I don’t like that attending the Eras Tour has become an elitist activity

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

I totally forgot about the Ryan Adams album! What a huge compliment to her as an artist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are acting so entitled over this. We lucked out and got a code the first time around and then lucked out again and purchased tickets. After paying normal concert prices, we drove there and drove home. I paid for an overpriced pizza of pizza at the stadium. I don’t know anyone who paid thousands for resale.

Weren’t you ever a kid and disappointed because you didn’t get tickets to the sold out concert? This isn’t any different except people think it’s their right to go. -Gen X mom

+1 how dare Taylor not perform until she dies so every person who wants to go can go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

I totally forgot about the Ryan Adams album! What a huge compliment to her as an artist.

Is it? As a person, he doesn’t seem too great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With tickets being impossible to purchase the only way one can attend the concert is buy paying the exorbitant resale prices and/or flying to another location.

A trip that will cost about $5k or more.

This is ridiculous

I mean, no one really cares what you like or don’t like. Your thoughts on this are neither valid nor notable. So.

[Anonymous]

Why are some elites so defensive when you point it out to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

[Verse 1]
How's one to know?
I'd meet you where the spirit meets the bones
In a faith-forgotten land
In from the snow
Your touch brought forth an incandescent glow
Tarnished but so grand

[Pre-Chorus]
And the old widow goes to the stone every day
But I don't, I just sit here and wait
Grieving for the living

[Chorus]
Oh, goddamn
My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand
Taking mine, but it's been promised to another
Oh, I can't
Stop you putting roots in my dreamland
My house of stone, your ivy grows
And now I'm covered in you

[Verse 2]
I wish to know
The fatal flaw that makes you long to be
Magnificently cursed
He's in the room
Your opal eyes are all I wish to see
He wants what's only yours


[Verse 3]
Clover blooms in the fields
Spring breaks loose, the time is near
What would he do if he found us out?
Crescent moon, coast is clear
Spring breaks loose, but so does fear
He's gonna burn this house to the ground
How's one to know?
I'd live and die for moments that we stole
On begged and borrowed time
So tell me to run
Or dare to sit and watch what we'll become
And drink my husband's wine

What is this song?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand the need to pay those prices to then have to watch the broadcasted screen to even see the show from your way-up-there seats. Add in the traffic, long lines and being around fanatical people, no thank you.

This, the bold! It's not a concert experience at all, other than maybe--maybe-- feeling the vibe of being in a huge crowd sharing the same space and focused in the same direction. Otherwise? It's sitting in an arena to watch gigantic TV screens while occasionally glancing at minuscule figures on a faraway stage. If you pay the vast amounts to have a seat with an actual view maybe it's worth it to you but otherwise, it's glorified, group TV-watching. Not just Swift's shows. This applies to all the huge arena shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With tickets being impossible to purchase the only way one can attend the concert is buy paying the exorbitant resale prices and/or flying to another location.

A trip that will cost about $5k or more.

This is ridiculous

I mean, no one really cares what you like or don’t like. Your thoughts on this are neither valid nor notable. So.

Yet you took time to respond to something you insist is not valid or notable....So you seem to care about not caring about OP's opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I miss the days when this crap was done by U2 (pop mart) and they made fun of the consumerist nature of it all. Now everyone completely buys in like little lemmings.

I’ll add that of course Taylor is in so many many ways better than u2 and no one will ever understand “unless you were there” but at least U2 understood the irony of how what they did was pure show biz and how consumerism was destroying the world at the same time.
You never get that with Taylor the understand that consumerism has a negative effect on the world.

U2's lyrical content was never adolescent as is most of TS teeny bobber stuff either.
I get that the moms have fun watching their daughters have fun.
But at this crazy price point?
Ridiculous.

I guarantee you’ve never listen to the majority of her music that’s not on radio play. Hardly teenybopper lyrics. I do not consider myself a Swifty, but I am a middle-aged woman who started looking more into her music more when my kids started to really liked her. You should see all the TikTok and Instagram videos of people from all sorts of life, even famous rappers, being like damn that woman can write. If you’re judging her by, shake it off or love story, you don’t understand what Taylor Swift is about.

Specifically, what lyrics or song can you point to?

Not just songs, but albums. They are also better understood when you know their context.

Folklore
Evermore
Reputation
1989 - Ryan Adams covered this album and this is what made me think differently about her writing and held a mirror to how I dismissed her bc she is a young blonde girl. (I am an older blonde girl.)

I totally forgot about the Ryan Adams album! What a huge compliment to her as an artist.

Is it? As a person, he doesn’t seem too great.

It was at the time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People make different choices with their money.

I have good friends who make about the same amount as my husband and I. They have two kids, live in a small townhouse, went to Taylor swift and several other concerts and experiences, just went on vacation to Europe, and have told their kids that they shouldn’t expect any help for college so to consider community college for the first two years then transferring. We have three kids, live in a single family home, and will have saved enough to pay outright for in state tuition for all three kids, but took a driving vacation, and don’t do any concerts (the last concert I attended was the 4th grade strings concert at our kids elementary school). Good people make different spending decisions.

Your poor kids. You’ve giving them amazing experiences, but not setting them up to give the same to their kids. I know an adult who was raised like this. She struggles with finances because she feels entitled to amazing experiences but is crushed with college debt. Regular life sends dull after the Bill things she did as as ten, but she can’t even afford regular life because of all the college loans. This is a really terrible parenting strategy. Please carefully consider the implications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People make different choices with their money.

I have good friends who make about the same amount as my husband and I. They have two kids, live in a small townhouse, went to Taylor swift and several other concerts and experiences, just went on vacation to Europe, and have told their kids that they shouldn’t expect any help for college so to consider community college for the first two years then transferring. We have three kids, live in a single family home, and will have saved enough to pay outright for in state tuition for all three kids, but took a driving vacation, and don’t do any concerts (the last concert I attended was the 4th grade strings concert at our kids elementary school). Good people make different spending decisions.

Your poor kids. You’ve giving them amazing experiences, but not setting them up to give the same to their kids. I know an adult who was raised like this. She struggles with finances because she feels entitled to amazing experiences but is crushed with college debt. Regular life sends dull after the Bill things she did as as ten, but she can’t even afford regular life because of all the college loans. This is a really terrible parenting strategy. Please carefully consider the implications.

Oops. Missed this part. I still feel bad for those kids.

[Anonymous]

We were able to purchase tix thru Ticketmaster for the Philly show. Ended up with the VIP package unwittingly, but it was worth every penny ($800, I think) to get early entry, the fun box of posters and other stuff my 13YO adores, and the experience of taking her to her first concert as a huge TS fan.

We aren’t splurge-y type of people usually, but this was one of those lifetime moments we are glad we did.

[Anonymous]

People make different choices with their money.

I have good friends who make about the same amount as my husband and I. They have two kids, live in a small townhouse, went to Taylor swift and several other concerts and experiences, just went on vacation to Europe, and have told their kids that they shouldn’t expect any help for college so to consider community college for the first two years then transferring. We have three kids, live in a single family home, and will have saved enough to pay outright for in state tuition for all three kids, but took a driving vacation, and don’t do any concerts (the last concert I attended was the 4th grade strings concert at our kids elementary school). Good people make different spending decisions.

(Post above is from earlier in the thread)

You call these "good people" who simply made "different spending decisions"? I call them idiot parents who are going to discover eventually that their children resent the hell out them for splurging on concert tickets and big vacations then having the gall to lumber the kids with either college debt or degrees that aren't that great quality. (And yes, I know all about the CC-to-Name College route, but it's not applicable everywhere for every kind of degree.)

When their kids hit their mid-20s and realize they're saddled for years with debt, when their parents could have made some different choices, the resentment will come home to roost.

I wonder if this couple does any saving for their own retirement or if they'll find out one day that they need the kids to help support them as they age....

Well, at least they can say they saw Taylor Swift back in the day!

[Anonymous]

I'm many, many cities, ticket holder hopefuls have gone to the counter where they're supposed to confirm that they have tickets, and when handing the employee their folded up printed out copy of confirmation, they've placed money on the inside instead and instead of a confirmation number, they'll have written a note saying that they don't have tickets (probably with some sort of sob story too) and they're hoping that the employee can help them out... and it's WORKED!

The average amount that people are sharing that they put in was between $100 - $300, which then gets them in to the venue somehow (admittedly, I'm not exactly sure what it is as I kind of skimmed through all of the posts, but I think someone mentioned that it was some kind of admission bracelet or something that confirms that they DO indeed have tickets, without having to actually SHOW their tickets to security, as that would cause a major backlog of people trying to get in).

This admission only gets them into the venue and passed the first layer of security at the main entrance to the concert area, but then you're on your own in trying to find a place to stand/sit.

Some people have reported that certain venues have open standing areas near the floor seats and toward the back of the room (by the door) for those who've become too overwhelmed by the big crowds -- others have reported having to move multiple times as people have shown up to claim their seats. I haven't read anyone say they've gotten kicked out though, and I read through at least 100 posts saying it's worked and posting pics of them in the seats / standing area, and their view of TS.

Nobody has reported that anyone has gotten arrested for doing this, a handful of people reported thad the employee just slipped them back the paper and $$ saying they couldn't do it, but nothing happened to the person for trying.

Some of the people have gotten such incredible seats, its amazing.

I guess it all comes down to how much a fan really wants to see the show, and if they're willing to go for it (I think a lot has to do with choosing the right employee to try this with too... usually you can get a feel of whose line to get on).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To me it just shows how mediocre the current music scene is that people are willing to pay so much fir a Taylor Swift concert.

Truly depressing!

lol proud to say I cannot name a single song.