Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??

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Lie flat - it’s a beautiful movement

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Yes. I am working today on Sunday J1 as fell behind as had board meetings J2 last week.

I quit J3 recently. I need a new J3

Just one job is retirement for most

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Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that 80 percent of remote workers have second jobs during the workday? I highly doubt that. If anything, I think those workers are the exception and not the majority.

I know more remote workers with multiple jobs than I do without.

These are all positions where they had their own LLCs for consulting work on the side pre-pandemic. They worked after work and on weekends. However, now that they WFH and there's no one to overhear who they may be speaking with on the phone or notice the fact that they have 2 laptops on their desk, they are free to work their main job & consulting job at the same time.

lol WHY do these people all decide to get a second well-paying job instead of just hanging out with their cat more? that's what i do if i have some downtime. like i make enough money in my first job. why would i want a second, even if i had the time?

My brother is a cloud architect. He has 2 jobs and also does some other development on the side. I think he said he made $165k at job 1 and around $180k at job 2 plus another $20k doing consulting projects. His wife is also a developer and does something with AWS for small businesses in this area on the side. Their goal is to bank as much money as possible and semi-retire in their 40s. They plan on renting out their house and buying an RV to travel. They'll work remotely part-time to keep up their skills, he said. They tested this out last summer when they rented an RV for 3 months. They tested out if they could stand being in that type of space for a long period of time and to make sure it was feasible for working conditions.

I know people who do this but they don’t end up retiring. Or at least, they have not yet. 40 comes faster than people expect. I do wonder how many people manage it. Spending my whole life planning for retirement doesn’t appeal to me (I plan, but in the typical manner of putting away some money in my retirement account), but it’s a dream for some people and they enjoy the planning and saving.

The money just piles up. I was doing it as an experiment. Retirement is having only one job for overemployed people

Well, that’s some spin.

If you spend your life for 20 years talking about retiring early, the implication is obvious. If you’re really just going to one job because that’s “retiring” you failed at your goal and now call it an experiment. For whatever reason, even if you have money. You didn’t stop working.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen Z is averse to hard work, in general.

‘Hard work’ or not allowing themselves to be exploited for sub par wages?

Hard work.

I posted above about people refusing or questioning promotions and to some extent I agree. Work has become more transactional to this generation and it's a bitter pill to swallow for all of us who were willing to lay down on train tracks for our employers, but they are not wrong. I don't want talented people to hamper their own growth though. How do we solve for that?

PAY THEM MORE!!

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Don't you guys have Gen Z kids? If you do, do you think your own Gen Z kids are lazy and don't about career advancement? Or are your Gen Z different and you are referring to mine?

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This multiple job thing is so interesting- I had no idea. I have an in person job, super busy… Gen X.

Gen Z definitely happy with less stuff compared to Gen X. Also Gen Z taught stuff in school we Gen Xers never learned. Like to have/enforce boundaries.

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A lot of them had a parent or family member severely impacted by 2008 and know that it all can be taken away an instant. People are stuck on tying their identity to their job or making their career the focal point of their life. They don't want to be in that position.

The other trend I notice, which I think is great, they don't care about a job title and mostly see them as meaningless.