Will basis move their waitlist this week or are they done?

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Anonymous wrote:WTAF Walls? 9th graders are the students who were selected based on scores and interviews, and 7 months in, they can't scrounge up better than 29% proficient in math??

This is why there should be an admissions test …

Well you have to understand how the math PARCC works. It only tests Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry. So if a kid came in for 9th grade having completed Algebra II, they might not show up in the test scores at all. What you're seeing in all high school PARCC summaries is basically the lower half of the math students. I agree that math scores in DC generally aren't so hot, but it's not the case that most Walls students are failing math. Many are taking other math classes, so they don't take the PARCC for math. Just one of the many reasons the PARCC is a worthless test.

If your school's test scores are low, attack the test.

Got it.

P.S. Everyone takes the same test in DC.

No they don't take the same test! They take the test for the class that they're in, not the grade that they're in. And if they aren't in one of the classes tested, they don't take the math PARCC at all. PARCC sucks and everyone should feel free to attack it. I'm not a Walls parent btw. I just want people to actually look at the data and try to understand what it measures and what it does not measure.

I am not understanding the excuses in this thread. Every kid at Walls had a 3.8 or higher GPA to get in. Yet a big chunk of these kids can't pass the PARCC test for the math class they are taking in 9th grade? This . . .. does not seem good.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Assuming that you even have kids in a public school, where are they?

Does it matter?

Sure. Where did you send your kids and why?

.

Not gonna tell you. But go ahead and explain BASIS' poor retention of AA students. We're all ears.

Someone pointed out that this question is dumb pages ago. Someone else asked a lot of smart questions about this dumb question, which you ignored. We get it that you hate BASIS. But squawking about Black kids over and over again is a bad look.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Assuming that you even have kids in a public school, where are they?

Does it matter?

Sure. Where did you send your kids and why?

.

Not gonna tell you. But go ahead and explain BASIS' poor retention of AA students. We're all ears.

Someone pointed out that this question is dumb pages ago. Someone else asked a lot of smart questions about this dumb question, which you ignored. We get it that you hate BASIS. But squawking about Black kids over and over again is a bad look.

I did not ignore them, I posted links to the data and discussed how nobody went from BASIS to Banneker in the year shown.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Walls and Banneker don’t have low performing kids either. They aren’t admitted into those schools in the first place.

Right. The 9th grade population at BASIS is shaped by the 5th grade lottery **but also** by BASIS' policy choices that motivate lower performers to leave. 5th grade at BASIS is not even really pure lottery, it's shaped by sibling preference and parent knowledge of BASIS' policies. By the time kids get to 9th, it's a very different group demographically than it was when those kids entered 5th grade.

You make a lot of groundless assumptions. You clearly don't have a kid at BASIS and no nothing about it.

The fact is that kids leave Basis for lots of different reasons, and they don't backfill. They also don't socially promote.

As a result, BASIS has the best test scores of any public school in DC. That is what the data show.

You want to focus on Black students? Fine. Black students at Basis have the highest test scores of any public school in DC as well.

If you don't like it, GTFU and send your kids to your in-bounds school or some failing charter.

Game over, lady. Thanks for playing.

Not backfilling is why Basis is what it is. There really isn’t a good answer as to why they don’t. Except the numbers, of course.

The answer is because it's hard and more work, and would lower their stats. Obviously. Avoiding hard work = "success" and "rigor"!

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Walls and Banneker don’t have low performing kids either. They aren’t admitted into those schools in the first place.

Right. The 9th grade population at BASIS is shaped by the 5th grade lottery **but also** by BASIS' policy choices that motivate lower performers to leave. 5th grade at BASIS is not even really pure lottery, it's shaped by sibling preference and parent knowledge of BASIS' policies. By the time kids get to 9th, it's a very different group demographically than it was when those kids entered 5th grade.

You make a lot of groundless assumptions. You clearly don't have a kid at BASIS and no nothing about it.

The fact is that kids leave Basis for lots of different reasons, and they don't backfill. They also don't socially promote.

As a result, BASIS has the best test scores of any public school in DC. That is what the data show.

You want to focus on Black students? Fine. Black students at Basis have the highest test scores of any public school in DC as well.

If you don't like it, GTFU and send your kids to your in-bounds school or some failing charter.

Game over, lady. Thanks for playing.

Why is BASIS' retention of Black/AA students so low? Does that question anger you? Do you have an answer?

No idea and don’t care. Maybe you should ask the black kids who left if you so desperately need an answer to this question.

Ooh you said the quiet part loud.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Assuming that you even have kids in a public school, where are they?

Does it matter?

Sure. Where did you send your kids and why?

.

Not gonna tell you. But go ahead and explain BASIS' poor retention of AA students. We're all ears.

Someone pointed out that this question is dumb pages ago. Someone else asked a lot of smart questions about this dumb question, which you ignored. We get it that you hate BASIS. But squawking about Black kids over and over again is a bad look.

I did not ignore them, I posted links to the data and discussed how nobody went from BASIS to Banneker in the year shown.

That’s not the poster I’m referring to, and you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Assuming that you even have kids in a public school, where are they?

Does it matter?

Sure. Where did you send your kids and why?

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Not gonna tell you. But go ahead and explain BASIS' poor retention of AA students. We're all ears.

Someone pointed out that this question is dumb pages ago. Someone else asked a lot of smart questions about this dumb question, which you ignored. We get it that you hate BASIS. But squawking about Black kids over and over again is a bad look.

I did not ignore them, I posted links to the data and discussed how nobody went from BASIS to Banneker in the year shown.

That’s not the poster I’m referring to, and you know it.

What do you think of the data though?

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Walls and Banneker don’t have low performing kids either. They aren’t admitted into those schools in the first place.

Right. The 9th grade population at BASIS is shaped by the 5th grade lottery **but also** by BASIS' policy choices that motivate lower performers to leave. 5th grade at BASIS is not even really pure lottery, it's shaped by sibling preference and parent knowledge of BASIS' policies. By the time kids get to 9th, it's a very different group demographically than it was when those kids entered 5th grade.

You make a lot of groundless assumptions. You clearly don't have a kid at BASIS and no nothing about it.

The fact is that kids leave Basis for lots of different reasons, and they don't backfill. They also don't socially promote.

As a result, BASIS has the best test scores of any public school in DC. That is what the data show.

You want to focus on Black students? Fine. Black students at Basis have the highest test scores of any public school in DC as well.

If you don't like it, GTFU and send your kids to your in-bounds school or some failing charter.

Game over, lady. Thanks for playing.

Not backfilling is why Basis is what it is. There really isn’t a good answer as to why they don’t. Except the numbers, of course.

There is a good answer, and it has been explained numerous times in these Basis threads. They don't backfill, because they aren't allowed by DC laws to give placement tests. They don't want to set kids up for failure, which is what would happen if they admitted kids who weren't going to be able to pass the comps for their grade level. All of the Arizona Basis schools backfill, because they're allowed to give placement tests.

I would hope that you agree that in a school that doesn't socially promote, it would be a bad idea to set kids up for failure. I feel sorry for the kids who would pass any placement tests and do fine in upper grades in Basis, but aren't given the chance due to DC laws. If you're so passionate about backfilling, perhaps you should lobby the DC politicians to change the laws and allow placement tests to be administered for upper grades.

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Anonymous wrote:WTAF Walls? 9th graders are the students who were selected based on scores and interviews, and 7 months in, they can't scrounge up better than 29% proficient in math??

This is why there should be an admissions test …

Well you have to understand how the math PARCC works. It only tests Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry. So if a kid came in for 9th grade having completed Algebra II, they might not show up in the test scores at all. What you're seeing in all high school PARCC summaries is basically the lower half of the math students. I agree that math scores in DC generally aren't so hot, but it's not the case that most Walls students are failing math. Many are taking other math classes, so they don't take the PARCC for math. Just one of the many reasons the PARCC is a worthless test.

If your school's test scores are low, attack the test.

Got it.

P.S. Everyone takes the same test in DC.

No they don't take the same test! They take the test for the class that they're in, not the grade that they're in. And if they aren't in one of the classes tested, they don't take the math PARCC at all. PARCC sucks and everyone should feel free to attack it. I'm not a Walls parent btw. I just want people to actually look at the data and try to understand what it measures and what it does not measure.

I am not understanding the excuses in this thread. Every kid at Walls had a 3.8 or higher GPA to get in. Yet a big chunk of these kids can't pass the PARCC test for the math class they are taking in 9th grade? This . . .. does not seem good.

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Maybe this demonstrates that the Lord if The Flies method of peer interviews doesn't produce enrollment in alignment with the school's claims.

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Can we come back to the question- if all 150 kids didn't show today, will BASIS move their 5th grade list, or is it game over?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we come back to the question- if all 150 kids didn't show today, will BASIS move their 5th grade list, or is it game over?

I don’t know if anyone who got in after school started last year …

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Again, there’s only 135 total 5th graders. The school only offered 150 seats for 5th grade knowing that not everyone would accept and that they would have the class figured out sooner without going as far into the waitlist later into the summer. And I agree that the school does not fill seats after the first day of school. We heard of a family who left the first week of 5th grade last year and the school did not fill that seat.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Walls and Banneker don’t have low performing kids either. They aren’t admitted into those schools in the first place.

Right. The 9th grade population at BASIS is shaped by the 5th grade lottery **but also** by BASIS' policy choices that motivate lower performers to leave. 5th grade at BASIS is not even really pure lottery, it's shaped by sibling preference and parent knowledge of BASIS' policies. By the time kids get to 9th, it's a very different group demographically than it was when those kids entered 5th grade.

You make a lot of groundless assumptions. You clearly don't have a kid at BASIS and no nothing about it.

The fact is that kids leave Basis for lots of different reasons, and they don't backfill. They also don't socially promote.

As a result, BASIS has the best test scores of any public school in DC. That is what the data show.

You want to focus on Black students? Fine. Black students at Basis have the highest test scores of any public school in DC as well.

If you don't like it, GTFU and send your kids to your in-bounds school or some failing charter.

Game over, lady. Thanks for playing.

Not backfilling is why Basis is what it is. There really isn’t a good answer as to why they don’t. Except the numbers, of course.

There is a good answer, and it has been explained numerous times in these Basis threads. They don't backfill, because they aren't allowed by DC laws to give placement tests. They don't want to set kids up for failure, which is what would happen if they admitted kids who weren't going to be able to pass the comps for their grade level. All of the Arizona Basis schools backfill, because they're allowed to give placement tests.

I would hope that you agree that in a school that doesn't socially promote, it would be a bad idea to set kids up for failure. I feel sorry for the kids who would pass any placement tests and do fine in upper grades in Basis, but aren't given the chance due to DC laws. If you're so passionate about backfilling, perhaps you should lobby the DC politicians to change the laws and allow placement tests to be administered for upper grades.

Ah yes, because the anti-promotion policy is an immutable fact over which BASIS has no control whatsoever.

It's amazing the excuses people will accept.

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Anonymous wrote:WTAF Walls? 9th graders are the students who were selected based on scores and interviews, and 7 months in, they can't scrounge up better than 29% proficient in math??

This is why there should be an admissions test …

Well you have to understand how the math PARCC works. It only tests Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry. So if a kid came in for 9th grade having completed Algebra II, they might not show up in the test scores at all. What you're seeing in all high school PARCC summaries is basically the lower half of the math students. I agree that math scores in DC generally aren't so hot, but it's not the case that most Walls students are failing math. Many are taking other math classes, so they don't take the PARCC for math. Just one of the many reasons the PARCC is a worthless test.

If your school's test scores are low, attack the test.

Got it.

P.S. Everyone takes the same test in DC.

No they don't take the same test! They take the test for the class that they're in, not the grade that they're in. And if they aren't in one of the classes tested, they don't take the math PARCC at all. PARCC sucks and everyone should feel free to attack it. I'm not a Walls parent btw. I just want people to actually look at the data and try to understand what it measures and what it does not measure.

I am not understanding the excuses in this thread. Every kid at Walls had a 3.8 or higher GPA to get in. Yet a big chunk of these kids can't pass the PARCC test for the math class they are taking in 9th grade? This . . .. does not seem good.

Who is taking the math PARCC in 9th grade at Walls anyway? Haven't most students going to Walls completed Algebra I, II and Geometry before then?

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Anonymous wrote:They don't let in anyone after 5th grade. Even siblings

Per the head of school last year, they will offer seats in older grades if and only if the total number of students not returning (seniors plus attrition) exceeds something like 135 students.

I didn’t realize they offer any seats. Isn’t their position the curriculum is so advanced that they can’t backfill seats?

It's that their teachers aren't up to the challenge. Because it's soooo haaaaaard to do what most schools in this country do routinely.

At this point the BASIS Haterade club can't even figure out what they are mad at. Why do you care if BASIS adds 6th 7th 8th or no graders above 5th? This isn't about your kid not getting a slot because you seem angry at BASIS so obviously you wouldn't take it if offered. So what's your deal? Is it jealousy? You and yours spend a LOT of time on DCUM trying to convince parents who are at BASIS that what they know and think about the school doesn't matter. Based on the WL data, BASIS is getting harder to get into over time, not easier, so other than howling at the moon, what's in it for you? Why do you spend more time thinking and caring about BASIS than those who have kids there?

Because I call out BS when I see it. BASIS doesn't backfill because it's hard and they don't want to. That's the real reason. Plenty of schools across the country do it just fine, but not BASIS.

You didn't answer the question. Why are you so invested here? Why do you care where they get their 650 seats from? This angers you why?

Because I think letting one school shirk the harder stuff is bad for the system as a whole, and I think parents should know that BASIS' so-called "success" is founded on taking the easy path when they can get away with it.

Parents whose kids are at the school sent them there to be challenged and get them the heck away from virtue signalers like you who care more about the press release and faux "equity" than a quality education. No on at BASIS or Latin sits around and laments the lack of socially promoted, grade levels behind, disruptive kids in their classes. Give it a break.

I just don't think serving the easiest kids is a mark of quality, but you do you.

You are totally right. BASIS is a terrible school that doesn't provide rigor. Everyone who is there and happy just doesn't understand the school as well as you do. Good point. Thank the lord you are on the case.

I understand that people choose BASIS anyway. And I don't think it's a terrible school. But I do think its stats are not especially impressive in the context of its low at-risk percentage, high-SES student body, and shirking service of students with special needs and new arrivals. It's not that great, but has certain demographic manipulation policies that make it look better compared to schools that are serving different kids. That's not the same thing as quality or good teaching.

But hey why don't you go ahead and explain why the math PARCC scores are so low. And why re-enrollment of African-American students is only 77%. We're all ears.

Best scores in city at non-test in school. You would prefer...higher?

Yes, given that it is a high-SES school with very few at-risk kids and is constantly patting itself on the back for "rigor". BASIS' push-out policy (which you will deny exists) makes it functionally a test-in school after 5th grade, and a high-income one at that.

Why don't you tell us again why so many kids at BASIS do poorly on the math PARCC.

Are you lying or just misinformed?

Here are 9th grade math proficiency scores after kids have been at Basis (a 100% lottery school) for a few years. They are the highest in DC--even higher than selective schools such as Walls and Banneker. that cherry pick their students.

Basis: 77.36
Banneker: 66.56
Walls: 55.4
Latin: 30.11
DCI: 21.37

Wow, those are great numbers for Basis.

These numbers also carry across for African-Americans as well (after kids have been at Basis for a few years). Basis beats every public school in DC for African-American scores including schools such as Walls and Banneker that get to select their student body. In contrast, Basis is 100% lottery.

Basis is obviously a great choice for any academically motivated student.

Walls not so much, at least for math. And Latin and DCI definitely not so much.

9th grade PARCC proficiency (Black/African-American only):

Basis

ELA >=90%
Math 61.54

Banneker

ELA 86.41
Math 54.37

Walls

ELA 84.21
Math 29.41

Latin

ELA 43.59
Math 5.13

DCI

ELA 42.19
Math 15.38

Hon. Seriously. "After they've been at BASIS for a while"? No. After the lower-performing students have left. Be real.

Walls and Banneker don’t have low performing kids either. They aren’t admitted into those schools in the first place.

Right. The 9th grade population at BASIS is shaped by the 5th grade lottery **but also** by BASIS' policy choices that motivate lower performers to leave. 5th grade at BASIS is not even really pure lottery, it's shaped by sibling preference and parent knowledge of BASIS' policies. By the time kids get to 9th, it's a very different group demographically than it was when those kids entered 5th grade.

You make a lot of groundless assumptions. You clearly don't have a kid at BASIS and no nothing about it.

The fact is that kids leave Basis for lots of different reasons, and they don't backfill. They also don't socially promote.

As a result, BASIS has the best test scores of any public school in DC. That is what the data show.

You want to focus on Black students? Fine. Black students at Basis have the highest test scores of any public school in DC as well.

If you don't like it, GTFU and send your kids to your in-bounds school or some failing charter.

Game over, lady. Thanks for playing.

Not backfilling is why Basis is what it is. There really isn’t a good answer as to why they don’t. Except the numbers, of course.

There is a good answer, and it has been explained numerous times in these Basis threads. They don't backfill, because they aren't allowed by DC laws to give placement tests. They don't want to set kids up for failure, which is what would happen if they admitted kids who weren't going to be able to pass the comps for their grade level. All of the Arizona Basis schools backfill, because they're allowed to give placement tests.

I would hope that you agree that in a school that doesn't socially promote, it would be a bad idea to set kids up for failure. I feel sorry for the kids who would pass any placement tests and do fine in upper grades in Basis, but aren't given the chance due to DC laws. If you're so passionate about backfilling, perhaps you should lobby the DC politicians to change the laws and allow placement tests to be administered for upper grades.

Ah yes, because the anti-promotion policy is an immutable fact over which BASIS has no control whatsoever.

It's amazing the excuses people will accept.

The anti-promotion policy is an immutable fact when you're delivering a rigorous education. If a kid failed 6th grade, but you push that kid into 7th, then the kid will be set up for failure again. Or, they'll cause the class to be watered down, so the other kids can't receive a rigorous education.

There are tons of options for parents who want social promotion and a non-rigorous education. There are very few for advanced kids who need more. Why are you determined to restrict people's school choice by turning Basis into a clone of all of the other DC schools?