.

I have already analyzed the numbers, and frankly, feel that the most recent rankings are more reflective of many of the schools. Some went up, some went down - and for the most part, I agree with the outcome.

On what basis do you agree with the outcome??? How do you know the quality of such a range of schools?
And I meant analyze the impact of the Pell Grant category. It can move schools significantly when you look at just how small the differences are between schools that are ranked 10-20 apart from one another.

Too funny. I bet you were in solid agreement with the rankings just last year, were you not? But now that certain schools have risen or fallen, you're outraged?

No, not at all. I think the rankings are overall dumb--and are shown to be even dumber when schools can move up or down 5-20 points based on the number of Pell grant students they admit or other factors that I think are meaningless to the quality of education. I advocate for the Princeton Review approach which sets a benchmark for schools to be included, provides data on them all, but doesn't rank--or the NYTimes interactive tool that lets you rank depending on the factors that are important to you. USNWR and other ranking systems have made higher education far worse.