Bikes lanes poorly designed - unsafe for drivers and bikers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:C’mon guys. The anti-cyclist “pedestrian” is clearly a troll. Or maybe just forced to walk after losing their license or something, but either way, they are not worth your time.

I was fairly agnostic on this issue, but the sarcasm and insults repeated by this guy has swayed me to the car driver's side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:C’mon guys. The anti-cyclist “pedestrian” is clearly a troll. Or maybe just forced to walk after losing their license or something, but either way, they are not worth your time.

I was fairly agnostic on this issue, but the sarcasm and insults repeated by this guy has swayed me to the car driver's side.

I was fairly agnostic on the issue of people being able to bike safely, but then some rando on the internet said something mean, and now I believe roads are for cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bike in the city, and I support the city's efforts to build more bike lanes.

I have also lived here long enough to believe that the city might have designed a bike lane that is less than perfect.

I have not seen these particular lanes, but if there is a way the design can be improved to make it safer, I would suggest you contact DDOT.

If you just don't want bike lanes and believe that roads are made for cars and trash cans, then I don't think you are on the right side of history.

We’ve had bike lanes for 15 years. The government has spent billions of dollars building up the biking infrastructure. Still, it remains the most unpopular method of transportation in the city and countless miles of bike lanes are rarely if ever used. History will show this was a giant, very expensive, failed experiment…

Very, very expensive. The cost per user is off the charts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bike in the city, and I support the city's efforts to build more bike lanes.

I have also lived here long enough to believe that the city might have designed a bike lane that is less than perfect.

I have not seen these particular lanes, but if there is a way the design can be improved to make it safer, I would suggest you contact DDOT.

If you just don't want bike lanes and believe that roads are made for cars and trash cans, then I don't think you are on the right side of history.

We’ve had bike lanes for 15 years. The government has spent billions of dollars building up the biking infrastructure. Still, it remains the most unpopular method of transportation in the city and countless miles of bike lanes are rarely if ever used. History will show this was a giant, very expensive, failed experiment…

Very, very expensive. The cost per user is off the charts

You have it completely backward. With proper accounting, the cost of road infrastructure per driver is insanely high. Drivers just usually don’t want to know about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe get off you posterior, get a bike, and get on with life. Biking is awesome. There are all kinds of different outfits you can buy. It's like being in a motorcycle gang - but without polluting the environment.

Maybe get off your snippy high horse and recognize that a significant number of people are disabled from using bicycles or bike lanes.

Same for cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bike in the city, and I support the city's efforts to build more bike lanes.

I have also lived here long enough to believe that the city might have designed a bike lane that is less than perfect.

I have not seen these particular lanes, but if there is a way the design can be improved to make it safer, I would suggest you contact DDOT.

If you just don't want bike lanes and believe that roads are made for cars and trash cans, then I don't think you are on the right side of history.

We’ve had bike lanes for 15 years. The government has spent billions of dollars building up the biking infrastructure. Still, it remains the most unpopular method of transportation in the city and countless miles of bike lanes are rarely if ever used. History will show this was a giant, very expensive, failed experiment…

Yes, history will show that we should be more like LA. More roads and more driving until there is no traffic at all. Then we will all be happier. And climate change is a hoax. Yes, yes, very serious people we are.

[Anonymous]

I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

[Anonymous]

Don't you get bored posting this stuff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

How many of those cars honked their horns to make pedestrians scatter out of the crosswalk while they ran the red light? I’m not talking about technical violations that may have resulted from inattention, which, while extremely dangerous, is not the same as wanton and willful lawbreaking. The problem with too many cyclists is that they expect everyone to adjust to their presence regardless of what the law is. That tendency is worse when they’re in protected bike lanes because they don’t have to worry about cars.

If I’m walking in a crosswalk, having already established a lawful presence there, stop for me. It’s the law and it’s also common courtesy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

How many of those cars honked their horns to make pedestrians scatter out of the crosswalk while they ran the red light? I’m not talking about technical violations that may have resulted from inattention, which, while extremely dangerous, is not the same as wanton and willful lawbreaking. The problem with too many cyclists is that they expect everyone to adjust to their presence regardless of what the law is. That tendency is worse when they’re in protected bike lanes because they don’t have to worry about cars.

If I’m walking in a crosswalk, having already established a lawful presence there, stop for me. It’s the law and it’s also common courtesy.

Yes, it is. It's the law. Which is routinely broken by drivers of cars, with or without bike lanes, and when drivers do it, they can seriously injure or kill you. But sure, let's focus on bike lanes.

The more people bike instead of drive, the safer you as a pedestrian will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

How many of those cars honked their horns to make pedestrians scatter out of the crosswalk while they ran the red light? I’m not talking about technical violations that may have resulted from inattention, which, while extremely dangerous, is not the same as wanton and willful lawbreaking. The problem with too many cyclists is that they expect everyone to adjust to their presence regardless of what the law is. That tendency is worse when they’re in protected bike lanes because they don’t have to worry about cars.

If I’m walking in a crosswalk, having already established a lawful presence there, stop for me. It’s the law and it’s also common courtesy.

It must be tough work projecting e-bikes as weapons of mass terror when motor vehicles kill 40,000 people annually in this country, but good on you for trying. There was a hit and run accident - requiring hospitalization - that occurred on the crosswalk outside a DC high school just yesterday, but I guess that doesn’t matter because someone somewhere riding an e-bike did something they shouldn’t have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

How many of those cars honked their horns to make pedestrians scatter out of the crosswalk while they ran the red light? I’m not talking about technical violations that may have resulted from inattention, which, while extremely dangerous, is not the same as wanton and willful lawbreaking. The problem with too many cyclists is that they expect everyone to adjust to their presence regardless of what the law is. That tendency is worse when they’re in protected bike lanes because they don’t have to worry about cars.

If I’m walking in a crosswalk, having already established a lawful presence there, stop for me. It’s the law and it’s also common courtesy.

Yes, it is. It's the law. Which is routinely broken by drivers of cars, with or without bike lanes, and when drivers do it, they can seriously injure or kill you. But sure, let's focus on bike lanes.

The more people bike instead of drive, the safer you as a pedestrian will be.

You never acknowledge that you have any responsibility for the safety of others as a cyclist, so your argument that I'll be safer with more bike lanes falls flat. That's the problem. Too many cyclists fail to take responsibility for anyone else's safety, even that of other cyclists. I'm pretty sure getting hit by a cyclist on an e-bike or regular bike at 20 mph, which is faster than cars usually go at this intersection because of the congestion, would result in some broken ribs at the least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the guy going 20mph on his e-bike in the bike lanes ringing his bell as he ran the red light so the pedestrians had a chance to scatter before he went through the crosswalk. All the cars at the intersection were stopped, by the way.

Wow. I also saw many cars speeding and couple running red lights yesterday. Shall we all chip in with our observations of bad behavior by road users in Washington, DC. What great fun that would be.

How many of those cars honked their horns to make pedestrians scatter out of the crosswalk while they ran the red light? I’m not talking about technical violations that may have resulted from inattention, which, while extremely dangerous, is not the same as wanton and willful lawbreaking. The problem with too many cyclists is that they expect everyone to adjust to their presence regardless of what the law is. That tendency is worse when they’re in protected bike lanes because they don’t have to worry about cars.

If I’m walking in a crosswalk, having already established a lawful presence there, stop for me. It’s the law and it’s also common courtesy.

There's plenty of wanton lawbreaking by drivers and cyclists alike. And I don't really think a dangerous violation of the law is rendered better because it was accidental or the result of inattention, anyway. Why are we only focusing on when people riding bikes break the law? Is the idea supposed to be that because some cyclists flagrantly flout the law, the rest of us don't deserve better infrastructure? If you applied that logic to cars, we wouldn't even have paved roads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe get off you posterior, get a bike, and get on with life. Biking is awesome. There are all kinds of different outfits you can buy. It's like being in a motorcycle gang - but without polluting the environment.

Get out of your bubble and look around. Not everyone can ride a bike and those who can cannot do so for everything. What do you have against disabled and elderly people? Should they live as shut-ins?