The reason people don’t realize this is that some of the smartest, richest, and most influential institutions in the country work very hard to convince everyone that the elite universities represent “the best of the best.” If these universities openly said “we are playgrounds for the super rich, a few others will be admitted by lottery” they would be far less coveted. |
Lax is a rich kid sport. Youth lacrosse is built on a pay-to-play model and clubs are often all about the $$ since they don't have much outside support like many do in basketball and soccer. I see what you were thinking though. You were mostly tying expense to equipment costs, which just isn't right. You also have to remember that large portions of some teams are not American. The group that is arguably discriminated against more than any other is the non-full-pay international applicants. Even many elite schools are not need blind in their review. |
Hate to break it to you, but soccer is also very much a rich person sport. It is the original 'pay-to-play' model of youth sports in the US. The top teams---parents are paying close to $5k/year flat fee ---not including all the traveling--extensive traveling, fees for charter buses or flights, hotel rooms, etc. Then, most kids at this level are also paying for outside training. It is a ton of $. |
You think a kid can be a D1 lacrosse (or soccer, for that matter) recruit without having played club & attended camps? |
The people making 175k are 100% full pay. Private universities like in this article are approaching $90k PER YEAR. $360K FOR AN UNDERGRAD degree--more than a house in most areas of the US. People making $65-75k will be able to attend need-blind schools FREE. Ivies will be free. If you live in North Carolina and some other states--in state tuition is completely free. Anyone making under $150k in NC no longer has to pay a single dime for tuition in NC. |
s0 YEAH--the families busting @ss in high cost living areas making $160k are rightly pissed they are paying $360k for a 4-year BS/BA degree when over 52% of the kids in their child's class are paying $0. |
And is a nutshell this is why the 1% are over-represented compared to the 60-90%. |
^those kids--no matter how high their GPA is or their test scores have to go in-state due to cost. Their parents won't justify private tuition over in-state. |
So move to NC and drop your salary below that level if you think that's the right approach. You too would not have to pay a dime for tuition. I know what universities cost---got a full pay at a $85K school currently. Kid wouldn't be there if we were not able to fully save for it. There are plenty of options that cost much less than $90K/year for college. My kid could have attended our state flagship for $12K tuition per year (T60 school--kid was admitted with $4K scholarship) or 2-3 other state schools for only $6K tuition. There are many excellent and affordable choices. Just like if I cannot afford a BMW I don't buy one, kids do not need an expensive college education to do well in life. If you can afford it great, but if not, then find what is affordable. |
^ and the entire premise of the article zipped right over your head.
It was about making it so not just the rich could attend these elite institutions. But, you just are confirming that point. |
My kid plays lacrosse. I know for a fact that it’s not a rich kid sport. Club lacrosse is not out of reach for ordinary people. Try again! |
You don’t need to be in the top 1% to afford it, or even the top 10%. |
I think you are suggesting that the NYT graph reflects students choosing to apply to different schools or attend different schools based on cost. But that isn’t what the NYT analysis finds. It finds that among those who applied, the odds of being admitted are very different based on income percentile, after controlling for SAT scores, academic achievements, and application rates. This is purely about the decisions schools make, not decisions students are making about where to apply or attend. |
My HHI is right at that lowest dot— around 93%. So inspiring for my rising senior! |
It’s why if your kid is waitlisted at certain schools - and you are not full pay - your kid won’t be taken of the WL ever (e.g, wake forest)…. |