I don’t like that attending the Eras Tour has become an elitist activity

[Anonymous]

People want what they (and others) can’t have. Whether an elite school, D1 athlete or hard to get tickets, if you score something, you can brag about it to everyone. Makes you feel special and better. Like a crappy $5 Starbucks coffee when the $1 coffee at McDonald’s is sooo much better! My daughters friend went with her mom. The mom said it was no way worth the trouble and expense but you can’t admit that now, can ya?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are some elites so defensive when you point it out to them?

I am not a Swifty and would not pay this much (and sacrifice my very valuable time) to travel to see anyone's good show. But I don't see why it is wrong for rich people to do this if they are huge Swift fans. Isn't that what rich people do with their money? Spend it on things that signal they are wealthy? If you are a huge Swift fan and can't afford to do this activity, how does it stop you from enjoying her music? It's not healthy to take it personally. And seriously, most people in the world will just shrug and say "that's nice, hope you had a great time" if you tell them you got to see a show on the Eras tour.

[Anonymous]

90% of people did not spend a ton on this show. They just got lucky in the Ticketmaster sale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People want what they (and others) can’t have. Whether an elite school, D1 athlete or hard to get tickets, if you score something, you can brag about it to everyone. Makes you feel special and better. Like a crappy $5 Starbucks coffee when the $1 coffee at McDonald’s is sooo much better! My daughters friend went with her mom. The mom said it was no way worth the trouble and expense but you can’t admit that now, can ya?

It's true for many, many parents who splurged on this to make their kids happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:90% of people did not spend a ton on this show. They just got lucky in the Ticketmaster sale.

Exactly. I paid just a little over $100 per ticket. Very affordable. Not the best seats, but who cares? I’m happy not to waste money. And trust me, it was a great show, but it is a GIANT WASTE of money to spend thousands+ on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People make different choices with their money.

I have good friends who make about the same amount as my husband and I. They have two kids, live in a small townhouse, went to Taylor swift and several other concerts and experiences, just went on vacation to Europe, and have told their kids that they shouldn’t expect any help for college so to consider community college for the first two years then transferring. We have three kids, live in a single family home, and will have saved enough to pay outright for in state tuition for all three kids, but took a driving vacation, and don’t do any concerts (the last concert I attended was the 4th grade strings concert at our kids elementary school). Good people make different spending decisions.

(Post above is from earlier in the thread)

You call these "good people" who simply made "different spending decisions"? I call them idiot parents who are going to discover eventually that their children resent the hell out them for splurging on concert tickets and big vacations then having the gall to lumber the kids with either college debt or degrees that aren't that great quality. (And yes, I know all about the CC-to-Name College route, but it's not applicable everywhere for every kind of degree.)

When their kids hit their mid-20s and realize they're saddled for years with debt, when their parents could have made some different choices, the resentment will come home to roost.

I wonder if this couple does any saving for their own retirement or if they'll find out one day that they need the kids to help support them as they age....

Well, at least they can say they saw Taylor Swift back in the day!

I'm a different poster than the one you're replying to -- speaking from my own personal experience (and I had a similar childhood as you're describing, and I remember all of the amazing times I had with my parents & siblings).
Going on vacation and seeing all kinds of Broadway shows & concerts was well worth it to me -- because that's all I really remember, the wonderful times.

I had academic scholarships, but I also applied for about 200 scholarships that go unused every year.
My guidance counselor had a huge book of them, and now there are websites that list THOUSANDS of them and they're super easy to attain, because so many kids don't even know they exist, so they don't know to apply for them.
Some scholarships were for only like $500, but some were for $5,000.
I applied for a many as I physically could, and that's how I covered what I didn't receive in scholarships.
I worked every break throughout high school & college and saved that money, and my parents covered anything that wasn't covered by scholarships.

Any debt that I would have been "saddled" with, I know I could always make and remake in my career... but I can never earn or buy those wonderful memories with my parents and siblings, and now that my parents are gone, it makes those memories even more special.

Grandpa George from Charlie & the Chocolate Factory said it best.
(setting the scene)
Charlie has just returned home with the golden ticket and tells his extremely impoverished family that someone offered him a lot of money to buy it from him... and Charlie thinks it's the right thing to do.

Grandpa George : You, come here. Now look, there's plenty of money out there. They print more every day -- but this ticket, there's only five of them in the whole world, and that's all there's ever going to be. Only a dummy would give this ticket up for something as common as money... are you a dummy?

Charlie Bucket : No, sir.

Grandpa George : Then get that mud off your pants! You've got a factory to go to!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People want what they (and others) can’t have. Whether an elite school, D1 athlete or hard to get tickets, if you score something, you can brag about it to everyone. Makes you feel special and better. Like a crappy $5 Starbucks coffee when the $1 coffee at McDonald’s is sooo much better! My daughters friend went with her mom. The mom said it was no way worth the trouble and expense but you can’t admit that now, can ya?

What are you, 12?
Who writes like this?
Per your own words, the mom DID admit it just that, so what exactly are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP

I'm old, but I think the lyrics for Anti-Hero are great.

That is a co-written song (Jack Antonoff) who is involved with co- writing a lot of her material, but ok.

You sound so bitter and miserable, and I don't even enjoy Taylor Swift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

So the answer is no I can’t just dislike her without someone making a dig. Gotcha.
Well you are proving OPs elitist theory correct!

They're not wrong about you, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To me it just shows how mediocre the current music scene is that people are willing to pay so much fir a Taylor Swift concert.

Truly depressing!

Exactly. Terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me it just shows how mediocre the current music scene is that people are willing to pay so much fir a Taylor Swift concert.

Truly depressing!

Exactly. Terrible.

Beethoven or bust, right PPs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP

I'm old, but I think the lyrics for Anti-Hero are great.

That is a co-written song (Jack Antonoff) who is involved with co- writing a lot of her material, but ok.

You sound so bitter and miserable, and I don't even enjoy Taylor Swift.

And you sound like an idiot when provided facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine spending my time posting on a thread about an artist I don’t like or don’t respect. What an odd way to spend one’s time!

So the answer is no I can’t just dislike her without someone making a dig. Gotcha.
Well you are proving OPs elitist theory correct!

They're not wrong about you, though.

There is plenty wrong with me just as there is plenty wrong with you. The difference is I wasn’t belittling anyone on this thread.

I wrote a post about why I disliked her lyrics and songs.

Elite groups are created through a culture of oneness and that means putting down and belittling anyone who disagrees. Those two posters and you are doing just that.


2+2=5
Taylor is the bestest ever alive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me it just shows how mediocre the current music scene is that people are willing to pay so much fir a Taylor Swift concert.

Truly depressing!

lol proud to say I cannot name a single song.

weird thing to be proud about, but go off

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are some elites so defensive when you point it out to them?

I am not a Swifty and would not pay this much (and sacrifice my very valuable time) to travel to see anyone's good show. But I don't see why it is wrong for rich people to do this if they are huge Swift fans. Isn't that what rich people do with their money? Spend it on things that signal they are wealthy? If you are a huge Swift fan and can't afford to do this activity, how does it stop you from enjoying her music? It's not healthy to take it personally. And seriously, most people in the world will just shrug and say "that's nice, hope you had a great time" if you tell them you got to see a show on the Eras tour.

Not OP, but I think the bold above is the problem many on this thread have with this whole scenario. It's galling to some to see people who are not "huge Swift fans" going to these shows (same would apply to Beyonce shows, IMHO) just because they're What Rich People Are Doing Right Now, not because they care about the music or the artist much. Of course no one gets to gatekeep what entertainment others can go see so it is what it is -- but it's annoying.