LOL at this mess of basic arithmetic dressed up as some kind is meaningful insight with a dash of 1950s sexism at the end. |
Boys are very definitely educated differently now than they were when I was a kid. And if one accepts the (asinine and false) claim that boys are rejecting education, I guess that means your conclusion is "oh well let's give up on boys then"? One could note that over the past decades, whenever girls are "underrepresented" in any educational area (most notably STEM) there is a huge push to fix this and to encourage girls to study the subject. But when boys fall behind, the reaction from women is shrug, "oh well, what can you do." Disgusting. |
The deliberate policy is to put people in prison as punishment for their crimes and to prevent them from committing more crimes. This is a good policy. |
It is disgusting but boys are not stupid. They know what time it is. My DS tells me the majority of boys at his high school now lean right; we live in a very liberal town. |
I'm paying taxes, and that means teachers should do their jobs. Which includes teaching everyone not just some kids. Shall we have teachers adopt a teaching style best suited to boys, and see if you're still indifferent when girls don't like it and start doing badly? |
That was back when boys were doing roughly as well as girls in school. Sure that's making the point you think it is? Sounds like we need to go back to that era to me. |
It's more permissive now. In my day the boys had to sit their butt down and work quietly. |
Another dimwit who thinks that because one particular boy (hers) is succeeding, there must not be a problem with the educational system despite abundant evidence it is failing boys writ large. ![]() |
If the boys can't adjust to even reading something that's not their favorite type of book, why should they be doing as well in school? What if they decide history, science, and math are boring too? Do they just get to play action figures then? |
I’m sorry but parsing the emotions of some woman of color after she was allegedly raped just isn’t that interesting |
No, exactly opposite. You made a wrong assumption! Perhaps I didn’t string my argument together coherently….we absolutely do need to fix what’s going on with boys, and we need to make adjustments to public education. I suggest we look to private schools as a model bc they’re doing an excellent job educating boys. Public school classrooms are big, noisy and have no rules. We should give them lots of room to goof off and horse around outside of class, but inside the teachers need to hold them accountable, and create an environment where it’s ok to be smart. Someone upthread suggested school is oriented toward females, with the implication being that if we relax the classroom boys will thrive. Earlier I pointed out the classroom environment has been loosened considerably, but boy performance has only gotten worse. Why are they seemingly not interested? I think for social reasons. Outside of private school environments, there is not social cache to being smart. At my child’s public school the smart boys are almost entirely kids of immigrants! Which is another interesting dynamic |
I am a woman in STEM and volunteer and mentor young women to encourage them to follow my path. I also mentor any young men that want to speak to me - but women seek me out more which totally makes sense. If I were a man, and saw that many boys didn’t do well in school and had some thoughts about why, I would roll up my sleeves and volunteer/find ways to contribute. I am not sure why you are blaming women rather than men who should be stepping forward with ideas. The boy I care most about, my son, is doing great in school. He is not failing. He had to read some truly bozo books (his words) last year. Like “the secret life of bees”. I was unsympathetic - suck it up and get your stuff done. You aren’t going to like everything you are asked to do in life - no time like the present to learn how. No different than what I said to my daughter. I don’t coddle him (and neither does his father). I expect from him what I expect from my daughter. Because of my personal experience with him, I have nothing to contribute to the broader societal issue we are discussing. So I would hope men who see the issue and can provide some mentoring/ideas step up like I did for women in STEM. |
Weren't you going to share your son's reading list? |
+1 |
Book title please! |