Suing for ice on sidewalk

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Anonymous wrote:Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. But go ahead and try, and I hope the property owner counter-sues you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma.

In total agreement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP still has not explained why they could not get STD. Are there some things that qualify or do not as reasons? I assumed it needed a doctor note that you can't work and then you have STD paid out at whatever the rate is.

For STD to pay out you usually need to be out for a certain amount of time.

[Anonymous]

I have two million liability on my house. Why would I care if someone sues that why I had insurance.

My friend got sued by his own girlfriend for one million. She won near his policy cap. They later got married.

She literally broke her back in a car accident he was driving in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two million liability on my house. Why would I care if someone sues that why I had insurance.

My friend got sued by his own girlfriend for one million. She won near his policy cap. They later got married.

She literally broke her back in a car accident he was driving in.

You would care because a claim, particularly one where you are at fault, makes it very difficult to get insurance. And since insurance is a requirement for a mortgage, you’d be in default if you got dropped by your carrier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have two million liability on my house. Why would I care if someone sues that why I had insurance.

My friend got sued by his own girlfriend for one million. She won near his policy cap. They later got married.

She literally broke her back in a car accident he was driving in.

You would care because a claim, particularly one where you are at fault, makes it very difficult to get insurance. And since insurance is a requirement for a mortgage, you’d be in default if you got dropped by your carrier.

You'd still be able to get insurance, it'd just be more expensive. Your mortgage will be OK.

Just buy some salt and be a good citizen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. But go ahead and try, and I hope the property owner counter-sues you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma.

You've been watching too much Judge Steve Harvey. You can't get anything in "attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma" just because you're upset that someone sued you.

[Anonymous]

I'm all for suing homeowners who do nothing about snow/ice even when they're required by law to clear it within 24 hours (like in Arlington). But if the sidewalk was otherwise clear, suing over an isolated patch of black ice is difficult unless they negligently caused it (e.g. by washing their car in their driveway in freezing weather).

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Anonymous wrote:Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. But go ahead and try, and I hope the property owner counter-sues you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma.

You've been watching too much Judge Steve Harvey. You can't get anything in "attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma" just because you're upset that someone sued you.

Who? I don't watch TV judge shows, I also don't watch any daytime TV. So again, go ahead and sue OP. I hope they counter sue you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma. You deserve it.

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Anonymous wrote:I slipped on an icy sidewalk outside someone's house (isolated black ice on an otherwise cleared ground), fell and broke my arm, was disabled for 8 weeks, could not work and was no covered by STD. Turns out that the property owner is responsible for the sidewalk where I was. I'm not the litigious type, but do I actually have a case? Would you sue for this?

Absolutely not. Do you want to ruin some family’s life because you slipped? What if they were on vacation? I’m sorry oh slipped but walk slower next time.

You sound like an irresponsible homeowner. This is absolutely the owner's fault and it is reasonable to sue given the extent of her injuries.

OP and I have no interest in ruining someone's life. My understanding is this would be covered by homeowners and/or umbrella insurance.

You are greedy. Hope you don’t get a dime and have to reimburse their legal fees.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for suing homeowners who do nothing about snow/ice even when they're required by law to clear it within 24 hours (like in Arlington). But if the sidewalk was otherwise clear, suing over an isolated patch of black ice is difficult unless they negligently caused it (e.g. by washing their car in their driveway in freezing weather).

OP doesn’t even have proof of where the ice was so she doesn’t know which homeowner to sue, much less if it was caused by negligence. All she has is a group picture somewhere in the vicinity of where she fell that does not show any ice.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have proof of where you fell?

This. Also, I thought people are responsible for removing snow, so it’s “walkable”, which it seems they did. Not sure residents are also responsible for black ice.

It so happens I do, bc we took a photos right before and I was with other people, so there were multiple witnesses.

You took photos right before you fell on a random patch of ice outside someone’s house? Interesting. How do you know this homeowner?

I do not know the homeowner. The photos (of the people I was with in front of the property) were for an unrelated purpose.

Why were you hanging out on their property?

I wasn't. I walked down a public sidewalk that passed their house. Turns out, they are responsible for the sidewalk.

But you took a picture that includes the ice before you fell on it?

This is very fishy. OP “just happened” to take pictures of the area with the black ice right before they fell and sustained injuries that compelled a lawsuit against the homeowner?

Agree with the “reasonable care” poster. If the walk was shoveled, the homeowners shouldn’t be liable because there was thawing and re-freezing. A homeowner isn’t required to stand out front of their house 24 hours a day with a jar of ice melt.

If you took a picture that showed the sidewalk was icy and then you walked across it then that is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. But go ahead and try, and I hope the property owner counter-sues you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma.

You've been watching too much Judge Steve Harvey. You can't get anything in "attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma" just because you're upset that someone sued you.

Who? I don't watch TV judge shows, I also don't watch any daytime TV. So again, go ahead and sue OP. I hope they counter sue you for attorney's fees, time lost from work, and emotional trauma. You deserve it.

How stupid are you? You can't countersue just because you're angry. That's sanctionable misconduct. In the US, each party pays their own attorneys fees unless there is a fee shifting statute. There's no fee shifting for common law torts. And there's certainly no such thing as suing for "time lost from work" because you're the party to a lawsuit. That's one of the dumbest things I've read this week.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have proof of where you fell?

This. Also, I thought people are responsible for removing snow, so it’s “walkable”, which it seems they did. Not sure residents are also responsible for black ice.

It so happens I do, bc we took a photos right before and I was with other people, so there were multiple witnesses.

You aren’t litigious but you took photos and the names of witnesses?

Come on, now.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have proof of where you fell?

This. Also, I thought people are responsible for removing snow, so it’s “walkable”, which it seems they did. Not sure residents are also responsible for black ice.

It so happens I do, bc we took a photos right before and I was with other people, so there were multiple witnesses.

You aren’t litigious but you took photos and the names of witnesses?

Come on, now.

You people are all terrible readers and paranoid. The pictures were just social and the ice isn’t in it. The house is though, and multiple witnesses who can speak to my having fallen right afterwards in front of that house.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have proof of where you fell?

This. Also, I thought people are responsible for removing snow, so it’s “walkable”, which it seems they did. Not sure residents are also responsible for black ice.

It so happens I do, bc we took a photos right before and I was with other people, so there were multiple witnesses.

You aren’t litigious but you took photos and the names of witnesses?

Come on, now.

You people are all terrible readers and paranoid. The pictures were just social and the ice isn’t in it. The house is though, and multiple witnesses who can speak to my having fallen right afterwards in front of that house.

The pictures prove nothing. Your problem is the condition of the sidewalk. And you can't prove that they didn't maintain it carefully. Maybe they can say you were a drunk idiot who didn't watch where they were going. Nobody else in your party managed to slip on this deadly ice, right? Just you?