No, the reporting is not great, you're right about that. In their defense there's not a lot of information. They only found the crash site a couple hours ago. But you do raise a good point. Was ATC not in contact with this pilot? How did he fly over a very crowded part of the country (I mean he basically flew the bottom half of the NE corridor), not land, and turn back around? It sounds like the Air Force attempted to intercept when he flew over DC the second time - because the first time he flew over Fredericksburg, but the second time he flew directly over DC, which is restricted. When did ATC lose contact with this plane? |
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People keep reporting on this and it feels...scuzzy to me? Like, big shocker, a rich businessman from Florida would be a right winger. Idk. Don't love their politics but it seems irrelevant and almost like people are treating their politics as part of the story. It's not. The plane had nothing to do with them being NRA members. |
+100 I wonder if all passengers were passed out or just the pilot. How does a plane fly 300 miles off course with no one noticing for so long!?!? |
They were unconscious and the plane was flying on autopilot? |
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This is wild:
[twitter] https://twitter.com/mikeyoung44/status/1665452593269571584?s=20[/twitter] The guy who owned the plane is an interesting character. Apparently the wife is in the leadership of the NRA, they are leaving their entire estate to the NRA. Wtf? This is going to be prime conspiracy fodder for the RWNJs. |
I think you owe somebody an apology. The PP you are attacking was correct at about 4 pm. |
Poor family. Truly tragic to have 2 children die before you in separate incidents. |
It sounds like rapid depressurization which means a copilot also would’ve been incapacitated. |
| They were all asphyxiated sounds like |
No. The (now defunct) concord could, contemporary fighter jets can - I think most if not all civilian and commercial aircraft can’t, but maybe I’m wrong. |
The first time is it traveling normally. It doesn’t fly over DC. The turn may have been to set up for approach. Then the incident, then autopilot in a straight line. The last turn is just it running out of fuel and descending. |
What causes that to happen? |
| Did this plane cause air traffic patterns to be diverted over DC? I was at the Nats game and noticed multiple planes pass directly overhead landing at National. I hadn’t seen that before, but maybe it’s normal? |
I don’t know, but they can’t change the landing patterns. There are only two runways. What you’re describing sounds like the normal approach from the south along the river. It changes depending on the weather as far as which way they are coming. If there a disruption there would be planes in a holding pattern or being diverted to other runways, but we wouldn’t notice it with regard to planes landing. |