Immigrants & DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are taking up space in our local shelters and the unhoused population has grown by 12%.

Think there’s a connection?

You mean unskilled, uneducated, illiterate illegal aliens from Central America?

I thought they all went to sanctuary city MoCo and CASA de Maryland for their welcome package, free housing and stuff. Send them there, not WDC.

Uhh Washington DC is a sanctuary city, my friend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the $150,000.00 pick up trucks. Plus the group homes

We live next door to one of these group homes and it’s pretty infuriating. It’s not up to code and the owner is renting it out without a rental license to 4 separate families. It used to be a single family home. They literally have 6 cars and two large work vans that decrease visibility along the street (safety issue when kids are playing outside).

And yes, the cars are late model, new and not cheap cars.

If it's not up to code, then why haven't you notified the relevant authorities responsible for enforcing code?

NP. Because code isn’t enforced when you do

Then document the lack of code enforcement and take it up the chain.

My neighbors tried this with the two illegally rented homes in our Silver Spring neighborhood. They are both owned by the same landlord. Code enforcement is incredibly over-worked and understaffed. It takes a while for anyone to even come out to the homes. And, when they finally did, it's quite difficult to prove who actually lives there. Also, the people are paying cash to the landlord, so no money trail to prove that it is actually a rental. It's crazy. The case is currently tied up in the courts.

And, honestly, sometimes in MoCo, code enforcement just looks the other way in these cases. They know it's not good PR to crack down on these homes for undocumented immigrants, so they just let them slide.

If it's not up to code, who lives there is irrelevant... code enforcement is supposed to take it up with the landlord. So again, I have trouble believing this.

Of course. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative must be false. Interesting way to look at the world, but clearly it works for you.

Get out of your bubble to see what things are like in other parts of the DC area. Go to Silver Spring, Wheaton, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Aspen Hill, Olney, etc. Take your pick. Find a house with multiple unmarked cargo vans or pick up trucks parked, or a SFH with 7 cars parked in the driveway/out front/on the grass. Look that address up on the Montgomery County real estate tax website to see who owns it and if it it being legally rented. Or ask a neighbor about the house and see what they have to say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the $150,000.00 pick up trucks. Plus the group homes

We live next door to one of these group homes and it’s pretty infuriating. It’s not up to code and the owner is renting it out without a rental license to 4 separate families. It used to be a single family home. They literally have 6 cars and two large work vans that decrease visibility along the street (safety issue when kids are playing outside).

And yes, the cars are late model, new and not cheap cars.

If it's not up to code, then why haven't you notified the relevant authorities responsible for enforcing code?

NP. Because code isn’t enforced when you do

Then document the lack of code enforcement and take it up the chain.

My neighbors tried this with the two illegally rented homes in our Silver Spring neighborhood. They are both owned by the same landlord. Code enforcement is incredibly over-worked and understaffed. It takes a while for anyone to even come out to the homes. And, when they finally did, it's quite difficult to prove who actually lives there. Also, the people are paying cash to the landlord, so no money trail to prove that it is actually a rental. It's crazy. The case is currently tied up in the courts.

And, honestly, sometimes in MoCo, code enforcement just looks the other way in these cases. They know it's not good PR to crack down on these homes for undocumented immigrants, so they just let them slide.

If it's not up to code, who lives there is irrelevant... code enforcement is supposed to take it up with the landlord. So again, I have trouble believing this.

Of course. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative must be false. Interesting way to look at the world, but clearly it works for you.

Get out of your bubble to see what things are like in other parts of the DC area. Go to Silver Spring, Wheaton, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Aspen Hill, Olney, etc. Take your pick. Find a house with multiple unmarked cargo vans or pick up trucks parked, or a SFH with 7 cars parked in the driveway/out front/on the grass. Look that address up on the Montgomery County real estate tax website to see who owns it and if it it being legally rented. Or ask a neighbor about the house and see what they have to say.

Reel your own fake narrative in. Nobody here ever said illegals weren't renting and sharing apartments. What we dispute is your claim that there's some kind of vast conspiracy, that "sanctuary city" somehow means that not one single law or regulation is ever followed, if it even tangentially touches on illegals, such as if some slumlord is renting out unsafe apartments that don't meet code to illegals. The right wing has built up this massive mythology and narrative around "sanctuary city" when in fact what it mostly just means is that the city won't do INS's job for them, that INS needs to do it themselves. For example, the "liberal city" police departments routinely arrest and their local prosecutors and courts convict and jail illegals who have committed crimes. But they don't ask or care whether they are citizens or not, because that's federal law and outside of their jurisdictions. If INS wants them, they have to wait their turn and scoop them up on their way out of the courthouse or on their way out of jail, because it's not the city's job to deal with immigration and naturalization status.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the $150,000.00 pick up trucks. Plus the group homes

We live next door to one of these group homes and it’s pretty infuriating. It’s not up to code and the owner is renting it out without a rental license to 4 separate families. It used to be a single family home. They literally have 6 cars and two large work vans that decrease visibility along the street (safety issue when kids are playing outside).

And yes, the cars are late model, new and not cheap cars.

If it's not up to code, then why haven't you notified the relevant authorities responsible for enforcing code?

NP. Because code isn’t enforced when you do

Then document the lack of code enforcement and take it up the chain.

My neighbors tried this with the two illegally rented homes in our Silver Spring neighborhood. They are both owned by the same landlord. Code enforcement is incredibly over-worked and understaffed. It takes a while for anyone to even come out to the homes. And, when they finally did, it's quite difficult to prove who actually lives there. Also, the people are paying cash to the landlord, so no money trail to prove that it is actually a rental. It's crazy. The case is currently tied up in the courts.

And, honestly, sometimes in MoCo, code enforcement just looks the other way in these cases. They know it's not good PR to crack down on these homes for undocumented immigrants, so they just let them slide.

If it's not up to code, who lives there is irrelevant... code enforcement is supposed to take it up with the landlord. So again, I have trouble believing this.

Of course. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative must be false. Interesting way to look at the world, but clearly it works for you.

Get out of your bubble to see what things are like in other parts of the DC area. Go to Silver Spring, Wheaton, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Aspen Hill, Olney, etc. Take your pick. Find a house with multiple unmarked cargo vans or pick up trucks parked, or a SFH with 7 cars parked in the driveway/out front/on the grass. Look that address up on the Montgomery County real estate tax website to see who owns it and if it it being legally rented. Or ask a neighbor about the house and see what they have to say.

Reel your own fake narrative in. Nobody here ever said illegals weren't renting and sharing apartments. What we dispute is your claim that there's some kind of vast conspiracy, that "sanctuary city" somehow means that not one single law or regulation is ever followed, if it even tangentially touches on illegals, such as if some slumlord is renting out unsafe apartments that don't meet code to illegals. The right wing has built up this massive mythology and narrative around "sanctuary city" when in fact what it mostly just means is that the city won't do INS's job for them, that INS needs to do it themselves. For example, the "liberal city" police departments routinely arrest and their local prosecutors and courts convict and jail illegals who have committed crimes. But they don't ask or care whether they are citizens or not, because that's federal law and outside of their jurisdictions. If INS wants them, they have to wait their turn and scoop them up on their way out of the courthouse or on their way out of jail, because it's not the city's job to deal with immigration and naturalization status.

Actually, that's almost exactly what's happening in Montgomery County. I've lived here almost 20 years, and there is now basically an entire underground economy in this county where people feel they don't need to follow any laws. The number of uninsured drivers (against the law) has gone up tremendously. In my neighborhood, there have been two fires where the homes were over-occupied and not up to code (code enforcement is lax). I clean up trash with a group in our area, and we see so much waste that is illegally dumped (tires, especially). It's clear that being a sanctuary county comes with an attitude of looking the other way when people are breaking the law. By definition, we're welcoming people who are breaking US immigration laws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the $150,000.00 pick up trucks. Plus the group homes

We live next door to one of these group homes and it’s pretty infuriating. It’s not up to code and the owner is renting it out without a rental license to 4 separate families. It used to be a single family home. They literally have 6 cars and two large work vans that decrease visibility along the street (safety issue when kids are playing outside).

And yes, the cars are late model, new and not cheap cars.

If it's not up to code, then why haven't you notified the relevant authorities responsible for enforcing code?

NP. Because code isn’t enforced when you do

Then document the lack of code enforcement and take it up the chain.

My neighbors tried this with the two illegally rented homes in our Silver Spring neighborhood. They are both owned by the same landlord. Code enforcement is incredibly over-worked and understaffed. It takes a while for anyone to even come out to the homes. And, when they finally did, it's quite difficult to prove who actually lives there. Also, the people are paying cash to the landlord, so no money trail to prove that it is actually a rental. It's crazy. The case is currently tied up in the courts.

And, honestly, sometimes in MoCo, code enforcement just looks the other way in these cases. They know it's not good PR to crack down on these homes for undocumented immigrants, so they just let them slide.

If it's not up to code, who lives there is irrelevant... code enforcement is supposed to take it up with the landlord. So again, I have trouble believing this.

Of course. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative must be false. Interesting way to look at the world, but clearly it works for you.

Get out of your bubble to see what things are like in other parts of the DC area. Go to Silver Spring, Wheaton, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Aspen Hill, Olney, etc. Take your pick. Find a house with multiple unmarked cargo vans or pick up trucks parked, or a SFH with 7 cars parked in the driveway/out front/on the grass. Look that address up on the Montgomery County real estate tax website to see who owns it and if it it being legally rented. Or ask a neighbor about the house and see what they have to say.

Reel your own fake narrative in. Nobody here ever said illegals weren't renting and sharing apartments. What we dispute is your claim that there's some kind of vast conspiracy, that "sanctuary city" somehow means that not one single law or regulation is ever followed, if it even tangentially touches on illegals, such as if some slumlord is renting out unsafe apartments that don't meet code to illegals. The right wing has built up this massive mythology and narrative around "sanctuary city" when in fact what it mostly just means is that the city won't do INS's job for them, that INS needs to do it themselves. For example, the "liberal city" police departments routinely arrest and their local prosecutors and courts convict and jail illegals who have committed crimes. But they don't ask or care whether they are citizens or not, because that's federal law and outside of their jurisdictions. If INS wants them, they have to wait their turn and scoop them up on their way out of the courthouse or on their way out of jail, because it's not the city's job to deal with immigration and naturalization status.

Actually, that's almost exactly what's happening in Montgomery County. I've lived here almost 20 years, and there is now basically an entire underground economy in this county where people feel they don't need to follow any laws. The number of uninsured drivers (against the law) has gone up tremendously. In my neighborhood, there have been two fires where the homes were over-occupied and not up to code (code enforcement is lax). I clean up trash with a group in our area, and we see so much waste that is illegally dumped (tires, especially). It's clear that being a sanctuary county comes with an attitude of looking the other way when people are breaking the law. By definition, we're welcoming people who are breaking US immigration laws.

Cool. No pesky regulation. That's exactly what we Republicans have been calling for for the last 25 years. Who cares about stupid tree huggers whining about dumped tires? We should shut down the EPA. And the government should keep its nose out of my slumlording business and leave us small businesses alone. Anything else would be tyranny!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the $150,000.00 pick up trucks. Plus the group homes

We live next door to one of these group homes and it’s pretty infuriating. It’s not up to code and the owner is renting it out without a rental license to 4 separate families. It used to be a single family home. They literally have 6 cars and two large work vans that decrease visibility along the street (safety issue when kids are playing outside).

And yes, the cars are late model, new and not cheap cars.

If it's not up to code, then why haven't you notified the relevant authorities responsible for enforcing code?

NP. Because code isn’t enforced when you do

Then document the lack of code enforcement and take it up the chain.

My neighbors tried this with the two illegally rented homes in our Silver Spring neighborhood. They are both owned by the same landlord. Code enforcement is incredibly over-worked and understaffed. It takes a while for anyone to even come out to the homes. And, when they finally did, it's quite difficult to prove who actually lives there. Also, the people are paying cash to the landlord, so no money trail to prove that it is actually a rental. It's crazy. The case is currently tied up in the courts.

And, honestly, sometimes in MoCo, code enforcement just looks the other way in these cases. They know it's not good PR to crack down on these homes for undocumented immigrants, so they just let them slide.

If it's not up to code, who lives there is irrelevant... code enforcement is supposed to take it up with the landlord. So again, I have trouble believing this.

Of course. Anything that doesn't fit your narrative must be false. Interesting way to look at the world, but clearly it works for you.

Get out of your bubble to see what things are like in other parts of the DC area. Go to Silver Spring, Wheaton, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Aspen Hill, Olney, etc. Take your pick. Find a house with multiple unmarked cargo vans or pick up trucks parked, or a SFH with 7 cars parked in the driveway/out front/on the grass. Look that address up on the Montgomery County real estate tax website to see who owns it and if it it being legally rented. Or ask a neighbor about the house and see what they have to say.

Reel your own fake narrative in. Nobody here ever said illegals weren't renting and sharing apartments. What we dispute is your claim that there's some kind of vast conspiracy, that "sanctuary city" somehow means that not one single law or regulation is ever followed, if it even tangentially touches on illegals, such as if some slumlord is renting out unsafe apartments that don't meet code to illegals. The right wing has built up this massive mythology and narrative around "sanctuary city" when in fact what it mostly just means is that the city won't do INS's job for them, that INS needs to do it themselves. For example, the "liberal city" police departments routinely arrest and their local prosecutors and courts convict and jail illegals who have committed crimes. But they don't ask or care whether they are citizens or not, because that's federal law and outside of their jurisdictions. If INS wants them, they have to wait their turn and scoop them up on their way out of the courthouse or on their way out of jail, because it's not the city's job to deal with immigration and naturalization status.

Actually, that's almost exactly what's happening in Montgomery County. I've lived here almost 20 years, and there is now basically an entire underground economy in this county where people feel they don't need to follow any laws. The number of uninsured drivers (against the law) has gone up tremendously. In my neighborhood, there have been two fires where the homes were over-occupied and not up to code (code enforcement is lax). I clean up trash with a group in our area, and we see so much waste that is illegally dumped (tires, especially). It's clear that being a sanctuary county comes with an attitude of looking the other way when people are breaking the law. By definition, we're welcoming people who are breaking US immigration laws.

Cool. No pesky regulation. That's exactly what we Republicans have been calling for for the last 25 years. Who cares about stupid tree huggers whining about dumped tires? We should shut down the EPA. And the government should keep its nose out of my slumlording business and leave us small businesses alone. Anything else would be tyranny!

We should exercise 2A solutions against any government tyrant who questions our tire dumping!!! /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are taking up space in our local shelters and the unhoused population has grown by 12%.

Think there’s a connection?

“ Immigration, along with crime, has been hyped by right-wing media for some time. Prior to the last few elections, convoys of immigrants (real or imagined) have received breathless around-the-clock media coverage, only to disappear as soon as the election has ended. The constant focus on immigration has caused posters like the original poster of this thread to decide that immigration is the most important issue to them. The immediate cause of the renewed interest in this thread over the weekend was the expiration of "Title 42", a Trump-era rule that restricted immigration in order to control the spread of COVID. Right-wing politicians and media sources broke out in complete hysteria warning of hordes of immigrants sweeping across our southern border. When real crowds failed to materialize, some right wing Twitter users resorted to passing years-old photos off as proof of new groups at the border. When Title 42 did expire, nothing dramatic happened. The Biden Administration had prepared with a host of new regulations that went into immediate effect. As a result, the Border Patrol experienced a 50% drop in encounters with undocumented immigrants. The disappointment among right-wingers was palpable. One contradiction in the right-wing narrative about immigration that is repeatedly pointed out in this thread is the use of arrest statistics to demonstrate that the "border is open". If vast numbers of migrants are being arrested, detained, or deported, the border is hardly open. The topic of immigration is a constant one in the political forum. While the original poster may have decided it is the single issue that will influence his vote, there are at least a couple of posters who are so obsessed with the issue that it seems to dominate their lives. They post almost canned responses in any thread even slightly related to immigration. In a thread like this, their posts are almost constant. As such, the ususal refrain that Democrats are promoting immigration in order to lower wages and create new Democratic voters are repeated over and over again throughout the thread.”

The above quote is from our host Jeff Steel’s from page commentary from yesterday on immigration. Just thought I’d give him a hand since it is on topic for this thread.

[Anonymous]

Grow up Pp.

Unlike you non of us are reading or obsessed with or getting our thoughts from mass media or social media.

We’re getting them every damn day with our own experiences. The schools and teachers overwhelmed with illiterate illegal parents and children. Dumbing down the curriculum further.
Long waits at hospitals while they deal with people with no name, age, English, or money.
Terrible drivers smashing cars all the time then playing dumb and illiterate- If they even stick around.
Higher and higher property and income tax rates, insurance premiums, costs of living. Meanwhile $billions a year of black market job money going to Central American by illegal immigrant families’s kids on multiple forms of welfare (don’t go above $42k income, lose ur benies!).
Crime up. Lack of road rules up. Lack of community up- I’ve met Hispanic immigrants that seem to take great pride in how they can’t form a simple sentence correctly in English. Why would anyone hire that?
Poor quality of service - landscaping, construction, house cleaning, and gawd forbid if you try a nanny who’s faking her English skills. Sinks put in wrong. Roof needed contractor back, lazy cleaning to get to next “job”, over cutting trees at the wrong time of year. Anything for a buck.

It’s all gone downhill for 25 years but now acceleratingly so.

[Anonymous]

2,000,000 illegal border crossings a year, and that only includes those caught and not those who fly in and stay indefinitely, beyond the 90 days tourist status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grow up Pp.

Unlike you non of us are reading or obsessed with or getting our thoughts from mass media or social media.

We’re getting them every damn day with our own experiences. The schools and teachers overwhelmed with illiterate illegal parents and children. Dumbing down the curriculum further.
Long waits at hospitals while they deal with people with no name, age, English, or money.
Terrible drivers smashing cars all the time then playing dumb and illiterate- If they even stick around.
Higher and higher property and income tax rates, insurance premiums, costs of living. Meanwhile $billions a year of black market job money going to Central American by illegal immigrant families’s kids on multiple forms of welfare (don’t go above $42k income, lose ur benies!).
Crime up. Lack of road rules up. Lack of community up- I’ve met Hispanic immigrants that seem to take great pride in how they can’t form a simple sentence correctly in English. Why would anyone hire that?
Poor quality of service - landscaping, construction, house cleaning, and gawd forbid if you try a nanny who’s faking her English skills. Sinks put in wrong. Roof needed contractor back, lazy cleaning to get to next “job”, over cutting trees at the wrong time of year. Anything for a buck.

It’s all gone downhill for 25 years but now acceleratingly so.

THIS

Not all of us live in wealthy DC enclaves that are immune to the negative impact of unlimited illegals immigration. Some of us actually live in communities where we witness the negative impact on a daily basis. It has affected our lives, our communities and our kids’ schools. We see it every day.

No ridiculous talking points or bogus stats are going to negate what we witness in our own neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

So glad I now live in an area where we don’t have to deal with this influx. Good luck, MOCO and DC. You are gonna need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grow up Pp.

Unlike you non of us are reading or obsessed with or getting our thoughts from mass media or social media.

We’re getting them every damn day with our own experiences. The schools and teachers overwhelmed with illiterate illegal parents and children. Dumbing down the curriculum further.
Long waits at hospitals while they deal with people with no name, age, English, or money.
Terrible drivers smashing cars all the time then playing dumb and illiterate- If they even stick around.
Higher and higher property and income tax rates, insurance premiums, costs of living. Meanwhile $billions a year of black market job money going to Central American by illegal immigrant families’s kids on multiple forms of welfare (don’t go above $42k income, lose ur benies!).
Crime up. Lack of road rules up. Lack of community up- I’ve met Hispanic immigrants that seem to take great pride in how they can’t form a simple sentence correctly in English. Why would anyone hire that?
Poor quality of service - landscaping, construction, house cleaning, and gawd forbid if you try a nanny who’s faking her English skills. Sinks put in wrong. Roof needed contractor back, lazy cleaning to get to next “job”, over cutting trees at the wrong time of year. Anything for a buck.

It’s all gone downhill for 25 years but now acceleratingly so.

THIS

Not all of us live in wealthy DC enclaves that are immune to the negative impact of unlimited illegals immigration. Some of us actually live in communities where we witness the negative impact on a daily basis. It has affected our lives, our communities and our kids’ schools. We see it every day.

No ridiculous talking points or bogus stats are going to negate what we witness in our own neighborhoods.

Exactly! +1 for both posts!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grow up Pp.

Unlike you non of us are reading or obsessed with or getting our thoughts from mass media or social media.

We’re getting them every damn day with our own experiences. The schools and teachers overwhelmed with illiterate illegal parents and children. Dumbing down the curriculum further.
Long waits at hospitals while they deal with people with no name, age, English, or money.
Terrible drivers smashing cars all the time then playing dumb and illiterate- If they even stick around.
Higher and higher property and income tax rates, insurance premiums, costs of living. Meanwhile $billions a year of black market job money going to Central American by illegal immigrant families’s kids on multiple forms of welfare (don’t go above $42k income, lose ur benies!).
Crime up. Lack of road rules up. Lack of community up- I’ve met Hispanic immigrants that seem to take great pride in how they can’t form a simple sentence correctly in English. Why would anyone hire that?
Poor quality of service - landscaping, construction, house cleaning, and gawd forbid if you try a nanny who’s faking her English skills. Sinks put in wrong. Roof needed contractor back, lazy cleaning to get to next “job”, over cutting trees at the wrong time of year. Anything for a buck.

It’s all gone downhill for 25 years but now acceleratingly so.

THIS

Not all of us live in wealthy DC enclaves that are immune to the negative impact of unlimited illegals immigration. Some of us actually live in communities where we witness the negative impact on a daily basis. It has affected our lives, our communities and our kids’ schools. We see it every day.

No ridiculous talking points or bogus stats are going to negate what we witness in our own neighborhoods.

Then why is my family perfectly fine? I live in east county SS and my kid is doing just fine. Nobody has crashes into my car. I have no issues with my kids school. All of the immigrant labor in my home is done well. Maybe it’s a YOU thing? Why not move to Alabama where you would be much happier? Nobody is stopping you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are taking up space in our local shelters and the unhoused population has grown by 12%.

Think there’s a connection?

“ Immigration, along with crime, has been hyped by right-wing media for some time. Prior to the last few elections, convoys of immigrants (real or imagined) have received breathless around-the-clock media coverage, only to disappear as soon as the election has ended. The constant focus on immigration has caused posters like the original poster of this thread to decide that immigration is the most important issue to them. The immediate cause of the renewed interest in this thread over the weekend was the expiration of "Title 42", a Trump-era rule that restricted immigration in order to control the spread of COVID. Right-wing politicians and media sources broke out in complete hysteria warning of hordes of immigrants sweeping across our southern border. When real crowds failed to materialize, some right wing Twitter users resorted to passing years-old photos off as proof of new groups at the border. When Title 42 did expire, nothing dramatic happened. The Biden Administration had prepared with a host of new regulations that went into immediate effect. As a result, the Border Patrol experienced a 50% drop in encounters with undocumented immigrants. The disappointment among right-wingers was palpable. One contradiction in the right-wing narrative about immigration that is repeatedly pointed out in this thread is the use of arrest statistics to demonstrate that the "border is open". If vast numbers of migrants are being arrested, detained, or deported, the border is hardly open. The topic of immigration is a constant one in the political forum. While the original poster may have decided it is the single issue that will influence his vote, there are at least a couple of posters who are so obsessed with the issue that it seems to dominate their lives. They post almost canned responses in any thread even slightly related to immigration. In a thread like this, their posts are almost constant. As such, the ususal refrain that Democrats are promoting immigration in order to lower wages and create new Democratic voters are repeated over and over again throughout the thread.”

The above quote is from our host Jeff Steel’s from page commentary from yesterday on immigration. Just thought I’d give him a hand since it is on topic for this thread.

Just because you can copy/ paste " right wing" multiple times doesn't make your post anything other than idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Immigrants are taking up space in our local shelters and the unhoused population has grown by 12%.

Think there’s a connection?

“ Immigration, along with crime, has been hyped by right-wing media for some time. Prior to the last few elections, convoys of immigrants (real or imagined) have received breathless around-the-clock media coverage, only to disappear as soon as the election has ended. The constant focus on immigration has caused posters like the original poster of this thread to decide that immigration is the most important issue to them. The immediate cause of the renewed interest in this thread over the weekend was the expiration of "Title 42", a Trump-era rule that restricted immigration in order to control the spread of COVID. Right-wing politicians and media sources broke out in complete hysteria warning of hordes of immigrants sweeping across our southern border. When real crowds failed to materialize, some right wing Twitter users resorted to passing years-old photos off as proof of new groups at the border. When Title 42 did expire, nothing dramatic happened. The Biden Administration had prepared with a host of new regulations that went into immediate effect. As a result, the Border Patrol experienced a 50% drop in encounters with undocumented immigrants. The disappointment among right-wingers was palpable. One contradiction in the right-wing narrative about immigration that is repeatedly pointed out in this thread is the use of arrest statistics to demonstrate that the "border is open". If vast numbers of migrants are being arrested, detained, or deported, the border is hardly open. The topic of immigration is a constant one in the political forum. While the original poster may have decided it is the single issue that will influence his vote, there are at least a couple of posters who are so obsessed with the issue that it seems to dominate their lives. They post almost canned responses in any thread even slightly related to immigration. In a thread like this, their posts are almost constant. As such, the ususal refrain that Democrats are promoting immigration in order to lower wages and create new Democratic voters are repeated over and over again throughout the thread.”

The above quote is from our host Jeff Steel’s from page commentary from yesterday on immigration. Just thought I’d give him a hand since it is on topic for this thread.

Just because you can copy/ paste " right wing" multiple times doesn't make your post anything other than idiotic.

DP
I found that post well thought out and well reasoned in contrast to the many RWNJ echo chamber posts without any data or citations decrying all of the problems with immigrants.