Abortion should be limited, which Dems in VA decidedly did NOT want to do. |
It *is* limited. It doesn't need to be limited any more. |
Nice try. Republicans want to ban abortion, full stop. You can’t change that by attempting to flip the issue around. The mainstream Democratic position on reproductive freedom is popular, whereas the Republican position is so repellant that Republican candidates and voters don’t want to talk about it. Ignoring it doesn’t make it any less true. |
+1 Youngkin: we can't be honest during an election or we will lose voters |
DP- For many years, the idea was "safe, legal and rare". I would not describe abortion as "rare" today, thus a lot of the pushback by opponents. |
The idea is women get to control their own lives and their own bodies. This isn't some new position for conservatives. And abortion rates have been dropping for decades.
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Like most forced birthers you have no idea what you're talking about. When Clinton was talking about “safe, legal and rare” there were 1.6 million abortions annually in the US. Now there are less than a million while the US population is much larger. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/11/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/ |
Don’t let facts get in the way of PP’s misogyny. |
It is already limited and most Ds think the current laws are reasonable. The vast majority of Virginians (Ds & Rs) either want the laws to stay the same or become less strict. Only a small portion of VA wants to limit them even more. "Half of Virginians polled (50%) said that state abortion laws are reasonable and should not be altered while 25% said they are too lenient and 18% said they are too strict. Democrats were more likely to say that Virginia’s abortion laws are either reasonable (56%) or too strict (35%)" https://wilder.vcu.edu/news-and-events/news-articles/2022-july-poll-2.html |
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https://www.umw.edu/news/2023/09/27/virginians-closely-divided-over-2023-legislative-elections-in-statewide-survey/
Virginians Closely Divided Over 2023 Legislative Elections in Statewide Survey Among the subset of likely voters, 42 percent said they would like to see the Democrats in charge and 42 percent said they favor Republican control. |
| That still leaves a huge portion of undecideds |
Which is the scary part. |
| In the words of Bill Clinton - “it’s about the economy stupid”. That’s what the 24 election will be about 1st and foremost, followed by crime and education, with abortion a distant 4th at best. |
Recent elections do not hold here |
That was back when we had RvW and assumed SCOTUS ruling would hold. No one could have predicted the extent that the extremists would go to to secure justices. We didn’t know how unscrupulous they really were. |